The Current Direction of Elite Dangerous is....
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No, that's not at all the same thing. Steam is the PC's biggest game store and will have a fairly large chunk of the elite sales. Much larger than the fraction of a fraction of a percent you seem to think.
It's not about what fraction of users might use Steam.
It's that the behaviour of Steam users is likely to be different to users of the ED Launcher.
Stats about one cannot be reliably extrapolated onto the other.
That's complete nonsense. You have no evidence to suggest there's any difference whatsoever.
Neither do you, and Steam Stats will never provide it.
Ask yourself what Steam is for and whether Steam users are more likely to chop and change the game they play than non-Steam users.
Doesn't work that way, you're asking to prove a negative. Until you can provide evidence that there's difference between players that bought the game on steam and bought it through the website then you have no statistical proof of anything.
I have 4 copies of Elite, 1 is on Oculus, 2 are on Steam, 1 on Xbox. They're all played the same way. To suggest one set of players is different is pure nonsense.
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There's an obvious difference - people who have Steam and people who don't.
Steam stats only tell you something about Steam users - it's up to the people making bold claims based on those stats to provide the evidence, not me.
Nope! Wrong again. You're the one who made the bold claim that Steam players are different, it's up to you to prove this.
Here's another stat. Steam has 33 million active daily users. It's by far the largest PC game store, and most PC gamer's use it. A lot of them, exclusively. They won't even consider buying a game until it's on Steam. It's going to be a huge chunk of the Elite player base.
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It really isn't. The people who are claiming that the game is doomed based on Steam stats need to prove that those stats are:
a) Useful
b) Applicable to non-Steam users.
Unless there is something intrinsically different between steam users and non-steam-users that would cause them to have drastically different play patterns you can't dismiss steam trends as not reflecting the rest of the playerbase.
I mean you can, but it would be akin to saying that an approaching forest fire won't effect you because it is burning oak trees and you are surrounded by birch trees.
Who is likely to have more games installed?
Woah had to scroll up a bit to catch up but physically laughed when I saw this bit. You can't be serious. Like steam users are 10% more impulsive but ED launcher uses are 16% more likely to have anxiety disorders. There is no behavioural difference between these people.
Now that's some Pseudo science bull right there folks.
Elite isn't doomed. Their p2p network structure really limits the maintenance costs. It'll survive. Whether it'll have enough of a player base to keep it healthy remains to be seen.
If steam stats show a large declining player base then that's exactly what's happening. Trying to come up with imaginary scenarios with no evidence that somehow show that section of players is different from others is just pure fanboism. You're inventing facts to fit your conclusions.
What is really going to be the test for Elite, is the release of another triple A space game. Right now Elite effectively has no competition.
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fixed that for you
Someone needs to take a statistics class.
Been there, done that.
This may be of educational value for you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selection_bias
I sincerely hope that those on this forum that try to use steam and any other sources of data that we have access to never try to get a job is statistical analysis as they'd fail miserably. You can only get an idea of a trend once you have removed all external sources of perturbation. Like holidays, nights, other games coming onto the market or updates of the same. Just taking the figures at face value is about a useful as tossing a coin three times, getting heads each time and therefore concluding that tossing a coin aways results in heads.
Utter nonsense!
Utter nonsense!
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Fixed that for you.
Historically, we have seen this very argument several times before with people saying exactly the same thing. Steam is going down, Elite is doomed!
Guess what? Elite is still here. I guess that Steam going down wasn't quite the "trend" those people expected.
Not that I'm particularly surprised, not one of those people had statistics training.
One of them, as far as I recall, even start the post with: "I'm not a statistician but...".
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