How do we kick Aegis out of Obsidian Orbital?

Oh please!

Every single station attacked had an Aegis connection. Only a fool would consider that "just" a coincidence.

Not interested in debating over the obvious.

Have fun with the repair effort.

Can we also argue a bunch more about whether or not the aliens really are Thargoids? That was a fun exercise in mental gymnastics.
 
Can we also argue a bunch more about whether or not the aliens really are Thargoids? That was a fun exercise in mental gymnastics.

Early on there was no solid evidence to prove they were. We assumed they were, but that was it.

Funny how you seem to have a problem with that, but when 11 out of 11 stations attacked are all hosting Aegis labs, but none of the surrounding stations that don't host such labs have been attacked, you can't see the difference/connection. ;)

As far as the Thargoids are concerned... I have never doubted that the attacks are Thargoid in origin. But in a game filled with thousands of FACTIONS, it amazes me that so many players can't connect the dots as to there possibly being FACTIONS of Thargoids too.

These blatantly obvious points is why I refuse to debate over either subject anymore. I figure if someone who is arguing against the obvious has not managed to pick up on all the clues Frontier is throwing at them, they are hardly going to be able to hold their own in a debate. ;)
 
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Can we also argue a bunch more about whether or not the aliens really are Thargoids? That was a fun exercise in mental gymnastics.

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It looks like there is some interest out there for this at least, but nothing really to do about it, it seems. Kind of a shame that after all this, this is the narrative we're left with, with Obsidian Orbital.

Probably wouldn't be any easier to pry Jaques Station out of Colonia either... ;)
 
…, compiling a list of all known starports (and maybe surface bases too?) in the Pleiades "region" (I suppose we should also define that region), mark which ones have Aegis labs, an Aegis BGS presence, or no known Aegis influence at all, and start comparing that to the list of attacked stations. …

This is on my to do list, but I have not that much free time in the next few days. If anything I will learn how many stations there are already in the Pleiades region.
I might try to find out when those stations where added.


Probably wouldn't be any easier to pry Jaques Station out of Colonia either... ;)

I think that's easier. Jaques Station is in Colonia as in-game asset. In-game there is (beside that GalNet article - is that article still readable in-game?) absolutely no indication that Aegis has a facility on/in Obsidian Orbital.

I agree with you that there is not that much for us to interact with the story/narrative (sadly).

BTW: the almost complete absence of ways to interact with Aegis feels like FDev not wanting us to interact with Aegis and as if we are staring at the wrong part of the story while something else, important, happens unnoticed.
I wouldn't be surprised if FDev really intended Aegis to be "good guys/gals" and just we players try to desperately find conspiracies everywhere. (But then, there are conspiracies everywhere in this game, so…)
 
Aegis are pretty much INRA reborn, there is more than enough evidence to support that.

In OO, start by switching the system state of Maia, which means getting a faction to 60% influence to start a war for control of the system. Once a more stable superpower loyal faction is in control, it will then be possible to lift Maia out of Anarchy and at the very minimum back to Low security. Ideally you should be heading to get Maia as a superpower (Fed, empire, alliance) loyal system in High security with a PP power in control as well.
 
Aegis are pretty much INRA reborn, there is more than enough evidence to support that.

In OO, start by switching the system state of Maia, which means getting a faction to 60% influence to start a war for control of the system. Once a more stable superpower loyal faction is in control, it will then be possible to lift Maia out of Anarchy and at the very minimum back to Low security. Ideally you should be heading to get Maia as a superpower (Fed, empire, alliance) loyal system in High security with a PP power in control as well.
I was about the say something similar as well.
Aegis is most certainly NOT a friendly scientific research agency, but rather a military organisation. I feel we have the right to reject any military organisation being on an outpost dedicated to peaceful scientific stuides. I’d get it if they sincerely cared about the human race, but all they want is war - promises of peace are but a tool for them towards that end. So I’m all for kicking hem out of obisidian orbital. We can leave the war to the rest of the stations in the pleiades.
 
Aegis are pretty much INRA reborn, there is more than enough evidence to support that.

In what way?

Same as in "science and defense organization founded by superpowers as an answer to the Thargoids that the founding superpowers considered a threat"?

Or same as in "doing things outside of their direct mandate, killing other humans to keep things secret and overall doing things considered amoral in most human societies"?

If it's the later, then evidence is a bit sparse - unless you consider one "evidence" that could equally be just the result of the BGS having a hiccup to be enough.

Sure, Aegis is doing military research (defense and weapons), they consider the Thargoids hostile, the don't share every information they have with everybody.
Beside that, there is only that "black flight" DBXs at that installation that previously hadn't a faction identification and now have the faction identification of the controlling faction of that system.

But even if that "black flight" organization is indeed Aegis. How does that turn Aegis into an evil organization?
In case of that installation they just protect their territory. They don't attack if you don't get to close. They don't attack unless provoked. (btw, does anybody notice a similarity between the behavior of those "black flight" DBXs and Thargoids? ;) ) And if I remember correctly they even warn trespassers that they will attack.

That they tried to prevent other humans to provoke Thargoids by doing "research"? We all know what happened after CMDRs encountered Thargoids - the first thing they did was shooting at them.

How far would you have gone to prevent other humans to provoke Thargoids and/or attack Thargoids?
 
Vindication.

It was Aegis all along, as was foreshadowed and the evidence pointed right at.

Galnet said:
Admiral Aden Tanner, Aegis’s chief military liaison, made this statement:

“We have identified that the Thargoids are specifically targeting starports where Aegis laboratories are established."
 
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Hate to break it to you, but, we figured that out months ago.

There's a reason why the Thargy are targeting Aegis, they want to prevent another bio attack on their species. Instead of trying to make peaceful contact, they chose the "shoot first" option instead (mainly because it makes for better game play).

Also, don't think that all of INRA's development on the Mycoid weapon is lost.
 
WOW!

Talk about denial! lol! [haha]

Where I come from, we tend to call a Spade "A Spade".

The link between these attacks and Aegis is beyond obvious. For anyone to even suggest that there is any doubt as to the motive is to flat out deny the evidence, the facts, the reality.

Amazing! [rolleyes]

(But in the real world, the same overwhelming evidence doesn't stop the Room Temperature IQ crowd from denying Climate Change.... So there are parallels in the real world to show a lack of understanding between provable facts and irrational beliefs)

You mean like the link between polio and ice-cream? Obvious it was. After all, when ice cream sales went up, so did polio infection rates. Bleeding' obvious it was.

And wrong.

The link between these attacks and Aegis may be linked, probably is, but it could be something else. The presence of Alien Tech on the station, for example.
 
Sigh, read the articles on polio and ice cream from the time.

I did not say it was incorrect, just that there could be other reasons that did not involve Aegis. Sorry, it's the engineer training. A hypothesis is not proof.

Don't give me that crap and pretend to teach what I already know. I already went over it, if you read the thread.

Denying it still isn't skepticism, science, or "engineer training", it's just being obtuse and stubborn.

Before the recent Galnet article, yes, as I said myself it was strong evidence, not proof. Now it's proof. We're being told directly. It's not a hypothesis anymore.

“We have identified that the Thargoids are specifically targeting starports where Aegis laboratories are established."
 
Don't give me that crap and pretend to teach what I already know. I already went over it, if you read the thread.

Denying it still isn't skepticism, science, or "engineer training", it's just being obtuse and stubborn.

Before the recent Galnet article, yes, as I said myself it was strong evidence, not proof. Now it's proof. We're being told directly. It's not a hypothesis anymore.

Ah, I see. You believe everything that's written in the newspapers as well then?
 
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