General / Off-Topic Mental health services...rant incoming

[verminstar]

So...I need to share this little gem, maybe get some advice on how to move forward cos Im at a bit of a loss. So my daughter has been in and out of the system fer mowst of her life with her autism...it causes friction at school, misery at home and her mind is wrecked with depression because she cant control her triggers.

So...after being on the waiting list to see one of only two psychiatrists who are qualified to deal with her in the whole country fer one year and 8 months, she finally got to see the girl yesterday. She told me my daughter has aspergers...ye very clever ye fiigured that out doc Ive known since she was 5 when she was first diagnosed. Oh and shes depressed...aw ye think doc? Really? Tell ye what nothings getting past this one, shes quick.

Half an hour later of telling us what we already knew, we got bumped onto another waiting list and still...still they refuse to give her any medication. So I did something to intentionally provoke the system and told them I would teach my daughter how to self medicate. Obviously this is against the law and would mean social services are called in to investigate.

This was intentional on my part as this now means her case is pushed up the priority list to the top. It will cause me serious problems further down the line as I do have things in my life I dont want a light shone on, but Im desperate here. I gotta watch my daughter suffering every single day...she self harms because she hates herself and theres nothing I can do about it. Despite every effort on my part, still shes getting worse.

So I have to sink my own life in an effort to get her some help because the system just drags their feet fer years. That doctor we saw yesterday wasnt even aware my daughter had been diagnosed when she was 5 years old...it was on her notes but the ddc simply never bothered reading them and spent the entire appointment telling us stuff we already knew.

A year and 8 months...fer that? Obviously she called the police who were waiting fer me when I got home...they know my house well been there a few times. They asked if they could come in to talk with me...I refused and told them they could talk to me at the door while I smiled at the thought of them standing in the rain. My gf who is also in the police punched me on the arm fer that one, and invited them in. The big one asked me where I was getting the medication from...I told him his wife gave me them as a parting gift...another punch...harder this time.

She explained the situation fully while I had to leave the room before I said something really nasty. They sympathize with the very difficult scenario but...the law is the law and the one I threatened to break with my off the cuff remark is a fairly serious one which they have to take seriously. I told them I wasnt seriously gonna do that...even Im not that dumb...I did it very intentionally to provoke them into action as they were really dragging their feet and I was desperate and allowed my anger to overtake my brain.

So...where do I go from here? My daughter is in bits because the system has failed her repeatedly...none of the so called help she got actually helped and shes worse now than we we first applied to this avenue almost 3 years ago. A total and complete waste of time. Im spitting feathers and my girl cried herself to sleep last night.

The system is a joke...its not abusive like it used to be when I went through it, but its still a failure all the same. It was against my better judgement getting involved with them at all, I know all too well from personal experience just how nasty some of them can be, and how good they are at covering their tracks.

So what next? Well social services will investigate me ande me daughter gets bumped up the list...thats what happens next. How did it get to this point? Because the system is a failure just like I always said it was a failure...because they care more about meeting targets on some pie chart on a whiteboard than they are about actually helping people.

And people wonder why Im so angry at the system and so resentful against the law...why I cant think of a single reason /s

 

[jonluv]

Feel for you—- the “System” is there for it’s own benefit and rewards— Hemp Oil— 3 drops under tongue twice a day has been known to work wonders but I could not advise taking this as I am a retired Chemist not a Doctor

 

[verminstar]

Believe me I have thought about it...but its something I really dont want to do. She needs to be older and make that choicfe on her own, I simply wont force the issue while theres even the possibility of doing it the legal way. They could take the child away from me completely if that came to light and while I might not be the smartest guy in the world, Im not the dumbest either.

She got about two years left before I would even think about that option...but ye I have certainly thought about it. Me mam actually suggested the same thing months ago as she gets a regular order of the edibles fer her alzeimers...worked fer her cos shes driving again while she couldnt even remember she had a car before and regained a sizable chunk of dignity that was lost fer a few years.

Oh and I have multiple sclerosis so trust me when I say I know a lot more about it than most...I make my own edibles and have done fer almost a decade. Honestly I found the edibles far better than the oil...about the same strength but longer lasting and it helps with bowel control and stomach issues which are side effects from legal medications.

No...she needs to learn first hand how much of a failure the system is...no point me just telling her, now she knows I wasnt lying and now she knows the system is a failure. I count that as being one the few positives to be gained from this because trusting the system and putting any faith in it whatsoever is setting yerself up fer a fall. Now she knows that daddy was quite justified in having reservations about getting involved with them at all...she wont make that mistake again...her words, not mine and she now has the same level of faith in the system that I have...none at all.

But I wont push it...there are some levels I simply will not go to despite what I already know as fact. Theres just some things ye dont do and thats one of them ^

 

[ethelred]

Feel your pain massively. I do a bit of work here in Bristol for Bristol Autism Project, National Autistic Society and other Autistic charities, and the thing that gets me absolutely fuming is the "system" not giving people adequate help, to which they are entitled. They always give lame excuses and I appreciate [politics]that this ratbag Tory government[/politics] has massively cut funding, but this should not be at the expense of additional support to our children, especially when they are suffering.

You're right to feel aggrieved as I have also seen a lot of twee middle or upper class parents listened to and supported well by the system, but then a single mother basically told she is a bad parent for exactly the same issues (until we get involved and threaten legal action). Infuriating.

My experience tells me you have got to know how to exploit the system, and it is very much dependent on the capabilities and sympathy (and indeed conscientiousness) of the "system" person involved, be that paediatrician, a senco or some piece of work in the LEA.

Being combative can get you up the list, but given your circumstances you don't want, well, shall we say you don't want your gardening activities looked at in any detail do we?

I'm at a complete loss to how it works in NI, but have you considered speaking to the National Autistic Society for local advocacy groups, help and support? Ideally you want an advocate to be a posh woman of advancing years as they have a way of making stuff happen that you would not believe - much more effective than any other type I have ever met.

Finally there's the legal route. You'd best be off talking to citizens advice or what have you in NI (it's different there to here, of course) but you want to play the mental health card as much as possible.

Good luck!

 

[verminstar]

Feel your pain massively. I do a bit of work here in Bristol for Bristol Autism Project, National Autistic Society and other Autistic charities, and the thing that gets me absolutely fuming is the "system" not giving people adequate help, to which they are entitled. They always give lame excuses and I appreciate [politics]that this ratbag Tory government[/politics] has massively cut funding, but this should not be at the expense of additional support to our children, especially when they are suffering.

You're right to feel aggrieved as I have also seen a lot of twee middle or upper class parents listened to and supported well by the system, but then a single mother basically told she is a bad parent for exactly the same issues (until we get involved and threaten legal action). Infuriating.

My experience tells me you have got to know how to exploit the system, and it is very much dependent on the capabilities and sympathy (and indeed conscientiousness) of the "system" person involved, be that paediatrician, a senco or some piece of work in the LEA.

Being combative can get you up the list, but given your circumstances you don't want, well, shall we say you don't want your gardening activities looked at in any detail do we?

I'm at a complete loss to how it works in NI, but have you considered speaking to the National Autistic Society for local advocacy groups, help and support? Ideally you want an advocate to be a posh woman of advancing years as they have a way of making stuff happen that you would not believe - much more effective than any other type I have ever met.

Finally there's the legal route. You'd best be off talking to citizens advice or what have you in NI (it's different there to here, of course) but you want to play the mental health card as much as possible.

Good luck!

Firstly it’s not the gardening hobby...unless ye know exactly where to look, ye wouldn’t even know it was there at all. I’ve been caught a couple times already due to amateur setups...I no longer use amateur setups with even the roof heat shielded to prevent detection from helicopters.

It would surprise ye just how easy that is to do using very cheap materials and absolutely 100% effective.

No, there are other aspects I worry about a lot more than that including my own issues. I went through similar when I was younger and was in a respite home fer a month...I won’t go into details and just say it was very abusive and really just made it worse because nobody really understood what autism was back then. They didnt appear to care much either.

Yes the divide is real unfortunately...even through the experiences of her own friends who come from good areas and good families...they get a silver spoon treatment and the system bends over backwards fer them while the rest of us get nothing but lame excuses and year long waiting lists.

And then they wonder why we hate them so much.

I’ve tried the legal route and it’s just not working at all...this is my last and final attempt before I start seriously thinking alternatives. Consequences be damned cos the alternative is watching her suffer...what sorta father would that make me to willingly allow her to suffer when there are alternatives?

But...she’s 15 not 18 so that means I’ll be the one who suffers the most in the end ^

 

[lysan]

So...I need to share this little gem, maybe get some advice on how to move forward cos Im at a bit of a loss. So my daughter has been in and out of the system fer mowst of her life with her autism...it causes friction at school, misery at home and her mind is wrecked with depression because she cant control her triggers.

So...after being on the waiting list to see one of only two psychiatrists who are qualified to deal with her in the whole country fer one year and 8 months, she finally got to see the girl yesterday. She told me my daughter has aspergers...ye very clever ye fiigured that out doc Ive known since she was 5 when she was first diagnosed. Oh and shes depressed...aw ye think doc? Really? Tell ye what nothings getting past this one, shes quick.

Half an hour later of telling us what we already knew, we got bumped onto another waiting list and still...still they refuse to give her any medication. So I did something to intentionally provoke the system and told them I would teach my daughter how to self medicate. Obviously this is against the law and would mean social services are called in to investigate.

This was intentional on my part as this now means her case is pushed up the priority list to the top. It will cause me serious problems further down the line as I do have things in my life I dont want a light shone on, but Im desperate here. I gotta watch my daughter suffering every single day...she self harms because she hates herself and theres nothing I can do about it. Despite every effort on my part, still shes getting worse.

So I have to sink my own life in an effort to get her some help because the system just drags their feet fer years. That doctor we saw yesterday wasnt even aware my daughter had been diagnosed when she was 5 years old...it was on her notes but the ddc simply never bothered reading them and spent the entire appointment telling us stuff we already knew.

A year and 8 months...fer that? Obviously she called the police who were waiting fer me when I got home...they know my house well been there a few times. They asked if they could come in to talk with me...I refused and told them they could talk to me at the door while I smiled at the thought of them standing in the rain. My gf who is also in the police punched me on the arm fer that one, and invited them in. The big one asked me where I was getting the medication from...I told him his wife gave me them as a parting gift...another punch...harder this time.

She explained the situation fully while I had to leave the room before I said something really nasty. They sympathize with the very difficult scenario but...the law is the law and the one I threatened to break with my off the cuff remark is a fairly serious one which they have to take seriously. I told them I wasnt seriously gonna do that...even Im not that dumb...I did it very intentionally to provoke them into action as they were really dragging their feet and I was desperate and allowed my anger to overtake my brain.

So...where do I go from here? My daughter is in bits because the system has failed her repeatedly...none of the so called help she got actually helped and shes worse now than we we first applied to this avenue almost 3 years ago. A total and complete waste of time. Im spitting feathers and my girl cried herself to sleep last night.

The system is a joke...its not abusive like it used to be when I went through it, but its still a failure all the same. It was against my better judgement getting involved with them at all, I know all too well from personal experience just how nasty some of them can be, and how good they are at covering their tracks.

So what next? Well social services will investigate me ande me daughter gets bumped up the list...thats what happens next. How did it get to this point? Because the system is a failure just like I always said it was a failure...because they care more about meeting targets on some pie chart on a whiteboard than they are about actually helping people.

And people wonder why Im so angry at the system and so resentful against the law...why I cant think of a single reason /s

Sorry to hear you had to experience this, I know the system is horrible and only able to help people who got a broken arm or something easy to fix.
if you get really sick or you need more advanced support, they're just not able to help.

So what should you do? I don't know, I took my family out of the big city a long time ago, but I don't have the issues to deal with as in your situation.
Keep knocking on the doors of the system is the only way, but man this is just draining peoples energy and leave very little room for enjoyment.

I hope you find a way in the dark mate, I really do.

 

[Cmdr Delmonte[VR]]

If you're in the UK there is place in London that sells Hemp Oil / Cannabis oil legally, it's had the dodgy bit removed. My wife has Bronchitis - so we bought some as a spray. I don't know if it made any difference as we had so many things going wrong and have been let down repeatedly by the system for 3 years.... LONG LONG Story.... Anyway, we have some unused, FOC if you want to give it a try and completely legal.

 

[znôrt]

So what next? Well social services will investigate me ande me daughter gets bumped up the list...thats what happens next.

well, working as intended then, sit tight. only time will tell if this was a good move, it could go either way but i get you were desperate.

meanwhile, have you checked specific support groups and organizations? friends and family even? the 'other' system. they could help and provide support beyond the (ofc) necessary medical supervision. not a doctor, so not giving adivce, but afaik autism isn't something you cure, but a condition we have to learn to live with, medication being just a bandaid for extreme symptoms, not a long term solution anyway. information, getting to know others with the same condition, sharing experiences or finding other ways to socialize, relieve stress, build confidence and accepting the issue and trying to build the appropiate living condition might go a long way too. in that sense i find your daughters' loss of faith in the system, while justified, could be counterproductive without filling it with some other initiative, and why not some much needed joy of life. she has a place, she needs to find it. wish you both the best.

 

[Rob At Work]

In the early days they said smoking was good for you!

Be very careful of the substances you put into your own body, let alone those that you love unconditionally.

 

[Cmdr Delmonte[VR]]

Very true !

 

[ethelred]

Yes the divide is real unfortunately...even through the experiences of her own friends who come from good areas and good families...they get a silver spoon treatment and the system bends over backwards fer them while the rest of us get nothing but lame excuses and year long waiting lists.

And then they wonder why we hate them so much.

I’ve tried the legal route and it’s just not working at all...this is my last and final attempt before I start seriously thinking alternatives. Consequences be damned cos the alternative is watching her suffer...what sorta father would that make me to willingly allow her to suffer when there are alternatives?

But...she’s 15 not 18 so that means I’ll be the one who suffers the most in the end ^

There's no better feeling than throwing someone's own rules and procedures in their face. I see it as a game. Due to our government's propensity to help the rich get richer there's an unwritten rule in Mental Health services that basically means they are so cash strapped that they only help the most severe cases, or those that make the biggest stink.

From the sounds of it, your daughter got a diagnosis early (and btw the professionals shouldn't use "aspergers" any more - it's all Autism Spectrum Disorder now), but instead of helping you navigate what happens after that, they left it for you to figure out on your own, so the first thing is to make sure she is getting everything she is entitled to - especially an ECHP (previously a statement) and other support she might be entitled to. That's why I suggested contacting the autism charities as they'll be able to make sure the local authority is following the rules correctly. I don't know anything about your situation but if the psychiatrist is telling you things you already know, and that she should know, then I'd be looking up the complaints procedure and causing a stink.

The system will and does take the michael out of people so much, I do think that in addition to decreasing funding, the govt is giving them targets (unofficially and deniably of course) targets to stick within the budget, because guess what? A lot of local authorities don't offer the help you are entitled to unless you ask, and if you don't know what help to ask for, they won't help you. All for the sake of their budgets.

I see it as a game. I want to get the best for my kid and the system by making things over-complicated or by withholding information are going to try and do the minimum possible that they can get away with.

No.

The squeaky wheel gets the grease I'm afraid and you have to make enough noise - and noise by using their own complaints procedures often - to get the right results.

So my daughter also diagnosed early (about 3) and in reception class in mainstream school, but she's non-verbal, they are just babysitting her essentially. We want specialist education, the school panel etc agrees and so we get onto the council, after seeing schools etc. They delay, and delay and delay and then mid august before she's due to start Y1, they tell us that the specialist school we want her to go to is "full" and that they can't get her a place, so it's back to her normal primary school. Then we look into the legalities, and it turns out the legal definition of a full classroom is 35 kids in a class. In specialist there are usually 5 (10 at the absolute tops). So that excuse is rubbish, what they really mean is that they don't want to spend the money paying for specialist care for her. We use our free hour of legal advice to speak to an education lawyer, she contacts the council, and surprise surprise we get a specialist place at half term. It's not in the same league as your situation, but it does show how they do lie and quite unashamedly, to make things harder for you and easier for them.

So, don't listen to their lies, don't accept their excuses and play their own game, using their own procedures to troll them until you get what you want.

 

[verminstar]

In the early days they said smoking was good for you!

Be very careful of the substances you put into your own body, let alone those that you love unconditionally.

They also claimed that it kills people...its medically impossible to overdose on weed...never happened in all of recorded history. So that means the government lied and are still lying even after being handed a dozen scientific reports stating that much of the government propaganda was a pure fabrication written by doctors who werent even properly qualified.

I know the dangers and risks a lot better than ye think...Ive spent years educating meself and theres likely very few who can tell me something I dont know about it. Lets just say Im very good at what I do and leave it at that.

However...shes 15 and that means its not that simple...that means serious consequences that I cant resist. I want to go down the legal road, but every single time we try, we hit a brick wall and the situation gets worse. This has been an ongoing process fer years...multiple years...it started when she was reported as being suicidal...to see a shrink, 9 months waiting time...suicidal...9 months...hmm

That didnt help and we were referred to a specialist...over a year waiting time...she just told me what we already knew...another dead end basically. Speak to those from nice areas and its all sunshine and roses, no bother at all...live on an estate and yer pondscum to them. Im used to it...lived with it, but my wee girl isnt used to it and its hitting her a lot harder than its hitting me.

So...my choices are shrinking and I dont see a way forward on the legal route, and nothing but huge potential loss and pain going down any other route. I hate the law...but most of all I hate those who make them. If it their kid, I guarantee they wouldnt face even half the issues anyone else faces. If it was your kid and ye had to watch them suffer day in day out because the legal option wasnt working...what would you do then if there was a working solution that just happened to be illegal fer very dubious and questionable reasons?

Its so easy to be judged by those who have never had to experience it themselves. Thanks fer the replies guys and sorry if I sound confrontational...its how I deal with things and right about now, Im more than ready to go pick a fight in town when the pubs throw them out...just to help me feel better...Im actually shaking with anger...I aint been this angry in a long long time ^

 

[Rob At Work]

don't think you are the only one, that would be a big mistake. You are responsible for this child, you should act like it, I trust you see that a hallucinogenic drug (however mild) is not a permanent solution and WILL in the end make the problem worse and/or introduce other issues.

 

[Zetta]

don't think you are the only one, that would be a big mistake. You are responsible for this child, you should act like it, I trust you see that a hallucinogenic drug (however mild) is not a permanent solution and WILL in the end make the problem worse and/or introduce other issues.

Everything has its risk though. Is it being responsible giving your child legal anti-depressives when we now know they can contribute to dementia?
Saying it WILL cause the problem to worsen or add other issues sounds like proper anti-cannabis scaremongering.

 

[jonluv]

don't think you are the only one, that would be a big mistake. You are responsible for this child, you should act like it, I trust you see that a hallucinogenic drug (however mild) is not a permanent solution and WILL in the end make the problem worse and/or introduce other issues.

I hope you you do not think Hemp Oil is an hallucinogenic drug —- it’s chemical make up is in no way similar to Cannabis

 

[verminstar]

don't think you are the only one, that would be a big mistake. You are responsible for this child, you should act like it, I trust you see that a hallucinogenic drug (however mild) is not a permanent solution and WILL in the end make the problem worse and/or introduce other issues.

There are currently zero strains that give an hallucination effect...none whatsoever. That’s a myth and a lie that was never true to begin with.

The fact ye even think that tells me ye really don’t know very much about it. Anyone who knows anything about it will confirm that...or ye can tell me what the strain is and I’ll get back to ye in half an hour exactly what that strain does and where it originally cloned from as almost all seeds sold are from cloned parentage.

Its not even a mild effect...its zero effect and always has been. Whats yer source btw? Where did ye hear that from? The government? If ye genuinely believe what is a lie, then its fairly safe to assume there really is nothing ye can tell me that I dont already know.

Even skunk doesnt do that and thats the strongest strain I know off. I suggest ye read up on some facts...might surprise ye what ye learn or at the very least, dispel this myth about what it actually does, not what ye think it does ^

 

[Ian Skippy]

As an actually trained clinical neuropsychologists (yeah, a real internet expert here! ) I'll just say this: the reason cannabis isn't used is primarily because there is almost no scientific knowledge about its effects on people with autism. The reason there is no knowledge is not because there is no reason to study it, but because it is a) illegal in most countries, and b) impossible to get funding to study it. Nevertheless, there is a growing body of literature suggesting cannabidiol (or CBD) has many beneficial health effects for people with a variety of mental disorders, whereas tetrahydrocannabinol (or THC) is more problematic. While having kids smoke cannabis is obviously a terrible idea (I am sure I dont need to explain the health risks of smoking...), I myself would be far more comfortable with kids eating food with added CBD than using ritalin, which is basically a form of amphetamine. For adults where cannabis is legal P), from a medical point of view weed with (very) low THC doses is preferred. Which is problematic given the tendency to grow ever stronger strains.

I am obviously not advocating for or against anything, but I do feel it is important to keep in mind that the distinction between legal medication and illegal drugs is a cultural and legal one, not a medical or scientific one. Just my 2c.

 

[Ian Skippy]

There are currently zero strains that give an hallucination effect...none whatsoever. That’s a myth and a lie that was never true to begin with.

The fact ye even think that tells me ye really don’t know very much about it. Anyone who knows anything about it will confirm that...or ye can tell me what the strain is and I’ll get back to ye in half an hour exactly what that strain does and where it originally cloned from as almost all seeds sold are from cloned parentage.

Many people use terms such as 'hallucinogenic' and 'psychotropic' etc interchangeably, as a more fancy alternative to 'wacky stuff'. There is some literature suggesting a link between schizophrenia and cannabis, although causality is unclear. Originally it was assumed cannabis could trigger psychotic episodes, but more recent studies suggest people suffering schizophrenia may simply self-medicate to prevent some of the side effects of anti-psychotics. While the modern anti-psychotics are a lot better (seroquel and such), typical anti-psychotics have disastrous and inevitable effects on the central nervous system after prolonged use.

Its cheaper though (+-8 euro versus 400 euro per month, so with 50 patients thats 400 versus 20.000 euro, or an annual saving of a quarter million for a rural facility), so where I did my internship they used it a lot to pacify the patients in the geriatric ward. Had to raise hell to stop the doctor from using it as a go-to drug, which was absurd with me being a simple intern.

 

[Pyrotiger]

I gave up on doctors when I lived in NI/Ulster/Whatever. They were awful and were not always confidential - passing on information that led the police to believe their harassment programme was bearing fruit. My aunt died in agony when they sent her home with an undiagnised fracture. Idiots. And God complexes? You bet.

Mental illness - even worse. If you think that the lion's share of funding goes East of the Bann, which is precious little, think how even less than that can maintain the Western areas. England has seen services been reduced - we never had anything to start with!

OP you have my sympathies in a tough time.

 

[Gortron]

So...I need to share this little gem, maybe get some advice on how to move forward cos Im at a bit of a loss. So my daughter has been in and out of the system fer mowst of her life with her autism...it causes friction at school, misery at home and her mind is wrecked with depression because she cant control her triggers.

So...after being on the waiting list to see one of only two psychiatrists who are qualified to deal with her in the whole country fer one year and 8 months, she finally got to see the girl yesterday. She told me my daughter has aspergers...ye very clever ye fiigured that out doc Ive known since she was 5 when she was first diagnosed. Oh and shes depressed...aw ye think doc? Really? Tell ye what nothings getting past this one, shes quick.

Half an hour later of telling us what we already knew, we got bumped onto another waiting list and still...still they refuse to give her any medication. So I did something to intentionally provoke the system and told them I would teach my daughter how to self medicate. Obviously this is against the law and would mean social services are called in to investigate.

This was intentional on my part as this now means her case is pushed up the priority list to the top. It will cause me serious problems further down the line as I do have things in my life I dont want a light shone on, but Im desperate here. I gotta watch my daughter suffering every single day...she self harms because she hates herself and theres nothing I can do about it. Despite every effort on my part, still shes getting worse.

So I have to sink my own life in an effort to get her some help because the system just drags their feet fer years. That doctor we saw yesterday wasnt even aware my daughter had been diagnosed when she was 5 years old...it was on her notes but the ddc simply never bothered reading them and spent the entire appointment telling us stuff we already knew.

A year and 8 months...fer that? Obviously she called the police who were waiting fer me when I got home...they know my house well been there a few times. They asked if they could come in to talk with me...I refused and told them they could talk to me at the door while I smiled at the thought of them standing in the rain. My gf who is also in the police punched me on the arm fer that one, and invited them in. The big one asked me where I was getting the medication from...I told him his wife gave me them as a parting gift...another punch...harder this time.

She explained the situation fully while I had to leave the room before I said something really nasty. They sympathize with the very difficult scenario but...the law is the law and the one I threatened to break with my off the cuff remark is a fairly serious one which they have to take seriously. I told them I wasnt seriously gonna do that...even Im not that dumb...I did it very intentionally to provoke them into action as they were really dragging their feet and I was desperate and allowed my anger to overtake my brain.

So...where do I go from here? My daughter is in bits because the system has failed her repeatedly...none of the so called help she got actually helped and shes worse now than we we first applied to this avenue almost 3 years ago. A total and complete waste of time. Im spitting feathers and my girl cried herself to sleep last night.

The system is a joke...its not abusive like it used to be when I went through it, but its still a failure all the same. It was against my better judgement getting involved with them at all, I know all too well from personal experience just how nasty some of them can be, and how good they are at covering their tracks.

So what next? Well social services will investigate me ande me daughter gets bumped up the list...thats what happens next. How did it get to this point? Because the system is a failure just like I always said it was a failure...because they care more about meeting targets on some pie chart on a whiteboard than they are about actually helping people.

And people wonder why Im so angry at the system and so resentful against the law...why I cant think of a single reason /s

Verm this sort of thing is disgusting. Not what you did btw, I understand that; but that people have to do things like you did to try and get bumped up the list.

I know this is going into 'P' word territory but I'm not sure it is the people that we elect into power that are fully responsible for 'the systems' or 'law'. That isn't to say I think some outside force is responsible but look what has happened with about the 'Windrush Generation'. People invited to the Island of Great Britain as citizens of the former Empire in the 1950s were told to 'leave' by jobs worth civil servants in 2018. Labour started it; Tories gladly carried it out and now they all blame each-other.