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Rob At Work

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Avago Ero said:
I hope you're feeling okay now Rob At Work. Yeah, complaining about medication. In my case, can't speak for anyone else, I was experiencing panic attacks on top of being depressed. Because of that, I was too scared to really give antidepressants a chance (I read the side effects and it worried me). I have been to A&E a number of times because my breathing was screwed up. It's not like: Oh there is a Lion chasing me; that's why I'm experiencing Adrenalin. It came from nowhere, but not really, I identified the trigger years later: I took my mates body down from a noose, trying to save him when I was about 21. It changed me, but I just hit the bottle and ignored it. Years and years of drunkenness and fighting. Projecting anger on other's when it's yourself you're really angry with. So now, I'm taking small steps: Less alcohol, take the meds. And it's working. I was told it will take a while but it's working now.

I appreciate you talking to me. Thank you.
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I am fine at the moment thank you - I like you, took a while to fully come to terms with it (approx 6 years), it is not an easy path to tread and is generally different for everyone who has to walk it. There are a great many stories along the way, of success and failure and I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.

Congrats to you for dealing with it, keep it up.
 

verminstar

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Cosmos said:
Jordan Peterson has some good advice..

https://youtu.be/JuQgJxYriYI
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2 minutes 40seconds...some lives are just so wrecked they dont even know where to start and goes onto say anti depressants will only fix so much...yep thats me right there. Anti depressants wont fix me because the cause wont be fixed...nothing on this planet can fix the cause so nothing can fix the depression assossiated with it.

So when medication is about as effective as peeing into the wind...what are ye left with? Not a lot truth be told...religion maybe?

Edit...apologies fer hijacking the thread...Ill shut up now and go do grown up stuff instead
 
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Rob At Work

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verminstar said:
2 minutes 40seconds...some lives are just so wrecked they dont even know where to start and goes onto say anti depressants will only fix so much...yep thats me right there. Anti depressants wont fix me because the cause wont be fixed...nothing on this planet can fix the cause so nothing can fix the depression assossiated with it.

So when medication is about as effective as peeing into the wind...what are ye left with? Not a lot truth be told...religion maybe?
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Sometimes searching for a solution that may not come, can add to the issues (by using up energy). Relax and learnt to live in this moment, enjoy it for what it is however small or insignificant. Breath, smell, relax, do the things you can do and enjoy them, in time you will do more and more with the added benefit of being able to smile. :)
 

Avago Earo

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Flatkat said:
A problem is depression can make a person not want to burden others with your own issues. Pride can also complicate matters too. I tend to withdraw from friends and family for these reasons alone. BUT one must ALWAYS remember, tomorrow is another day and who knows what it may bring ;). Laughter is my best medicine, even if i just laugh at myself. And if i can make others laugh at the same time, well that sure makes me feel better.
Avago, i'm so happy your getting on top of it. You deserve every happiness that comes your way ;)
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Exactly. Don't withdraw. Be honest. And laughter is good medicine. No one can affect the past, but we can change the future, right? We are alive, right now. Unhappiness is a sickness, it has it's place, but it shouldn't rule anyone's life.

Along with music, comedy is one of my outlets. Especially with other people, when the laughter becomes contagious.

I have to share this, because I don't want anyone to go through pain unnecessarily, when help is available. Fear got in the way of me getting help. It nearly killed me. If anything I say makes someone consider asking for help, that's what I'm hoping. There might be people going through it now, and maybe my comments will inspire them to get help, rather than suffer in silence. There is a future, but sometimes you can't see it. In that case, ask for help. Don't be shy or ashamed. One day, you'll help someone else. Forget the pride thing; be proud that you have feelings. If the feelings absorb you too much; ask for assistance. When it starts feeling better, you'll probably save someone's life, just by talking like we are on this thread.
 

Komemiute

Komemiute
Avago Ero said:
I'm just saying this to anyone that it might affect. It's important.

Talk to people. I nearly died. My friends asked me to get help. I saw a Doctor. I was scared of medication, so I didn't take it. Twenty odd years and I didn't take it. I explained to my dr about my anxiety, and she gave me a small dose to start with, cut in half, until my body accepts the change. Then, with time I upped the dose. It's starting to work now.

I feel 'normal', I'm enjoying going for walks with my mates' dogs. I couldn't do that a couple of months ago. Today I walked into town and back and appreciated the architecture and the wildlife. I even flirted with a woman last night.

I hope that anyone that is living with depression sees this. I want to encourage anyone to talk to their friends/family. Go to your doctor and be honest.

Medication isn't for everybody, it's still your choice. I'm just trying to share my experience if anyone else is going through it, but has worries.

Anyone can PM me. If I'm online, I'll talk about anything.

Peace.
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I know what you talk about.
I nearly slashed my wrists like my father did when I was 19yrs old.

I'm glad you spoke up and I hope you'll get progressively better to the point of dropping meds. :)
*Hug*
 

Avago Earo

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Rob At Work said:
Sometimes searching for a solution that may not come, can add to the issues (by using up energy). Relax and learnt to live in this moment, enjoy it for what it is however small or insignificant. Breath, smell, relax, do the things you can do and enjoy them, in time you will do more and more with the added benefit of being able to smile. :)
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Yes. That's where I'm getting now. I sat by the river yesterday and enjoyed watching the swans and the ducks. It was time for me and the birds. I couldn't do that a month or so ago. I was in a hurry trying to avoid myself. Drinking my way out then hating myself, but needing a drink to recover from the hate. It became an exhausting loop. I had to sort it out.
 

Avago Earo

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Necronaught said:
Been to that place mate. Not fun. Jiu Jitsu training solves all.... literally. Faith in people check, faith in myself, check. Confidence > anxiety. Yeah took a long time but it clicked. No drugs except, you know the early 90's. But hey we all were.
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Yeah i used to be into Martial Arts in a big way. And you're right: Faith in oneself and confidence are a big contributer to mood. (Early 90's, yeah I know, take a pill to put up with crap music in a field somewhere(some of it was good, I think))

Never tried Jiu Jitsu myself. Preferred fighting standing up. Jui Jitsu makes more sense in a real life defence situation ie if someone grabs you. I did it purely for entertainment and challenging myself. Punching and kicking. In real life, drunk nutters outside pubs grab you, and kick boxing/karate/kung fu won't help as you can't get enough distance to throw a punch/kick. You got some bulldog bloke holding you and head butting you.

I still have friends from my old kick boxing gym and some of them are doing Jiu Jitsu now. They love it. My fighting days are this now: If you catch me up when I run away, and I've still got breath in my lungs: You better run now. You've left me no option.

Cheers for talking, perhaps you can teach me some moves. I totally get what you're saying. Right now, temporarily, the drugs are working and I have a positive outlook.

Cheers.
 

Avago Earo

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verminstar said:
2 minutes 40seconds...some lives are just so wrecked they dont even know where to start and goes onto say anti depressants will only fix so much...yep thats me right there. Anti depressants wont fix me because the cause wont be fixed...nothing on this planet can fix the cause so nothing can fix the depression assossiated with it.

So when medication is about as effective as peeing into the wind...what are ye left with? Not a lot truth be told...religion maybe?

Edit...apologies fer hijacking the thread...Ill shut up now and go do grown up stuff instead
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Yes, that's okay with me. I'll listen to anyone that makes a point. JP has made a point. Take care. Whether you agree or not; Taking an opinion and turning into something else is theft. Peace.
 

Avago Earo

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Komemiute said:
I know what you talk about.
I nearly slashed my wrists like my father did when I was 19yrs old.

I'm glad you spoke up and I hope you'll get progressively better to the point of dropping meds. :)
*Hug*
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I hope you get better too. People here are talking.
 

Avago Earo

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Should I go upstairs? I live in a block of flats. I talked to a woman that I really fancy. She lives a few floors up. She told me her flat number. My heart literally skips a beat. She's beautiful. I feel embarrassed, because I like her so much. I'm going to do it. Wish me luck.
 

Winterwalker

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Avago Ero said:
Should I go upstairs? I live in a block of flats. I talked to a woman that I really fancy. She lives a few floors up. She told me her flat number. My heart literally skips a beat. She's beautiful. I feel embarrassed, because I like her so much. I'm going to do it. Wish me luck.
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You don't need .. luck.

Word.
 

Flatkat

Flatkat
Avago Ero said:
Should I go upstairs? I live in a block of flats. I talked to a woman that I really fancy. She lives a few floors up. She told me her flat number. My heart literally skips a beat. She's beautiful. I feel embarrassed, because I like her so much. I'm going to do it. Wish me luck.
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Absolutely go and see her. If you don't go, you'll never know? Nothing worse than living with "what if's". She may well be thinking the same thing. I wish you luck and confidence.
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Suhono

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Depression is the most insidious illness I've ever faced. I'm almost 29 and have dealt with it to some degree since I was 12. It has chased me when I was a tenacious defender on my high school's soccer team, when I lived overseas during my undergraduate years, when I had a brief spell of a "successful" life and career in my mid-20s, and now as I close out my 20s faced with a separate chronic and deadly illness. Depression, above all other things, is a master of survival. Want to exercise? It will drain your energy to nothing. Want to spend time around your friends? It will make you lose your friends. Want to enjoy the warmth of family? It will make your family think what you have is character flaws, instead of an illness. It's especially bad if you do not have access to quality healthcare, which is one struggle I face at the moment.

The only silver lining in facing every part of life as a battle is that victories, even the small ones, are especially sweet. My father drove up and helped me clean my apartment this past weekend (which had fallen into disarray because I had been sick for one reason or another), and putting in the two and a half hours we spent cleaning was worth the effort. Being able to walk around my apartment and see "normalcy" again has been a welcome change.

Above all, I think one of the most important things is to make it clear to others and, especially, oneself that no matter how bad one's depression or other mental illness is, it is not us. We are always more than just an illness. I think too many times I've looked in the mirror and viewed myself as just the embodiment of this illness, and I know deep down that's not really it at all — it's an illusion, one of depression's "survival mechanisms". I'm glad this thread was made: it contains a lot of advice I should really do better at following. Thank you.
 
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Avago Earo

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Suhono said:
Depression is the most insidious illness I've ever faced. I'm almost 29 and have dealt with it to some degree since I was 12. It has chased me when I was a tenacious defender on my high school's soccer team, when I lived overseas during my undergraduate years, when I had a brief spell of a "successful" life and career in my mid-20s, and now as I close out my 20s faced with a separate chronic and deadly illness. Depression, above all other things, is a master of survival. Want to exercise? It will drain your energy to nothing. Want to spend time around your friends? It will make you lose your friends. Want to enjoy the warmth of family? It will make your family think what you have is character flaws, instead of an illness. It's especially bad if you do not have access to quality healthcare, which is one struggle I face at the moment.

The only silver lining in facing every part of life as a battle is that victories, even the small ones, are especially sweet. My father drove up and helped me clean my apartment this past weekend (which had fallen into disarray because I had been sick for one reason or another), and putting in the two and a half hours we spent cleaning was worth the effort. Being able to walk around my apartment and see "normalcy" again has been a welcome change.

Above all, I think one of the most important things is to make it clear to others and, especially, oneself that no matter how bad one's depression or other mental illness is, it is not us. We are always more than just an illness. I think too many times I've looked in the mirror and viewed myself as just the embodiment of this illness, and I know deep down that's not really it at all — it's an illusion, one of depression's "survival mechanisms". I'm glad this thread was made: it contains a lot of advice I should really do better at following. Thank you.
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Thank you too. Everything you said makes sense. Especially the tidying up bit. I've had a go and I can see bits of my floor now. And yes, the illness shouldn't define you. Take care, stay in touch.
 
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