Are the new nVidia drivers ok? 391.01 released: 2018.2.26

CylonSurfer

CylonSurfer
steevaavoo said:
I'm having a horrible time in VR now. Using a Vive with 1080 Ti and Core i7 7700K, 32GB RAM, Win 10 1709, Samsung NVMe.

Couple of months back I was running in VR every day, and aside from occasional frame skip (VERY occasional), it was great. Though I always had to leave async reprojection on. I did upgrade the NVidia Drivers to whatever were the latest at the time, which made every other frame stutter, so I rolled back straight to 387.92, which fixed the issue.

My settings were as shown (apologies for the enormity of the shots)

ED Profiler:
https://i.imgur.com/ibhrpJX.png

SteamVR Settings Performance Page:
https://i.imgur.com/ScdkCIO.png

SteamVR Settings Developer Page
https://i.imgur.com/7lg0D1V.png

Now, playing 3.0.2 it's unbearable, constant frame skips when sat in the cockpit just looking around. Weirdly, if I click outside the Elite Dangerous Window so another program takes the focus, the VR experience becomes much smoother. No idea why - though as soon as I click back into the ED window, the frame drops all start happening again.

I even changed the preset in-game to VR Ultra (which I believe is lower than what I show above in Profiler) and whilst it was marginally better out in space, there were still an unacceptable number of frame skips in the station, where I had a much better experience before.

I know some of you folks have managed to create settings that allow you a consistent 90fps with no reprojection - I would dearly love to hear how you've managed that.

Any advice you can give me will be most gratefully received - I am reaching the end of my tether, quite frankly, and the Vive is starting to be shuffled toward my "sell this on eBay" pile.
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Please report your issue here:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/409609-Poor-Performance-in-VR?p=6498058#post6498058
 

Manticore

Manticore
Thanks for the heads up OP. I did install a new driver package yesterday but then immediately had to leave town on business so I'm not sure about the driver iteration and will have no chance to play ED again until I get home next week.

I've had no nVidia driver problems or stability issues with ED to date..................... o7!
 

VR Jay Le Chardon

VR Jay Le Chardon
I ran 391.01 for about an hour, and found they caused an odd flicker on the desktop every 15 seconds or so, and in VR a lot of frames dropped, when I switched back to 388.71 my 1080ti resumed its admirable performance as a "buttery pixel cannon" (to quote one of the first reviews of said graphics card on this forum). So from my point of view 391.01 is definitely a driver to avoid. 388.71 is a sweet build for VR as it apparently introduces a software way of giving the oculus full dynamic range.
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PS: I apologise for the supersized screenshot, but I run a 65" 4k screen as my desktop monitor, and the 4k resolution means windows are a lot larger, which is why the screenshot is so big.
 

steevaavoo

steevaavoo
Have performed a removal and clean of all Nvidia drivers using the Guru 3d utility, now using the 388.71 drivers.

Still stutters like crazy in some places, regularly in others - like head tracking is temporarily disabled for a tenth of a second - the Steam VR panel shows a skipped frame for every stutter. Weirdly it will even stutter in the System Map - which makes no sense. It seemed better in deep space, but then proved me wrong when a load of stutters happened in a row just flying through the black in the middle of a fairly standard star system.

Temperature of GPU never got above 68 degrees, even when working hardest. CPU never above 55 degrees. (GTX 1080ti and i7 7700k, respectively)

This doesn't seem frame-rate related. My feeling is that it's something else.
 

Full_Ninja

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steevaavoo said:
Weirdly, if I click outside the Elite Dangerous Window so another program takes the focus, the VR experience becomes much smoother. No idea why - though as soon as I click back into the ED window, the frame drops all start happening again.
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On your mirrored display is it set to full screen or windowed?
 

dezpe

dezpe
steevaavoo said:
Have performed a removal and clean of all Nvidia drivers using the Guru 3d utility, now using the 388.71 drivers.

Still stutters like crazy in some places, regularly in others - like head tracking is temporarily disabled for a tenth of a second - the Steam VR panel shows a skipped frame for every stutter. Weirdly it will even stutter in the System Map - which makes no sense. It seemed better in deep space, but then proved me wrong when a load of stutters happened in a row just flying through the black in the middle of a fairly standard star system.

Temperature of GPU never got above 68 degrees, even when working hardest. CPU never above 55 degrees. (GTX 1080ti and i7 7700k, respectively)

This doesn't seem frame-rate related. My feeling is that it's something else.
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Same "feeling" here. I am running the lowerst graphical settings with SS 0.75 and HMDIQ 1.5 on my Asus Gaming Laptop with GF1070. The system is nowhere near it's max performance and chills at 85°C CPU and 75°C GPU. Playing SOLO in a RES gives me 45FPS constantly making it OK to play. As soon as other Commanders come into the instance the FPS drops to 37FPS causing a nauseating stutter. It is almost as if my GPU is waiting on network data. Could this really be? I am also monitoring my bandwidth. It is not maxed out at any time. What is happening?
 

TorTorden_VR

T
dezpe said:
Same "feeling" here. I am running the lowerst graphical settings with SS 0.75 and HMDIQ 1.5 on my Asus Gaming Laptop with GF1070. The system is nowhere near it's max performance and chills at 85°C CPU and 75°C GPU. Playing SOLO in a RES gives me 45FPS constantly making it OK to play. As soon as other Commanders come into the instance the FPS drops to 37FPS causing a nauseating stutter. It is almost as if my GPU is waiting on network data. Could this really be? I am also monitoring my bandwidth. It is not maxed out at any time. What is happening?
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In short.

Yes it can be.

Even my rig, i7 8700k with a 1080ti 16gb 3200mhz RAM and game installed on an m.2 drive.
Get throttled down to 45fps when there more pilots in a res instance, even just one.
Not always but during interesting bits mostly.
Adjusting graphics quality does nothing, for it.

I am also on 300/300Mb/s FIOS connection.

There has always been something hinky with the networking in this game. and four years in and it still is.
 
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-VR- Max Factor

-VR- Max Factor
TorTorden said:
In short.

Yes it can be.

Even my rig, i7 8700k with a 1080ti 16gb 3200mhz RAM and game installed on an m.2 drive.
Get throttled down to 45fps when there more pilots in a res instance, even just one.
Not always but during interesting bits mostly.
Adjusting graphics quality does nothing, for it.

I am also on 300/300Mb/s FIOS connection.

There has always been something hinky with the networking in this game. and four years in and it still is.
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This is the only reason why I am considering the AMD Vega cards. I have no issues with stuttering on my PC with my AMD Fury. I do have the settings down to medium though and have no issues with any of the AMD drivers. They are all up to date and seem to work perfectly with my oculus rift.
 

nickq

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I'm running 391.01 with a 1080Ti and 3770K cpu. I've not noticed any problem so far. I don't launch the game from steam however, I'm using the stand alone ED launcher so oculus software runs when Elite runs, not SteamVR.
Don't know if that makes any difference.
 

danteuk

danteuk
I'm running 391.01 with a 1060Ti - so far no problem.
Only got my Rift last week, so new to this.
I've never run drivercleaner / 3dguru bloat ware etc.
So my driver has been updated from that even bigger piece of bloatware 'Nvidia Experience" many times, always done as a quick install.

So far I've only seen the black screen problem once( damn, I'm probably cursed now! ), unplugging the rift headset usb and re-plugging it sorted it for me that time.
 

dezpe

dezpe
Oh wow. Well, if an i7 8700k with a 1080ti 16gb 3200mhz RAM and 300/300Mb/s FIOS connection is not able to go beyond 45fps, i dont see what else is needed then. It can hardly get any better than your specs, including the internet connection.

I have tried to tweak a lot of things but i still get horrible stutters when I fly in OPEN and there are other players around. Does not matter if i fly in Supercruise or Normal Space. It gets especially bad in RES sites.

I rolled back my Nvidia driver to 388.59.
I disabled fast start for my WIN10.
I deinstalled gforce experience and other bloat ware.
I activated port forwarding on 5100.
I monitored my bandwidth which was never at the limit.

After playing I checked the network info in the main menu: My ping is >350ms! When i benchmark my internet connection i get <50ms! Is this normal?
 
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