Just interdicted a wanted CMDR....

sollisb

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Sandro Sammarco said:
Hello Commanders!

Hopefully, it was just that the target was wanted by the faction that controlled the system (hence being wanted in supercruise), but not wanted where they dropped out due to it being controlled by a different faction.

In either case, you need to scan the ship before firing as scan status does not survive supercruise or hyperspace jump transitions.

All this being said, we have made significant changes to the crime system, so keep an eye out for stuff that looks wrong, and submit bugs if necessary.
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Doesn't make sense! A Player shows as wanted in SC, so I interdict, and then have to scan again? And the Player is gonna sit there right and wait while I scan them?

Stealthie said:
Must say, this is the sort of thing that concerns me.
As a generally law-abiding player I'm a bit clueless as to what you need to do when you get into trouble.

I was leaving a station, yesterday, when an FdL just launched right in front of me and I got a Cr100 fine for the collision.
Previously, I would just pay the fine the next time I'm back there but now I notice there's a message in the shipyard warning me of something-or-other the next time I fly that ship.

Now I'm worried it's going to be like ED's version of one of those stories where somebody ends up getting SWATed as a result of a heap of unpaid parking tickets. :p
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It's like me getting a parking fine in Dublin and having to fly to Germany to pay it off! NutZ!
 

Ashnak

Ashnak
sollisb said:
Doesn't make sense! A Player shows as wanted in SC, so I interdict, and then have to scan again? And the Player is gonna sit there right and wait while I scan them?
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That's what the KWS will (hopefully) remedy once these changes (see the correcponding thread) become active. To take your example from below: the player is wanted in Europe, but you run him to ground in Switzerland, and he just thumbs his nose at you since the Swiss police doesn't recognize a European warrant.

sollisb said:
It's like me getting a parking fine in Dublin and having to fly to Germany to pay it off! NutZ!
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You can pay your parking fine in Dublin all right, but if you have a bounty, those lads at the garda would rather cash in that bounty by themselves by bringing you to justice, so you'll have to find a sympathetic Italian with some connections to clear your name.
 

John J. Aubrey

John J. Aubrey
For what it's worth, I've had this exact same thing happen with "wanted" NPCs I've pulled from SC. Fortunately I just shot at them and realized what was happening, so only had the 9 min bounty, rather than killing them.
 

sollisb

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Ashnak said:
That's what the KWS will (hopefully) remedy once these changes (see the correcponding thread) become active. To take your example from below: the player is wanted in Europe, but you run him to ground in Switzerland, and he just thumbs his nose at you since the Swiss police doesn't recognize a European warrant.
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That's not what I'm saying... If I'm 'wanted' in lets say Ceos. I'm in Supercruise and another player interdicts me, to claim my bounty, what Sandro is saying is the player has to scan me again. What I'm saying is that while he's scanning me, I am not going to sit and wait... Of course some bright-spark is going to say use a KWS with 'fast scan'... Which narrows it's scan beam, which allows me to dodge up and down and around while waiting on FSD to engage :D

None of it adds up. It looks like it was made up over a water-cooler. Then they bolted on Grade 5 confusion modules.


Ashnak said:
You can pay your parking fine in Dublin all right, but if you have a bounty, those lads at the garda would rather cash in that bounty by themselves by bringing you to justice, so you'll have to find a sympathetic Italian with some connections to clear your name.
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From my understanding and maybe there's a 'mea'culpa' but if I get a stray fire fine in the hazrez, I have to go to some brokerhouse to pay it off? I seriously may be wrong on that.
 

Pville_Piper

Pville_Piper
You've always had to scan before firing. I got myself in trouble before because I dropped out of supercruise and opened fire immediately. The wanted status didn't show up again until a rescan in normal space.
 

Ashnak

Ashnak
sollisb said:
That's not what I'm saying... If I'm 'wanted' in lets say Ceos. I'm in Supercruise and another player interdicts me, to claim my bounty, what Sandro is saying is the player has to scan me again. What I'm saying is that while he's scanning me, I am not going to sit and wait... Of course some bright-spark is going to say use a KWS with 'fast scan'... Which narrows it's scan beam, which allows me to dodge up and down and around while waiting on FSD to engage :D

None of it adds up. It looks like it was made up over a water-cooler. Then they bolted on Grade 5 confusion modules.
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That would make scanning (and bounty hunting) a bit more interesting. And it's a consequence of having (low level) bounties issued by local factions. Once the superpower bounties will come in, that should work out a bit better (or even more cofusing, if you have two different superpowers in one system).
Keep in mind that local factions may be extremely envious about their local privileges...



sollisb said:
From my understanding and maybe there's a 'mea'culpa' but if I get a stray fire fine in the hazrez, I have to go to some brokerhouse to pay it off? I seriously may be wrong on that.
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Depends on the type of penalty. A fine you can pay off at the local office of the issuing faction, a bounty you need to pay off at an Interstellar Factor. A minor friendly fire incident should only give you a fine, but there are at the moment a lot of angry noises from people who just 'clipped' a clean ship and reportedly got a bounty. May be that they clipped it with a size 4 PA, or that they're confusing fines and bounties, or that the friendly fire/reckless discharge boundary needs to be lifted somewhat. If it happens to you,
- check your transactions tab whether you have a fine or a bounty
- if you have a bounty you think you didn't deserve, write a bug report

Jack Shaftoe made a new flowchart which pretty much covers it all as it should be.
 

Clifra Jones

Clifra Jones
Pville_Piper said:
You've always had to scan before firing. I got myself in trouble before because I dropped out of supercruise and opened fire immediately. The wanted status didn't show up again until a rescan in normal space.
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I have actually had wanted NPC in SC then show clean in NS even after a scan. Learned that lesson the hard way. Now at least the explanation of jurisdiction makes sense.
 

Jukelo

Jukelo
sollisb said:
That's not what I'm saying... If I'm 'wanted' in lets say Ceos.
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There is no such thing as being wanted in a system. You are wanted by a faction. When the faction controls the system, you are wanted in most of the system except those areas which are controlled by other factions, namely stations and planetary bases. This is no different from how it has been working since the crime rework of 2015. So yes, you can appear as wanted in supercruise because the controlling faction wants you dead and the overwhelming majority of the system (that is, mostly empty space) defaults to the controlling faction's ownership. But you can still take shelter at one of the other factions who don't care.
 
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Jukelo

Jukelo
CMDR Dumbfries said:
This new C&P system is awesome.
Need a spreadsheet or a flowchart to figure out when it's okay to open fire.
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My pleasure.
I can also produce flowcharts to assist in safely lacing your shoes, eating soup, and all kinds of difficult, multi-steps processes.
 

DNA-Decay

DNA-Decay
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