Modes 5 minutes in Open...

Yep, part of the great American experiment here, too, business owner and entrepreneur who puts Randian principles to use on a daily basis. I was doing this decades before I even really discovered who she was. And I'm here to tell you that our government is probably the greatest impediment to business expansion there is, and that anyone who thinks "competition is bad for business" simply does not know the first thing about the subject. Competition drives innovation and stimulates competitive pricing, and gives consumers choices.

Which is not to say Ayn's novels were meant to be taken as economic blueprints, they were just novels after all, but rather that her core principles were sound, her philosophy on the nature of evil was remarkably accurate, and her view on the relationship between brains and brawn was almost deadly in it's accuracy. Anybody can read her works and come away with a firm understanding of the parasitical relationship between the makers and those who simply consume at the expense of those who produce, regardless of how unlikely the fictional premise was to her distopian future magnum opus.

Can't give you any more +rep.

Whodauthunk my greatest frenemy was, uh, my greatest frenemy ;)
 
First off, I normally play in Mobius. I also play as a trader.

Lately I have been hauling medicines to outbreak systems in The Empire. There was not one around and it has been weeks since I have seen any Human Pilots; as such I decided to make a few runs in Open. I was not entirely surprised at the result. . . there was no one in open either.
 
Yep, part of the great American experiment here, too, business owner and entrepreneur who puts Randian principles to use on a daily basis. I was doing this decades before I even really discovered who she was. And I'm here to tell you that our government is probably the greatest impediment to business expansion there is, and that anyone who thinks "competition is bad for business" simply does not know the first thing about the subject. Competition drives innovation and stimulates competitive pricing, and gives consumers choices.

Which is not to say Ayn's novels were meant to be taken as economic blueprints, they were just novels after all, but rather that her core principles were sound, her philosophy on the nature of evil was remarkably accurate, and her view on the relationship between brains and brawn was almost deadly in it's accuracy. Anybody can read her works and come away with a firm understanding of the parasitical relationship between the makers and those who simply consume at the expense of those who produce, regardless of how unlikely the fictional premise was to her distopian future magnum opus.

Oh yes, competition does all of those things. Competition is great for consumers. Know what else it does? It cuts into your profits, and that's how I know you spend your time avoiding it as much as possible. If it were good for business you'd intentionally throw yourself into the most competitive markets. But, you don't. I know you don't, because that's bad business.

So, no, competition isn't good for business, and so do you know what that makes all these capitalists who stand on their stumps preaching the virtues of competition? Hypocrites, all of them. Capitalism is hypocrisy in action.
 
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Oh yes, competition does all of those things. Competition is great for consumers. Know what else it does? It cuts into your profits, and that's how I know you spend your time avoiding it as much as possible. If it were good for business you'd intentionally throw yourself into the most competitive markets. But, you don't. I know you don't, because that's bad business.

So, no, competition isn't good for business, and so do you know what that makes all these capitalists who stand on their stumps preaching the virtues of competition? Hypocrites, all of them. Capitalism is hypocrisy in action.

I'll be honest, Warm; that made no sense to me.

I could try to decode it, but we've probably gone as far afield as we ought to. I'm more than happy to admit that you're wrong and just let it go and start talking about the evils of Open as was the OPs original intent. Okay?
 
I'll be honest, Warm; that made no sense to me.

Those who get rich in business, didn't do it in competitive markets as there is little profit there.
They got their money by being the sole supplier of something (or one a few). Monopolies = more money.

So if a rich business person says "competition is good for business", they are being a hypocrite / liar.
 
“People of the same trade seldom meet together, even for merriment and diversion, but the conversation ends in a conspiracy against the public, or in some contrivance to raise prices.”
- Adam Smith, 'The Wealth of Nations'

"I found that competition was supposed to be a menace and that a good manager circumvented his competitors by getting a monopoly by artificial means."
-Henry Ford

“Never compete with someone who has nothing to lose.”
-Baltasar Gracián
 
I spent 30 minutes in open last night, 30 whole minutes! Just as you might expect, there it was, a big fat annaconda parked right in the middle of the ruins. Wasn't even tempted to attack him while he was out SRVing around. Said hello, flashed my lights and moved on to the nearby ruins. And... an Asp, parked in the middle of those ruins. I didn't attack him either, but I did take a nice picture of our ships parked side by side. He has a paint job, I don't. One planet, three sets of ancient ruins, three cmdrs, no shots fired. Sometimes I feel sad for players on PC.
 
Those who get rich in business, didn't do it in competitive markets as there is little profit there.
They got their money by being the sole supplier of something (or one a few). Monopolies = more money.

So if a rich business person says "competition is good for business", they are being a hypocrite / liar.

That's pretty funny, given the fact that I started my current business in an extremely crowded market place and became successful by offering my customers more choices, superior quality, and impeccable customer service.

You and a few others are missing the point about what competition is, and who it benefits. I suspect this is because your actual experience with running a business is limited to studying it at a university (at best).
 
That's pretty funny, given the fact that I started my current business in an extremely crowded market place and became successful by offering my customers more choices, superior quality, and impeccable customer service.

You and a few others are missing the point about what competition is, and who it benefits. I suspect this is because your actual experience with running a business is limited to studying it at a university (at best).

OK! All/both of you, whoever... your hyperbole-infused partisan-driven anecdotal-ridden agendas about free market competition are flawed. None of you are 'correct' and all of this, quite simply, belongs elsewhere! Take your guilty pleasures pillow talk somewhere else! More talk about space ships!
 
OK! All/both of you, whoever... your hyperbole-infused partisan-driven anecdotal-ridden agendas about free market competition are flawed. None of you are 'correct' and all of this, quite simply, belongs elsewhere! Take your guilty pleasures pillow talk somewhere else! More talk about space ships!

Thank you! Finally, someone to break the cycle:)
 
OK! All/both of you, whoever... your hyperbole-infused partisan-driven anecdotal-ridden agendas about free market competition are flawed. None of you are 'correct' and all of this, quite simply, belongs elsewhere! Take your guilty pleasures pillow talk somewhere else! More talk about space ships!

I'd love to talk spaceships, but I've spent more than 5 minutes in open - so I'm over qualified for this thread :p

I'd better go make my "97 minutes in open and got bored" thread :D
 
Some days everyone says hello and some days a pimple pirate tries shooting you in the mail slot:O
Just adds to the full range of possibilities you just never expect. Open all the way[yesnod]
 
OK! All/both of you, whoever... your hyperbole-infused partisan-driven anecdotal-ridden agendas about free market competition are flawed. None of you are 'correct' and all of this, quite simply, belongs elsewhere! Take your guilty pleasures pillow talk somewhere else! More talk about space ships!

Agreed.
What ship should I get to increase my profit and give me an advantage when I compete with other players in the marketplace?
 
Some days everyone says hello and some days a pimple pirate tries shooting you in the mail slot:O
Just adds to the full range of possibilities you just never expect. Open all the way[yesnod]

I've actually never had a bad encounter in open. Always friendly and positive. The worst that ever happened is they just run away. Go figure...
 
I've actually never had a bad encounter in open. Always friendly and positive. The worst that ever happened is they just run away. Go figure...

In my experience, your experience in Open depends heavily on when you play.

If you play during your local prime time or on weekends, the odds of encountering the type of player who needs PvE players to be their content, but is unwilling to return the favor, increases dramatically. Prime time during the weekend is a double dose of those types of players. Depending upon your tolerance level for that kind of crap "content," those types of players can completely overwhelm any good vibes you may get from Open.
 
For the first time in over two years I play in open with my main account...

Very first supercruise. Interdicted by a ferdelance whom shall remain unnamed.
I had no cargo, was in a lightly fitted asp.
No chat, no RP just instant death with beams and PA.
went from 4km to about 500m distance less than 10 seconds, so super engineered.

luckly less than 1m rebuy.

5 minutes.

Real Nice.

Welcome back to Mobius - there are 1000s of cmdrs that like to avoid the silliness of Open.
Open = PvP Only - everyone accept the PvP'ers and FDEv know that.
 
Welcome back to Mobius - there are 1000s of cmdrs that like to avoid the silliness of Open.
Open = PvP Only - everyone accept the PvP'ers and FDEv know that.

There really should be a warning when people join Open mode.
Something you have to click "I Accept" on every time you try to join Open mode.
Just to make it really clear. Open = Possibly be shot at and killed for no reason.
 
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