Probably applies to consoles as well
Curious - Your reaction to Cmdr Tony Curtis' Videos?
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Schadenfreude.
Plus I lol'd.
But I prefer CMDR Spatula and Ghost Giraffe for my Elite lulz.
https://youtu.be/eF5qliPni04
And to those who say :"Who?" and "I don't care"
- To me it just makes you look out of touch with the galaxy that you spend so much time and effort in.
Plus I lol'd.
But I prefer CMDR Spatula and Ghost Giraffe for my Elite lulz.
https://youtu.be/eF5qliPni04
And to those who say :"Who?" and "I don't care"
- To me it just makes you look out of touch with the galaxy that you spend so much time and effort in.
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That won't help any more
He. But that's okay, if being her works for you, honey I'll be her for you.
There is a belief, that is fundamentally flawed, even if well intentioned, that there is only ever one valid way to play elite. Oh, there's pretence upheld that off course people can play it their way. But they can't. You play a specific way, and this is fine; anything else? Unacceptable. Not just "the game should better handle it" unacceptable; just literally this is unacceptable.
It's that black & white. Frontier was shooting for grey, I think; some moral questions and challenges. It's become little more than black/ white. This is something that always plagues sandboxes to a degree though; some folks don't want choice, they want it a linear, fixed experience that everyone must adhere to, and will fight, forever, towards that goal.
Frontier have, effectively, offered people choice. Two sides of the same coin; and they will never be forgiven for it.
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I am secretly loving (well, was now, I suppose) that my gender has now become a confusion; it'll be a meme next week.
Now there's a blast from the past (quite literally). Who knows (it's not me, though).
Speaking of gender and the confusion of. To me you'll always just be Jason, that internet person with the fabulous moustache. You may well be an advanced AI that's escaped from Frontier's servers and has gained some sort of higher being in the process.
I'm not sure which is better now, come to think of it.
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I'd prefer to be known for my subtle wit, but I'll take what I can get.
The wit is subtle, the mustache is bold as love.
He. But that's okay, if being her works for you, honey I'll be her for you.
There is a belief, that is fundamentally flawed, even if well intentioned, that there is only ever one valid way to play elite. Oh, there's pretence upheld that off course people can play it their way. But they can't. You play a specific way, and this is fine; anything else? Unacceptable. Not just "the game should better handle it" unacceptable; just literally this is unacceptable.
It's that black & white. Frontier was shooting for grey, I think; some moral questions and challenges. It's become little more than black/ white. This is something that always plagues sandboxes to a degree though; some folks don't want choice, they want it a linear, fixed experience that everyone must adhere to, and will fight, forever, towards that goal.
Frontier have, effectively, offered people choice. Two sides of the same coin; and they will never be forgiven for it.
Yep, because anyone who is even a little critical of people who spend hours UM bombing a terminally ill man's mega ship, or spend hours ramming noobs to death in an orca or any other of the assortment of toxic behavior done exclusively for the sadistic pleasure the griefer gets out of knowing that they ruined someones day, is a believer of the One And Only Way of the Holy Shieldless T-7 and thinks that fdev should force everyone to play exactly as they do.
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So your reaction to this thread is to go full nuclear and pull the medical equivalent of a Godwin to make a point. And a bad one at that. Some actions have consequences. And frankly dragging such an incredibly poinant and painful thing into a debate, to use purely to serve a point, is beyond ordinary.
Most people play this game to play the game; not have their personal circumstances dragged into it to be dissected and used as a mallet every time that’s convenient.
And yet. Here we are. Perhaps a little objectivity might be good.
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You’re the whole package, to be fair. The moustache just sells it.
Well you did imply that people who had a negative opinion of griefers did so out of a belief that everyone should be forced to play the game the same way they did, which I found a bit objectionable considering that griefing in this game goes to quite beyond simply not being a pacifist. Maybe I went overboard with that example, but if you can honestly tell me that there is no validity in anti-griefer sentiment when someone (or multiple someones) actually put the effort into collecting enough UA's and then transporting them all the way out to Colonia JUST to screw with a man who was dying of cancer for the fun of it then so be it. I personally think that there is a difference between not wanting players to do anything that could inconvenience you at all (aka forcing everyone to play the same way) and being critical of those who go out of their way to ruin the experience of other players repeatedly for no other reason than they like upsetting others.
I don't have an opinion on the person in question as I haven't seen their videos, but your comment seemed to apply to people who were critical of griefing as a whole and not just this one guy in particular. I don't think your argument holds water though because I have seen a lot of people saying that they would love to have to deal with PVP piracy and other forms of alternative game play, they just don't want to have to deal with the griefers who interdict people with the sole intention of killing them to upset them.
It’s all about the views, folks.
I said, Frontier gave people choice. I implied no such thing as you say. I am not my brother's keeper, it is neither my responsibility, or place, to tell people how they should play. That's up to the developer, and every other commander to decide. Frontier has never actually asked us to do that, either, but you could be forgiven for thinking they clearly did. The game asks morally ambiguous questions at times; and let's the player decide which way to go. That's an important aspect, regardless of whether you agree with some action, or not. This has nothing to do with whether I morally agree with something or not.
People always do. Because they believe their personal moral code, is the only valid one; their cause is just. Ends justifies the means. And that's the point I was making. The game allows people to express actions that are morally questionable. Everyone's moral compass is different; and not everyone sees the game universe the same way.
And I am genuinely not trying to be harsh; choice is important. Even if it's not a choice I might necessarily make. Those choices are important and are part of the reason the game is half-as-good as it is.
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This thread got gud.
Is the line that made me think you were implying people who had issue with griefing wanted everyone to be a pacifist. I don't think anyone (ok, most people. There are always a few crazies who will defend anything) is against pvp being allowed in open, it's when a player kills harmless player sidewinders by the dozens just for the fun of it that people start to argue that something should be done in game to discourage and prevent that. I don't think making griefing very difficult is the same as eliminating all choice. The new crime and punishment system is an example of this. Hopefully it should make it harder for players to go around just killing random players at will for the fun of it, while still allowing piracy, powerplay and other pvp action that is done for reasons more deep than "I like being an asp"
Chalk it up to limitations in communicating via written medium, where context is often absent. I’ve never held any other opinion that choices are important; and that some have consequences and the ones not liked shouldn’t automatically be removed.
This has never ever been labelling people, or demanding someone play my way. The thing that makes elite great, is that we have some choice. Frontier have work to do, but that’s a fairly bloody obvious thing at this point.
But part of choice, is that not everything is ours to control; this isn’t a problem to solve. How the game can better handle that, quite probably is.
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Fair enough. I think there aren't enough consequences for certain actions personally, but I can see where you are coming from. Sorry for the miscommunication.
I've watched almost all of them. I'm not sure how that actually, fundamentally changes the game, though? That also doesn't explain why you've taken so very much interest in something you "don't see the point in".
I'm not sure what your point is. It's someone playing elite; potentially differently to someone else. I'm not criticising you, I'm trying to understand whether you are in fact actually very interested in it, enough to kick off yet another "someone is playing the game differently and so I have some opinions on that" thread we've seen quite a few times now.
My 'opinion' is that it's someone else playing elite, and doing their thing. And apparently enjoying it. It might not be my thing, but that's not really relevant, is it. My opinion isn't "someone did something on the internet so I must ask my chums on the forums to have some feelings about it".
I'm not being nasty; I'm probably just desensitised to all the "someone did something in the game, question mark exclamation point" threads of late. Yes. Other people also play elite. You could be forgiven for thinking this is an utter revelation for some.
I wonder if Brett will consider a new sub-forum..
The "Someone is playing the game differently and so I have some opinions on that" sub-forum, or "SIPTGDASIHSOOT" (pronounced "Sipped-Ga-Dasi-Soot").
Having never watched one of Mr Curtis' videos, I popped along to Youtube to have a look. I presume the other comdr's streams in some of the videos is by permission, fuzzy on the rights side of that.
I fonud the vidoe where Tony hid amongst NPCs and sniped the streamer the most entertaining - particularly those that had changed their hud colour and could not work out where they had been shot from - there is a lesson there. Althuogh I found the flicking to flim clip to explain "I killed you" immediately after a ship was destroyed a bit tiresome to be honest, as the point was obvious, and the outcome inevitable. I also found the series of videos repetetive, but not fun in the "Anerican Footballs Greatst Hits" sense, really quite dull after the 2nd video, so did not subscribe.
Nice attempt at fun videos, some editting skills, would not say the videos cast Tony in a bad light, just early in his Youtube abilities, still plenty to learn about making videos.
Cheers
Simon
I fonud the vidoe where Tony hid amongst NPCs and sniped the streamer the most entertaining - particularly those that had changed their hud colour and could not work out where they had been shot from - there is a lesson there. Althuogh I found the flicking to flim clip to explain "I killed you" immediately after a ship was destroyed a bit tiresome to be honest, as the point was obvious, and the outcome inevitable. I also found the series of videos repetetive, but not fun in the "Anerican Footballs Greatst Hits" sense, really quite dull after the 2nd video, so did not subscribe.
Nice attempt at fun videos, some editting skills, would not say the videos cast Tony in a bad light, just early in his Youtube abilities, still plenty to learn about making videos.
Cheers
Simon
Ive even stopped watching OA vids now, guess my ED mojo really is takeing the long way home. I used to watch a few other ED youtubers think Im still subbed but on the whole I dont watch that much youtube unless I need to find somthing out.
As for the OP I wasnt even aware there was somone called Tony Curtis making youtube vids till this post, so not even watched or intend to watch any of his stuff.
As for the OP I wasnt even aware there was somone called Tony Curtis making youtube vids till this post, so not even watched or intend to watch any of his stuff.