I hate Witcher 3
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I dont much like the witcher series. The controls are cluncky, the lock-on combat feels lazy and I kept running into invisible walls in W2.
I realise a lot of folks are very happy with it, so I guess it just doesn't click with me.
I'm more of a Skyrim person.
I realise a lot of folks are very happy with it, so I guess it just doesn't click with me.
I'm more of a Skyrim person.
If you happen to have access to a PS4, I recommend you try Horizon Zero Dawn, that's clearly made by people who love the Witcher series 
And Witcher 1 is still the best game in the series.
And Witcher 1 is still the best game in the series.
That's because W2 sucks hard
If I had to criticise Witcher 3 for anything it would be the combat like others say. But it's relative really the rest of the game is produced to a higher standard than anything else I've played in 25 years of playing all manner of games. I didn't NOT enjoy the combat it could be very satisfying at higher difficulty levels.
The upgrade tree was a little too subtle though I felt. There was no sense of a power increase between a rank 1 of something and rank 5. I think it could have done with a bit more "WOW"
The upgrade tree was a little too subtle though I felt. There was no sense of a power increase between a rank 1 of something and rank 5. I think it could have done with a bit more "WOW"
I've got Witcher 3, but after trying it for an hour or so I haven't played it again. Whereas I've spent a lot of time on the earlier Assassin's Creed games (haven't bought the latest, and probably won't).
As with all games, each to their own. I'm sure I'll go back to Witcher 3 at some point, but the controls irritated me which was why I gave up quite quickly.
As with all games, each to their own. I'm sure I'll go back to Witcher 3 at some point, but the controls irritated me which was why I gave up quite quickly.
First of all, TW3 isn't an RPG. Its more of an action adventure with RPG elements. Comparing TW3 with Skyrim is unfair. In Skyrim you can live YOUR life as YOU would in Tamriel. In TW3 you only live GERALT's life.
Once you accept the fact that you cannot play anyone else than Geralt, the game actually becomes extremely good.
Ok, so the graphics are pretty bland at times, and I still haven't really dropped the whole downgrade controversy. But on the technical side of things, it's not that impressive. I mean some of the textures are just bad, and there's not even a sufficient antialiasing method available despite the use of heavy foliage.
Controls are acceptable. Its not intuitive, and it can be very frustrating just to go up a ladder. But it does its job.
The combat feels very dumbed down, but I honestly don't know how it could be done in another way. It has been evolved from earlier titles into what it is today. So it's basically a perfected mechanism from the older games.
But the strength of TW3 lies in its design. The world feels real and the people that lives there seems to have personlities. Sure, you'll hear the same voice actor a million times, but you do that in Skyrim, and many other games too.
There are countless of side quests that makes you feel for the characters, and I've often wondered how things ended up for a character. Every quest feels they are designed with compassion.
One thing where TW3 shines brighter than all the mediocre action adventure games out there (looking at you HZD), is the brilliant crafting. You could literally spend days at getting stuff for that big legendary sword or armor. And you know it's worth it. Scavenging is also a great way of making gold as gold can be very hard to come by. Most games shower you with money with no real hole to put it in, except for your pockets, or in Elite's case, bigger ships to make you get more gold to get bigger ships so you can get more money.
Everything in TW3 has a purpose. Well, except the enormous amount of NPCs wandering around with no purpose other than filling a large world.
The music is also very well made and I'm so happy to know that the composer of TW3, Marcin Przybyłowicz, also composed one of my all time favourite games The Vanishing of Ethan Carter. The music also fits the world and each zone has its own theme.
Everything TW3 tries to do, it does so in such a way that you believe it.
I didn't liked it at first, mainly because I didn't want to play as Geralt. But as soon as I accepted it, it became one of the best games I ever played.
It has raised the bars for other games, and frankly, the expectations on CP2077 are ginormous.
Once you accept the fact that you cannot play anyone else than Geralt, the game actually becomes extremely good.
Ok, so the graphics are pretty bland at times, and I still haven't really dropped the whole downgrade controversy. But on the technical side of things, it's not that impressive. I mean some of the textures are just bad, and there's not even a sufficient antialiasing method available despite the use of heavy foliage.
Controls are acceptable. Its not intuitive, and it can be very frustrating just to go up a ladder. But it does its job.
The combat feels very dumbed down, but I honestly don't know how it could be done in another way. It has been evolved from earlier titles into what it is today. So it's basically a perfected mechanism from the older games.
But the strength of TW3 lies in its design. The world feels real and the people that lives there seems to have personlities. Sure, you'll hear the same voice actor a million times, but you do that in Skyrim, and many other games too.
There are countless of side quests that makes you feel for the characters, and I've often wondered how things ended up for a character. Every quest feels they are designed with compassion.
One thing where TW3 shines brighter than all the mediocre action adventure games out there (looking at you HZD), is the brilliant crafting. You could literally spend days at getting stuff for that big legendary sword or armor. And you know it's worth it. Scavenging is also a great way of making gold as gold can be very hard to come by. Most games shower you with money with no real hole to put it in, except for your pockets, or in Elite's case, bigger ships to make you get more gold to get bigger ships so you can get more money.
Everything in TW3 has a purpose. Well, except the enormous amount of NPCs wandering around with no purpose other than filling a large world.
The music is also very well made and I'm so happy to know that the composer of TW3, Marcin Przybyłowicz, also composed one of my all time favourite games The Vanishing of Ethan Carter. The music also fits the world and each zone has its own theme.
Everything TW3 tries to do, it does so in such a way that you believe it.
I didn't liked it at first, mainly because I didn't want to play as Geralt. But as soon as I accepted it, it became one of the best games I ever played.
It has raised the bars for other games, and frankly, the expectations on CP2077 are ginormous.
Its spoiled other games for me.
Playing Assassin's creed last couple of days - beautiful game, good gameplay, should be really happy with it.
But it ain't no Witcher 3.
The Witcher 3 was a joy to play, although I do not think it is the best game ever. It was the first Witcher game I really could get into.
I wish CD Project would produce the next "Vampire: the Masquerade: Bloodlines" in a modern open world city setting (I loved that game more than any other).
They would make it into a huge success for sure, because they have that same East-European dark world view Troika had..
I have great, great hope for Cyberpunk.
I love scifi more than I do old world fantasy and if CD Project succeeds, then Cyberpunk will be the rpg/action game of the century for me.
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If you happen to have access to a PS4, I recommend you try Horizon Zero Dawn, that's clearly made by people who love the Witcher series
If Zero Dawn would be released on PC, I would order it right now.
I can't deal with console controls. They make me feel like I lost all my fine motor skills. If I bought a console it would not survive a single day.
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If you happen to have access to a PS4, I recommend you try Horizon Zero Dawn, that's clearly made by people who love the Witcher series
And Witcher 1 is still the best game in the series.
That's because W2 sucks hard
I was very disappointed with HZD. It's a mediocre game set in a gorgeous world. I had high hopes for it but it felt like it was developed for young teens with low patience.
Even if I hate the term, it feels like a console game.
RPGs are my favourite genre, I bought w3 on release. Tried it multiple times, never liked it much. There is zero subtlety, the gameplay mechanics are okay at best and the storytelling is a game pretending to be literature like a highschool teen writing a haiku. Yes, it has the correct number of syllables, well done Billy.
It looks good, for a game. Not as good as Battlefield or SW, but good. It has a good story, for a game, though not close to games like torment: tides of numenera. It has poor gameplay, for a game. Whick kinda makes it rather mediocre overall. I have books for storytelling and movies for visuals. Its not even top dog in either instance for games. W3 doesnt come close to being spectacukar in these areas and its redeeming quality, gameplay, simply aint that much. But a kid dies, racism is bad, you get to pick between two women to screw and an evil man turns out to have a heart. Amazing.
Just my 2c, but it isnt in my top3 rpgs of recent years, never mind games in general.
To me the story in a RPG game is everything, the Witcher stories are awesome, even the side quests are wonderful and I love them.
Storytelling is one of a game most strong mechanics it can use to immerse the player.
Great graphic is just good for so long, but a good story will drive the player forward and keep them in the game.
I haven't played any game with a storyline as good as in the witcher.
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Heh, I guess its a good thing there are so many games for us.
In my opinion Torment at least told a new story, rather than the Witcher's cliche-driven rehash of what has been told so many times before. In Torment I already heard novel stuff within the first few minutes, and was making choices in dialogue that were intriguing. In the Witcher I have witches in forests, slaying monsters for hapless townsfolk, evil barons (but with some hamfisted moral ambiguity) who oppress their people all while playing the prototype of the real rough manly anti-hero with a gravely voice. I've been doing that since the early 90s.
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Witcher 3 combat was clunky yes, witcher 1 and 2 combat was another mess entirely..... Annnnnnd I do agree, the witcher 3 ruined most other games with its quality and business practice.
Ubisoft gonna keep churning out rise and repeat Assassin's creeds until every major history time period has been done. Then they are going to pull an Activision, ripped off another game and set it in the "future". Assassin's black ops ghost Modern Future warfare..Creed.
A lot of game major and some minor game developers wet the bed with releases over the past 2 years. a Few exampled are:
Bioware: Mass Effect Andromeda- Agree or not with the "look how politically progressive we are" forcefully jammed into the game. The day one release was a buggy unfinished mess.
EA/Dice: Star Wars battlefront 2: Pay to win micro-transactions that resulted in a boycott and the most down voted AMA in reddit history.
Bungie/Activision: Destiny 2: Lootboxes/Micro-transactions/Pay to win, gated off content from the base game into dlcs, many many re-used assets from Destiny 1
Hello Games: No Man's sky- sean murray nuff said
Ubisoft: Assassin's Creed Origin's horribly buggy release.
Eidos Games: Deus Ex: MKD- pre order scandal
I am only criticizing the initial releases, not the months later patches, fixes, expanded content redacted content etc. Personally a lot of these blatant cash grabs and rushed releases left a very poor taste in my mouth for a lot of these developers. I use to support Bioware and ubisoft wholeheartedly.
On the other hand CD Projekt Red released 16 separate micro dlcs for Free, any ones of these "AAA" developers would have slapped a sales tag on every single digital bit.
Not cd projekt red fault they are amazing.
Ubisoft gonna keep churning out rise and repeat Assassin's creeds until every major history time period has been done. Then they are going to pull an Activision, ripped off another game and set it in the "future". Assassin's black ops ghost Modern Future warfare..Creed.
A lot of game major and some minor game developers wet the bed with releases over the past 2 years. a Few exampled are:
Bioware: Mass Effect Andromeda- Agree or not with the "look how politically progressive we are" forcefully jammed into the game. The day one release was a buggy unfinished mess.
EA/Dice: Star Wars battlefront 2: Pay to win micro-transactions that resulted in a boycott and the most down voted AMA in reddit history.
Bungie/Activision: Destiny 2: Lootboxes/Micro-transactions/Pay to win, gated off content from the base game into dlcs, many many re-used assets from Destiny 1
Hello Games: No Man's sky- sean murray nuff said
Ubisoft: Assassin's Creed Origin's horribly buggy release.
Eidos Games: Deus Ex: MKD- pre order scandal
I am only criticizing the initial releases, not the months later patches, fixes, expanded content redacted content etc. Personally a lot of these blatant cash grabs and rushed releases left a very poor taste in my mouth for a lot of these developers. I use to support Bioware and ubisoft wholeheartedly.
On the other hand CD Projekt Red released 16 separate micro dlcs for Free, any ones of these "AAA" developers would have slapped a sales tag on every single digital bit.
Not cd projekt red fault they are amazing.
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It's really funny how they made three completely different combat systems, each one of them kind of crap in completely different way.
I bought W3 during the Steam Christmas sale and played a couple of hours. I liked it, however I also bought a new Samsung SSD and got a free copy of Assassin's Creed Origins with it. I've played around 100 hours so it would have been worth it if I'd bought it. The fact I've had 100 hours out of a free game makes it all that much sweeter.
That said, I can see myself returning to restart W3. It caught my attention and I only scratched the surface of it.
That said, I can see myself returning to restart W3. It caught my attention and I only scratched the surface of it.
I was *just* thinking about that today! I don't have a VR headset, but I would really like to try out Fallout4 and Skyrim VR.
Oh man...I hate settlements. lol.
Modding, though, that's part of why I love Bethesda games so much, and why I'm willing to overlook so many of their faults.
Hey, I just got word from a settlement....
While FO4 stepped back on character development it delivered on the world building. Just roaming the place, setting some hiking destinition - it worked out for me. Like most Bethesda open worlds. They just do it right.
It's really funny how they made three completely different combat systems, each one of them kind of crap in completely different way.
Agreed, witcher 2 by far the worse.
Jenner
I wish I was English like my hero Tj.
They're all bad, although I'm not sure which is label as 'worst'. I've tried all three and didn't finish a single one. Lol.
Agreed! Bethesda are the masters at that imho.
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Masters at jogging simulators.
In all seriousness though, I love Bethesda games. But 90% of the time I've spent in their games was aimless wandering, discovering and looking at stuff. Kinda like Elite.
I am really interested in what they are planning for us in Starfield.
I think the world building and quest design in W3 is absolutely brilliant. In contrast to many other open world games the world scale feels right. There are no 5 climate zones and 3 "capital" cities in an area about 20 km^2. In Valen there is on major city which is really large, a smaller city Oxenfurt, and many small villages. It feels realistic. The only other game that does this (maybe even a bit better) is Kingdom Come Deliverance.
Jenner
I wish I was English like my hero Tj.
Masters at jogging simulators.
In all seriousness though, I love Bethesda games. But 90% of the time I've spent in their games was aimless wandering, discovering and looking at stuff. Kinda like Elite.
I am really interested in what they are planning for us in Starfield.
Jogging and looking at stuff I'd wager.
Eh... the world in the Witcher games never grabbed me. I never felt the urge to see what was over the next hill, like I *always* do in Bethesda games.
CD Projekt red does fantastic quests and dialog, I'll grant. Better than Bethesda. But that's all.
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