Triple Elite, Admiral, King, Multi-billionaire ... all artificially min/maxed. Am I the only one?

My primary account (the eponymous Cmdr Truesilver) is:

1. Elite (Combat)
2. Elite (Trade)
3. Elite (Exploration)
4. Admiral
5. King
6. Multi-billionaire

However ...

... as I min/maxed each and every one of the above, not cheating or using exploits as such, but eventually 'achieving' each one (after in some, though not all, cases a traditional legit start) in the most artificial, cheap and contrived time-efficient fashion (I have never left the bubble except for my Palin 5k Ly, for example) ... I haven't put myself in the Triple Elite Hall of Fame, nor shall I.

I'm not really sure whether this thread is intended as a confession or a boast. I think in truth it's neither. What intrigues me is more the question once posed by the late Kurt Cobain:

"Am I the only one?"

Of course I know that there will be many Cmdrs out there who have achieved all of the above in the most traditional fashion and I hope and expect that they enjoyed their long journey.

But about the short journeys ...

... any other straight-A's min/maxers out there?
 
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I guess there are many. Some Commanders just don't need to let everyone know how great they are ;)
(tongue in cheek)

Honestly. I somewhere read that only 10% of the players are registered to this forum and only 10% do actually post something. And I guess only very few of these feel the urge to publicly announce their achievements. Being proud of what one achieved is of course perfectly ok. Some do just quietly enjoy the game.

o7
 
Not really, but sort of.

I deliberately didn't grind anything... except for the stuff I did.

I farmed the living poop out of Fehu to get my Cutter in a (long) weekend - just to prove it could be done.
I deliberately didn't grind anything to get Fed' rank and got my Corvette with 2 years of normal gameplay... and then it irritated me that I wasn't "finished" so I went from one famine system to the next and spammed donation missions just to get the rank.

When I first started playing ED I was kind of "behind" my mates so I spammed RES's to gain combat rank.
I reached "Deadly" despite barely having any credits or ships.
When I first started playing "properly", I realised I'd screwed the game up for myself by artificially elevating my combat rank so I reset my save and started again.
Since then, I haven't done anything to inflate my combat rank.
If anything, I try to avoid increasing it unless I have to.

As for trade and exploration, I just go and do the stuff I enjoy and the rank increases at it's own rate.
 
I guess there are many.

i'd say it's a pretty safe bet to say, no you're not and not be a long chalk!

Ha ha - just in case it wasn't clear, I've edited the OP to make it plain that I'm not asking whether there are other players who have achieved the six items in the OP as Braben intended. I'm sure there will be many and I hope and expect that they enjoyed it.

I'm wondering how many (if any) others there are who achieved every single one of the six artificially. I imagine that there may be many more fellow min/maxers in the Trade than Exploration departments, for example.

Or, picking up on Stealthie's post above, did you perhaps min/max something to, or near to, completion but not everything ... and why?
 
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My only elite rank right now is Exploration, but it was indeed gained from sightseeing missions. I plan to obtain the other two as efficiently as possible, but will go on another proper expedition past the core to truly "earn" my explorer elite before then. My naval ranks were gained via efficient grinding as well. Half of my money came from my Imperial rank via surface scans.

Perhaps that is artificial enough? :3
 
Or, picking up on Stealthie's post above, did you perhaps min/max something to, or near to, completion but not everything ... and why?

I'm sitting on the verge of combat Elite - waiting for a true test of skill to obtain a hybrid Elite: Deadly rank instead.
 
define "artificial"... For each rank, what are some of the things you employed? I took advantage of Quince a while ago, but that was in my very early commander days when I just saw it as a nice money making scenario, I didn't really see it as artificial, or exploit or anything. In fact I soon got bored of it and moved on to other things.
 
define "artificial"... For each rank, what are some of the things you employed?

Well, for the combat rank, I went from Deadly to Elite by...

++ MOBILE USERS LOOK AWAY NOW ++
++ COMBAT RANK SPOILER INCOMING ++

...going to Lave, dropping into the 'Civilian Broadcast' permanent feature, and blowing up the Elite-ranked Radio Sidewinder with plasma slug rail guns (hit hard, 128T fuel tank, infinite ammo), then menu-quitting on the cops, logging back in and repeating several hundred times.

I mean, I did love that the Developers thoughtfully provided a wide variety of scripted humorous comments from said victim during this escapade to keep me entertained, but that's pretty artificial, right? And yet, of course, I doubt anyone can propose anything faster. A true min/max.

Note: Cmdrs considering emulating the method in the spoiler above would be well-advised to do so before enhanced 3.0 C&P kicks in, as the system is not an anarchy. It also works very well for SLF rank but be aware that if both you and the NPC are levelling up, combat rank gain will be shared.
 
My primary account (the eponymous Cmdr Truesilver) is:

1. Elite (Combat)
2. Elite (Trade)
3. Elite (Exploration)
4. Admiral
5. King
6. Multi-billionaire

1. Elite (Combat) NO
2. Elite (Trade) Yes
3. Elite (Exploration) No
4. Admiral No
5. King No
6. Multi-billionaire No

But i have been to Sag A
 
I'm wondering how many (if any) others there are who achieved every single one of the six artificially. I imagine that there may be many more fellow min/maxers in the Trade than Exploration departments, for example.

You are describing pretty typical Achiever behaviour. Set a personal goal, then go and achieve the goal. Each of the ones you list are deliberately big enough goals for it to be unlikely for any player to easily achieve them just bumbling around not following any how-to guides or other meta.

If the target of Exploration Elite (for example) were no a thing I can imagine many players would never consider trying it. If it were possible to be Elite at Mining say, I'm sure there would be players who enjoy mining that would push that bit harder to reach the notional and fairly arbitrary target.

They are personal goals. I've got much the same list of achievements as listed in the OP (I'm not King, but I have a Cutter) and I know what it took me to achieve them. They mean something to me, I don't expect them to mean the same thing to anyone else.
 
Haven't maxed a single rank or title. Had fun though. Could be considered a max rank?

The maxest rank of all! And actually my motivation as well, just in a different way. Let me explain...

You are describing pretty typical Achiever behaviour. Set a personal goal, then go and achieve the goal.

Totally understand what you mean, but for me to feel the 'achievements' in the OP as personally satisfying, I'd have to have done them 100% traditionally legit. It's the kind of person I am. I didn't, so don't derive satisfaction from them.

So, I stopped feeling a sense of achievement credits-wise at 700 million, because thereafter the min-maxing crept in (up to that point I was completely 1984, old school) and for combat rank the same would apply up to Deadly.

My motivation for maxing-out all six items in the OP was pure RL OOC results-orientated time management. Basically I don't have enough time for muh PvP so try to put the least possible time per year, for the maximum possible return, into those aspects of PvE that might assist the PvP.

I know that in the list in the OP some items (e.g. creds) might seem more obviously helpful to PvP than others (e.g. explo rank) but believe me all of them have an actual benefit. The only ones with no current benefit are the Admiral and King ranks, but they were 'future proofing'.

I maxed each one when specific game circumstances offered a perfect way to do it quickly and/or when there was a genuine side-benefit. Some are insufficiently helpful to be worth doing slowly and standalone, but were worth doing quickly with a side-benefit, if you see what I mean.
 
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The maxest rank of all! And actually my motivation as well, just in a different way. Let me explain...



Totally understand what you mean, but for me to feel the 'achievements' in the OP as personally satisfying, I'd have to have done them 100% traditionally legit. It's the kind of person I am. I didn't, so don't derive satisfaction from them.

So, I stopped feeling a sense of achievement credits-wise at 700 million, because thereafter the min-maxing crept in (up to that point I was completely 1984, old school) and for combat rank the same would apply up to Deadly.

My motivation for maxing-out all six items in the OP was pure RL OOC results-orientated time management. Basically I don't have enough time for muh PvP so try to put the least possible time per year, for the maximum possible return, into those aspects of PvE that might assist the PvP.

I know that in the list in the OP some items (e.g. creds) might seem more obviously helpful to PvP than others (e.g. explo rank) but believe me all of them have an actual benefit. The only ones with no current benefit are the Admiral and King ranks, but they were 'future proofing'.

I maxed each one when specific game circumstances offered a perfect way to do it quickly and/or when there was a genuine side-benefit. Some are insufficiently helpful to be worth doing slowly and standalone, but were worth doing quickly with a side-benefit, if you see what I mean.

Well it's a personal goal, how you achieve them (and whether you can hold you head up high against your own personal standards) is up to you of course.

When I bought the game I knew I would want to get to Elite, because that's the point of the game, for me. Once I had the game I saw there were now three Elite targets, but exploration wasn't something I bought the game to do, and earning money had only ever been a means to an end in previous versions of Elite - you earned money by any means in order to afford the upgrades to make getting to Elite quicker, trading & exploring (to find new income sources).

In ED it started out that way, the only way to make decent money was by trading (hard work) or exploring (easier but slower) so just knuckled down & got on with rares trading & other things to be able to afford to kill NPCs more effectively.

But I also knew it was only a matter of time & persistence to get to Elite, if you stick with it eventually you will get there. It's not a test of skill particularly, it's a test of endurance, and I was up for that, so I challenged myself to get to Elite within a year, to re-earn my Acornsoft badge (my avatar).

As it turned out the game soon changed to make earning cash from combat much easier, and I abandoned trade & exploration, instead using the profits from bounty hunting to fund my upgrades. It made the game less deep, it took away the need to be a jack of all trades & allowed me to focus on optimising for combat, and I achieved my goal (Combat Elite) well before the other two. For the first time I did it without resorting to criminal activity, a personal rule I had not managed to stick to in previous versions.

So I set myself a stretch goal of getting the triple within a year of buying the game. I bought the game on the 13th January 2015, was Combat Elite by August and since then have lost pretty well all interest in combat. Between August & the end of the year I rarely had weapons fitted, I was either in a trade ship or a long-legged explorer, I didn't use any external tools or follow how-to guides, and while getting to Trade Elite (in 1.4) was hard work I wouldn't want to repeat, the final push to get Exploration (and therefore the triple) was one of the best moments I've experienced in a game. Tight up against a (self-imposed) deadline, I pushed far harder than I would otherwise have done, and achieved my goal with a week to spare.

I know what it took to achieve the goal I set for myself, it was a real challenge and I'm proud of myself for rising to the challenge rather than just giving up. Mostly I'm pleased that I found a target that wasn't too easy, or too hard.

Later I did a similar thing, taking my Corvette to Beagle Point, although I didn't set a time limit on that, I just knew it was possible in theory & pushed myself to achieve my goal, and derived personal satisfaction from an otherwise meaningless and arbitrary target.

I don't currently have another personal goal, I'm still on my way back to the bubble (very slowly) in my Corvette but when one arrives in my head I'll probably enjoy working out how to break it down into manageable chunks and generally being tenacious (my only real skill) to achieve that too ;)

If you aren't proud of an achievement it's not an achievement, it's just a thing you did. Set yourself a lofty goal & a set of rules. Take a personal journey to push yourself and find out what kind of person you really are, and regardless of whether you actually manage it or not, be proud of yourself for not giving up.
 
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