PvP Why PvP is not popular in Elite Dangerous?

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But we dont have the %. Or te numbers. I can make the exact same point to support me arguement:

Group B wins by a Majority of 1%
Report says they won by a vast majority.

Soo.......

We dont have the numbers to suggest how big the gap was.
What frontier DID say was it was a majority.

This guy just ASSUMED it was a vast majority.

And for some reason..you just cant seem to grasp this concept.
Instead of assuming...why not just say what we DO know...its a majority.....

Rocket.
Science.

That 1% could represent 10,000 people, which is a pretty vast amount.
 
Rocket.
Science.

If you're going to ask for science - can you provide any evidence or citation that it is not a vast majority?

So far all the evidence appears to point to it being one.

Unless you can show otherwise I see no reason why we shouldn't continue to say that and ignore you.

ps. https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/6stz53/elite_dangerous_mega_survey_results/

Just 12% for PvP - and in a self-selecting poll where the PvPers will have all come to vote to try and skew the result.
 
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All of this has become vastly boring. See what I did there!

But let's add some unnecessary fire. The 'vast' qualifier, while not originally sourced, is more than likely accurate. That reddit survey did show an interesting pattern of player games style preferences - with PvP coming out as a pretty vast minority. This from a fair sized survey open over a long enough period to have potentially interesting results which may have some methodological flaws (admitted by the creator), but given that it was conducted on reddit, it probably shows high representative PvP numbers than there are within the non-reddit population.


So, 'vast' may well have been 'incorrectly sorced/referenced' within the context of the quote provided, but accurate none the less.

Now how about moving on.

Why assume when we already have informatin that says Majority.
Why just assume its vast? You cant assume it is and pass it off as fact.

Thats all im saying here.
And im really very, VERY suprised and i hope,I HOPE the average human does not share this guys "logic"
 
If you're going to ask for science - can you provide any evidence or citation that it is not a vast majority?

So far all the evidence appears to point to it being one.

Unless you can show otherwise I see no reason why we shouldn't continue to say that and ignore you.

You could have ignored me several page back and saved some face.
Instead you ended up saying hes guessing its vast proving my point..i can source that if you like... and quote you directly...but im sure you remember.

;)
 
I can make the exact same point to support me arguement: In fact i did...nice to see your using my templates now too. Heres another:

Group B wins by a Majority of 1%
Report says they won by a vast majority.

Soo.......

We dont have the numbers to suggest how big the gap was.
What frontier DID say was it was a majority.

This guy just ASSUMED it was a vast majority.

And for some reason..you just cant seem to grasp this concept.
Instead of assuming...why not just say what we DO know...its a majority.....

Rocket.
Science.

I do grasp it, what you don't grasp is that you are making just as big an assumption, i.e, that it isn't a vast majority. Frontier said 'majority, they didn't say 'big majority', they didn't say 'small majority' either they just said 'majority'. And as I said it is semantics, you know why? - because even if we did have the figures, let's say it was 63% don't PVP and 37% do, that may qualify as 'vast' to some here but it may not to you.

You really can't call someone out for making an assumption while at the same time making them yourself, that makes you a hypocrite.
 
Why assume when we already have informatin that says Majority.
Why just assume its vast? You cant assume it is and pass it off as fact.

Thats all im saying here.
And im really very, VERY suprised and i hope,I HOPE the average human does not share this guys "logic"

English is not everyone's first language.
 
You could have ignored me several page back and saved some face.
Instead you ended up saying hes guessing its vast proving my point..i can source that if you like... and quote you directly...but im sure you remember.

;)

I've not lost any face - please see edit above.

https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/6stz53/elite_dangerous_mega_survey_results/

12%

Vast majority do not PvP.

Your turn to provide any evidence, take your time.

ps. yes I'd love a source for me saying that, cheers. I'm sure you'll provide it given how thorough you want to be here.
 
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I do grasp it, what you don't grasp is that you are making just as big an assumption, i.e, that it isn't a vast majority. Frontier said 'majority, they didn't say 'big majority', they didn't say 'small majority' either they just said 'majority'. And as I said it is semantics, you know why? - because even if we did have the figures, let's say it was 63% don't PVP and 37% do, that may qualify as 'vast' to some here but it may not to you.

You really can't call someone out for making an assumption while at the same time making them yourself, that makes you a hypocrite.

Tired now so im just gonna paste this reply again:

Quoting myself here, brilliant!

" you ended up saying hes guessing its vast proving my point..i can source that if you like... and quote you directly...but im sure you remember."
 
I'd love it if they really made it like a proper hardcore situation for the criminals and they lost everything when they got caught. All engineer process reset, defensive engineers no longer available, ships confiscated, rank lost, permanently blocked from the attacked faction etc

But they prefer pansy-version of cops'n'robbers where they get to rebuy and carry on without any threat bless their little baby selves. No nuts to really face what they say they want

Judging by how many strictly PvE players have run afoul of the new c&p system, I don't think that would wind up being very popular:)
 
Tired now so im just gonna paste this reply again:

Quoting myself here, brilliant!

" you ended up saying hes guessing its vast proving my point..i can source that if you like... and quote you directly...but im sure you remember."

You are guessing too, we all are, christ, for the millionth time, the word majority does not exclude said majority from being a vast one, a medium one or a small one, it is just a majority. The original poster you quoted has as much chance of being correct as you are given how ambiguous the word majority is in terms of the actual numbers involved. Said poster is assuming it is vast, you are assuming it is not, don't call someone out for making assumptions while making them yourself.

You are guessing that it isn't a 'vast majority' when the word 'majority' doesn't exclude that possibility.
 
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Judging by how many strictly PvE players have run afoul of the new c&p system, I don't think that would wind up being very popular:)
Most of the complaints seem to be at the low end (friendly fire etc) and quite a bit of that is down to bugs rather than intended consequences. I still think there should be more severe consequences higher up the notoriety scale, both as a deterrent and more challenging play.
 
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Why assume when we already have informatin that says Majority.
Why just assume its vast? You cant assume it is and pass it off as fact.

Thats all im saying here.
And im really very, VERY suprised and i hope,I HOPE the average human does not share this guys "logic"

Ah, now your lack of comprehending the nuances of English and logic are showing.

We have information from source A, referring to a majority, in an unqualified manner. It may be small, it may be vast.

We have information from source B that confirms a majority exists, and further qualifies it with the only reasonable scale statistical information available.

Yet you seem to want to gloss over source B without even a casual dismissal and bandy about the term assumption, when what I wrote was not based on an assumption at all, rather on my temporary acceptance that source B has added useful information that allows us to further qualify the information we already had.

Altough, I'm not surprised you're continuing to argue. Like a rabid dog with a bone.
 
Judging by how many strictly PvE players have run afoul of the new c&p system, I don't think that would wind up being very popular:)

Before this system was put in place you were strutting around saying there was going to be a PvE meltdown.

There's been nothing of the sort - a few minor flurries. Mostly I've seen people saying they think it's great and they finally get to RP a criminal properly. Can you provide any evidence to the contrary?

Altough, I'm not surprised you're continuing to argue. Like a rabid dog with a bone.

Everything PvP. It's all nails.
 
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