Not so much interested the shooter part of FPS these days, full access to the rest of ship or station interiors, most definitely. Just being able to get out of the seat and walk around the bridge or landing pad is awesome in VR, we just need access to more areas.
For those asking for space legs - what about VR / HOTAS controls?
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Not so much interested the shooter part of FPS these days, full access to the rest of ship or station interiors, most definitely. Just being able to get out of the seat and walk around the bridge or landing pad is awesome in VR, we just need access to more areas.
As a VR player I'd hope for something like lone echo, where I look down and see my legs whilst walking / floating around the ship. This is very doable from a tech point of view but would obviously be a huge time sink. Unless there were significant game features to doing this - fixing things / making coffee I doubt it'll happen any time soon.
Problem is when you stick your head through a door right now, there's little to nothing on the other side. Would be a huge undertaking. Would love to see this though.
Problem is when you stick your head through a door right now, there's little to nothing on the other side. Would be a huge undertaking. Would love to see this though.
Well yes. My aversion to FPS is not an aversion to Spacelegs as such.
Anyone recall Privateer II? Not really space legs but some good cut scenes and interaction that put your character in and around the stations & planets conducting business.
I'd buy that for a Dollar!
Plenty of people have no problem with smooth FPS movement in VR, and the various controllers which already exist will be fine for an FPS, no need to stick to the HOTAS. And if they really don't want to let go of their HOTAS, I'm sure in pure Frontier fashion space legs will be a purely meaningless optional module anyway.
I don't see why the game should be limited because of a subset of an already tiny subset of the playerbase (motion-sick VR users and HOTAS fanatics). Frontier didn't stop developping planetary landings even though macOS users can't use that. And there's certainly a lot more mac players than VR players.
I don't see why the game should be limited because of a subset of an already tiny subset of the playerbase (motion-sick VR users and HOTAS fanatics). Frontier didn't stop developping planetary landings even though macOS users can't use that. And there's certainly a lot more mac players than VR players.
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What you're asking is that FDEV work on ED, rather than Planet Coaster DLC, or JW...
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.....but if they did, it would be excellent beyond awesome.
Not sure there would be a 'shooter' game inside ED to start with, but certain a first person legs experience similar to subnautica should be within scope...
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.....but if they did, it would be excellent beyond awesome.
Not sure there would be a 'shooter' game inside ED to start with, but certain a first person legs experience similar to subnautica should be within scope...
Yeah, let's cross that distant bridge if we come to it.
Or just go all-out Lynch:[video=youtube;y09OfBYob7k]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y09OfBYob7k[/video]
Not much interestined a First Person Shooter either. First person persepective play in ED though I am interested in, even if there it has the odd bit of shooting involved.
For me if Space legs does become a thing I intend to use this:
https://www.3drudder.com/
It is meant to help with immersion and nausea.
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With how the devs have mentioned most ships don't have gravity at all, this would be the ideal way to get around. Would work well with VR controls, and Xbox controllers can use the triggers to simulate the hands being grabbed. I'd have to play a game that has grabbing controls with a mouse to get ideas on how that works.
I understand that VR is not a problem flying ships.
You can 'simulate' walking around in first person with the camera system, but it is not gameplay. It is more like floating like an invisible drone.
So far every single video I have watched about actual FPA/FPS gameplay in VR has put me off.
I have seen nothing yet that convinced me and it is that what I need before buying into it.
I do not want to get used to VR in ED only to discover further down the road that I hate it for FPA/FPS gameplay in ED, and then constantly having to switch between VR and standard monitor gameplay.
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Sorry mate, VR is one of those things you have to try to understand. No video or any description is going to come close to what it is actually like, not even remotely close.
I understand where you are coming from, it may not be for you, but don't bother with Vids, I'd head to Currys/PC world or wherever, get a demo, and most importantly make sure the guy who is setting it up knows what he is doing, the experience can be awful on a poor spec machine or a crummy demo
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If I could use my Vive wands when "Space Legs" is added to this game, I'd happily add holsters to my HOTAS stand for them. Just grab them and go.
As it stands right now, by the time Frontier finally adds it to the game, I'm hoping that VR gear will have become sophisticated enough to accurately track hands in 3D space, making the wands themselves superfluous.
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From Other Suns and Lone Echo both show how FPS can work in VR both in and out of gravity.
ED is already controller agnostic so i see no issue with touch/wands in FPS mode and hotas in flight.
hopefully there would be some timed transition going between the 2 however to allow me to peel myself out of my flight seat into standing pose for First Person part however.
That said..... my hope would be FD actually split the settings up completely for those who want it, so you could take off your hmd if you wanted when going into FPS mode and play on a monitor (or use big screen VR mode) for one part of the game if you want, so that only the cockpit parts of the game are in VR for those who want it.
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Personally, speaking as someone who has a Vive headset, two things have sold me that its possible to get FPA/FPS done right in VR: Subnautica and Fallout 4 VR. I've played for hours with the latter, never feeling sick, and as good as Subnautica is with keyboard and mouse, I think being able to fully utilize my Vive wands in Subnautica will really blow that experience out of the water.
Personally, speaking as someone who has a Vive headset, two things have sold me that its possible to get FPA/FPS done right in VR: Subnautica and Fallout 4 VR. I've played for hours with the latter, never feeling sick, and as good as Subnautica is with keyboard and mouse, I think being able to fully utilize my Vive wands in Subnautica will really blow that experience out of the water.
Fallout 4 VR is excellent, still haven't tried Subnautica, need to hit that purchase button.
Yes, it could work, but there would need to be restrictions for it to be consistent. It wouldn’t make any sense on planets, and one assumes that stations have simulated gravity as a result of spinning centrifugal force (it looks that way at least). You really need to conceive all of these things from the outset, establish the core mechanics and build everything from that. One of the reasons that Lone Echo works so well is that it is focused solely on VR, and neatly side-steps many of the pitfalls of the medium.Integrating this into an established game in a way that's consistent and works well across platforms isn’t easy.