Burst Laser was nerfed? (it no longer has higher breach chance)
- Thread starter TANDKO
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Now I want A grade sensors for my turrets.
Yep you are right about the Long-Range blueprint, but thats not why I mentioned the Focused and the "new" High-Velocity blueprint... you see the Focused blueprint gives you a 120% AP bonus at grade 5.
rapid fire seems a waste on burst lasers as it doesnt increase the burst rate
but as far as i can tell, "Short range intertial impact Burst laser" are currently the highest DPS energy weapons in the game,
and with half kinetic, half thermal damage, it makes them eath through shields and hull equally.
having to get the target into 500m range is just a minor problem then
Yes. Beams are awesome.
I did use turreted burst lasers on my Cutter for a while, but that was only due to power issues. I resolved the power issues and went back to beams and multi-cannons (more accurately, that was what solved my power issues). I also used them on small ships on a couple of occasions for similar reasons.
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Thing is I much prefer burst lasers over pulse for a completely vain reason: the sound
Yes, they used to be much worse than now. They used to offer worse DPE than pulse lasers with very few upsides.
At some point during Season 2 Frontier improved them to offer slightly better DPE than pulse, albeit worse thermal load.
The main thing wrong with burst lasers nowadays is confined to just one size: huge. The c4 burst's firing cycle is absurdly prolonged, making ensuring that the whole burst hits difficult and tiresome.
Even the large one is a little sluggish. I'd love if FDev normalized the burst firing cycle to be the same across all sizes, and instead just increased the delay between bursts on the larger weapons.
Because they're weak, not as weak as pulse, but weak.
at least two other who share my point of view.
bursts are great in small and medium slots, because the actual "burst" is fast there.
but large and huge have so slow bursts, that you are in danger of friendly fire incidents even though you are not holding down that fire button...
From 2016:
tl;dr
Make burst lasers burstier by making the burst quicker, and increasing both the delay between bursts, and the damage of the burst (same DPS)
In their current state, burst lasers are in a somewhat strange place. It's not that they're particularly weak, it's just that their niche isn't well defined. If you want sustained DPS, you go for pulse lasers. If you want good spike damage, you go for beams. Burst lasers just kinda awkwardly straddle the middle ground of that spectrum.
It doesn't have to be like this, though. The advantage that bursts offer is the following: low time-on-target required. The idea with bursts is that they do their damage all at once (you know, in bursts), only necessitating you to be aimed correctly for a moment, and allowing you to spend more time positioning. Unfortunately, bursts don't take this concept far enough. The time between shots is still pretty short. Longer than pulse lasers, but not really long enough to make meaningful use of. To make matters worse, as burst lasers go up in size, the duration of the burst itself (and thus, the time needed on target) get longer- A lot longer. This is silly. It blurs the line between the other lasers, and just exacerbates the problem as you move up in class. To remedy this, and increase the variety of options available to the player, I propose the following:
1) Make the burst duration of all classes as short as the small burst laser. The small burst laser's burst is very short, as it should be. All other burst lasers should use this speed.
2) Dramatically increase the amount of time between bursts. In order for the burst-style weapon to really shine, there needs to be enough downtime to actually do something in it. I'm thinking somewhere in the area of 3-4 seconds.
3) Increase the damage by a proportional amount, such that the overall DPS remains the same. With all that downtime between shots, when these things fire, they should hit HARD.
With these changes, burst lasers would feel like a unique weapon instead of just the awkward middle man on the alpha -> DPS spectrum. They'd have their own fighting style, and well defined niche. They'd have their strength, but still be balanced. Really, I can't see why not to make these changes.
I like focussed bursts too
It's hard not to fit beams to everything these days those, given the enormous amount of power everyone has available, but the focus mod is a nice one nonetheless. The DPE may be worse than pulses, but the DPS is better, so if your capacitor can't handle beams, but can handle bursts, why not?No, no I didn't. I assume it helps me see better. Or concentrate maybe. Or something like that anyway.
Focus will help u then. Good luck cmdr...
Are you saying that the focused blueprint is garbage?
Sure no. Same like short range something. Its there. Its good. But sucks... sorry no offense
A long time ago, I ran some numbers on the focussed mod :
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...ld-(sometimes)-use-these-on-medium-hardpoints
not sure if they still apply now we're at v3.0.X but they made a lot of sense for medium and small hardpoints. All comments and corrections welcome
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...ld-(sometimes)-use-these-on-medium-hardpoints
not sure if they still apply now we're at v3.0.X but they made a lot of sense for medium and small hardpoints. All comments and corrections welcome
Would you, uh, care to explain that particular opinion? Im willing to wait for you to wipe the dribble from your mouth, but the arm flapping is a little distracting.