If someone from Fdev streams themselves unlocking all the Guardian tech. I will eat my eye patch.

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Surely FD wont just fiddle a few numbers? They’ll change
gameplay to add some fun, right?

Otherwise, what’s the point?

Nah, don’t worry only joking. :D Can’t see fun being added anytime soon. :(
 
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Wow and there you go, all snidey again and wronmg again in every instance but we'll break it down.
Wow, you call that snidey. I call that truth mate.

Utter trash to suggest not using boring passengers missions which are not designed to take YOU to pretty places?
Tourist passanger missions are 100% designed to take you to pretty places. You have no idea what you are talking a

We're talking about how crap passenger missions are where I pointed out that it's nothing but J. You brought up sight seeing which is not the goal of passenger missions.
Tourist passanger missions are 100% percent about sight seeing.

So passenger missions only exist to give you nice places to go do they?
That is not what I said. You said all passanger missions are boring and tedious. I disagreed and told you why I like some passanger missions. Not once did I say that they were all brilliant.

Talk about clueless.
Yes you are mate. The fact that you need to be dishonest to prove a point. Seems to be a regular theme you have going on there.

You don't fly much to know that each and every time you get scanned is when you're just about to enter the letterbox.
Totally incorrect. Showing more ignorance I see.

You can boost at that point and you're safe. Like I said, it's not smuggling when you have 0.00000!% chance of getting caught.
And risk pancakeing into the station or a ship in the way. Not the best way to do it.

PP missions are generated to push the borders of other powers are they not?
There are no powerplay missions

They don't flip systems?
Power play has nothing to do with flipping systems unless you are changing the power which has very little effect on the BGS or the system or the faction in power.

I'm clueless because I left off the most boring part of the BGS which is making it make different missions? All of which are boring go A - B and change the price of commodities! Wow - and what point is there of changing prices - so you can get more useless money - what are you going to do with it, Max - buy another ship?
I do whatever the hell I want with my credits. You can say the same about any game. The Witcher 3: Oh what are you gonna do with that new armour/sword etc, just kill more creatures.
You arguments are sad as they do not stand up to scrutiny. As to the variety of missions, they are no different to most other games. Not saying they can't be improved. Not saying none of it can be improved, which is exactly what they intend to do in Beyond and beyond Beyond.

So the BGS can change text, change the price of things slightly, give different missions.

All of that can be done 100 times quicker just by visiting another system already in the state you want it to be in.
To a degree yes, but that is boring. I prefer to have some goals in my game time. Just because it is possible, doesn't mean you should do it. Sounds like you like to make the game worse for yourself Jex.

Your choice of course.
 
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And that Ladies and Gentlemen, is the sound of someone trying to eat the cake.

Really ?.

I'd say the honest and play tested opinion of someone who enjoyed the first version and will probably enjoy the second version.

I doubt many posters who find the data requirement too much now will be happy about the cargo, mat, obelisk or travel requirements of guardian unlocks V2. For me it'll be easier than the unlocks I've already done and an improvement however it actually turns out post rebalance.

The main difference is just one of outlook, in that my glass is half full.
 
Too much cool aid, is bad for you anyway.

How could that ever apply to someone willing to disagree ?, it could be far more accurately levelled at people simply repeating a gripe they read about without ever having tried any unlocks in the first place.
 

Jex =TE=

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Wow, you call that snidey. I call that truth mate.


Tourist passanger missions are 100% designed to take you to pretty places. You have no idea what you are talking a


Tourist passanger missions are 100% percent about sight seeing.


That is not what I said. You said all passanger missions are boring and tedious. I disagreed and told you why I like some passanger missions. Not once did I say that they were all brilliant.


Yes you are mate. The fact that you need to be dishonest to prove a point. Seems to be a regular theme you have going on there.


Totally incorrect. Showing more ignorance I see.


And risk pancakeing into the station or a ship in the way. Not the best way to do it.


There are no powerplay missions


Power play has nothing to do with flipping systems unless you are changing the power which has very little effect on the BGS or the system or the faction in power.


I do whatever the hell I want with my credits. You can say the same about any game. The Witcher 3: Oh what are you gonna do with that new armour/sword etc, just kill more creatures.
You arguments are sad as they do not stand up to scrutiny. As to the variety of missions, they are no different to most other games. Not saying they can't be improved. Not saying none of it can be improved, which is exactly what they intend to do in Beyond and beyond Beyond.


To a degree yes, but that is boring. I prefer to have some goals in my game time. Just because it is possible, doesn't mean you should do it. Sounds like you like to make the game worse for yourself Jex.

Your choice of course.

Oh look, more snidey comments from someone I'll once again need to show where they are wrong.

Wow, you call that snidey. I call that truth mate.


That's snidey and debateable at the same time!

Tourist passanger missions are 100% designed to take you to pretty places. You have no idea what you are talking a

No they're not, they're about making money which is why nobody is posting up screen shots of all these ncei spots they visit but are, in fact, indisputable fact btw, making posts complaining the payouts dropped off so pointless doing them and they're boring to boot. The point of the missions is once again, A- B driving. Just because a few of them want to "sight see" (a few squares on a console btw), does not make the point of them sightseeing.

So you're stating that most passengers missions are sight seeing missions are you?

Yes you are mate. The fact that you need to be dishonest to prove a point. Seems to be a regular theme you have going on there.

I haven't been dishonest one bit lol.

Totally incorrect. Showing more ignorance I see.

OK so 99% of the time it's there so you're arguing for the 1% times it's not at the letterbox? Now who's being dishonest?

There are no powerplay missions

There's no delivery missions??? That's odd because it was one of the reasons Instant Ship Transfer would have broken the game. Maybe they took them out.

How many hours have you played powerplay for, again?

Power play has nothing to do with flipping systems unless you are changing the power which has very little effect on the BGS or the system or the faction in power.

Oh ok so unless you're changing a power when they do flip systems which is the entire point of powerplay. Everything has very little effect on the BGS! So now you're arguing that the stuff that supports your argument is relevant but when it goes against your argument "it hardly affects the BGS"

Make up your mind!

I do whatever the hell I want with my credits. You can say the same about any game. The Witcher 3: Oh what are you gonna do with that new armour/sword etc, just kill more creatures.
You arguments are sad as they do not stand up to scrutiny. As to the variety of missions, they are no different to most other games. Not saying they can't be improved. Not saying none of it can be improved, which is exactly what they intend to do in Beyond and beyond Beyond.

Where did I say you couldn't do what you want? What am I going to do with that new sword and armour?

Take on harder opponents that don't exist in ED, that's what giving them a point unlike pointless ENG's.

So yes, my arguments stand up to scrutiny and quite effectively too since I'm able to show the error in yours and didn't need to throw in personal attacks either. As to defending the variety of incredibly poor missions design, Max, you are wrong again. Even the Devs say you're wrong because they're now having to work on Beyond.

To a degree yes, but that is boring. I prefer to have some goals in my game time. Just because it is possible, doesn't mean you should do it. Sounds like you like to make the game worse for yourself Jex.

Your choice of course.

And we're full circle.... so passenger missions are fun, are they? Pressing J 300 times is really fullfilling and enjoyable?
 
Oh look, more snidey comments from someone I'll once again need to show where they are wrong.

That's snidey and debateable at the same time!
What was snidey about that.

No they're not, they're about making money which is why nobody is posting up screen shots of all these ncei spots they visit but are, in fact, indisputable fact btw, making posts complaining the payouts dropped off so pointless doing them and they're boring to boot. The point of the missions is once again, A- B driving. Just because a few of them want to "sight see" (a few squares on a console btw), does not make the point of them sightseeing.
Wow man. They are about whatever you want out of them. I use them to see some amazing sights in the game. The credits are just an added bonus. Some use them just to accrue credits. They are a tool, use it how you want to.

So you're stating that most passengers missions are sight seeing missions are you?
I never once stated that.

I haven't been dishonest one bit lol.
Look above. That is twice that you have been dishonest. Or three times if you include this.

OK so 99% of the time it's there so you're arguing for the 1% times it's not at the letterbox? Now who's being dishonest?
Where are your statisitics to back this up? No, it isn't 1% of the time.

There's no delivery missions??? That's odd because it was one of the reasons Instant Ship Transfer would have broken the game. Maybe they took them out.
What are you talking about. There are no powerplay delivery missions. There are powerplay community goal lookalikes and that's about it which involve combat an delivery.

How many hours have you played powerplay for, again?
Very little as it is a total grind which I don't participate in. Doing constant CG's is not my idea of fun.

Oh ok so unless you're changing a power when they do flip systems which is the entire point of powerplay. Everything has very little effect on the BGS! So now you're arguing that the stuff that supports your argument is relevant but when it goes against your argument "it hardly affects the BGS" Make up your mind!
You started talking about powerplay. I never talked about it once. I am talking about factions and the BGS. You seem to be confusing the two.

Where did I say you couldn't do what you want? What am I going to do with that new sword and armour?
You asked me what I was gonna spend my credits on. I replied with whatever I want to.

Take on harder opponents that don't exist in ED, that's what giving them a point unlike pointless ENG's.
I never once said that wasn't an issue. If you had bothered to actually read my posts you would see that I do not like the powercreep that Engineers has which I hope gets sorted one way or another. But engineers is all about different builds, some have long range, some have short range, some have efficient and some have overcharged weapons. And there are more options with the other modules. It's all about making your ship yours and different everyone elses. Even with the fixed amount in the new engineers I doub't that many have the exact same ships.

Its about customisation. Which I like. What I don't like is the huge amount of extra power they give. Hence the reason why all my weapons and defence are at a maximim of grade 3. I don't want the game to be easy. You have a choice on what you do and how you go about it.

So yes, my arguments stand up to scrutiny and quite effectively too since I'm able to show the error in yours and didn't need to throw in personal attacks either. As to defending the variety of incredibly poor missions design, Max, you are wrong again. Even the Devs say you're wrong because they're now having to work on Beyond.
No they don't. You talk about personal attacks when you out and out lie Jex. Even in the above there are more lies. I am not defending anything or the variety of missions.

And we're full circle.... so passenger missions are fun, are they? Pressing J 300 times is really fullfilling and enjoyable?
I have never pressed J 300 times on any single passanger mission that I have ever done. Again more lies. Why do you have to make stuff up all the time.
 
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As a suggestion, how about you guys stop doing the "unlock through new grind" method all the time? I miss the good old times when it was just about your account at the Bank of Zaonce, and not handing in some arbitrary MacGuffins to some guy who mysteriously has access to gigantic stockpiles of the some specific tech, yet won't sell to anyone who doesn't deliver MacGuffins first - and the g interstellar superpowers are sitting on their hands, watching this all unfold instead of going in like "dude, we requisition that tech, if you disagree you can discuss this with the Farragut outside"...

Well said. The implementation of Guardian tech doesn't even make any sense.

I mean...18 macguffin trips, or Humanity is Toast...yeah, I don't think that's how that plays out. More like "Put the tech on the aforementioned Farragut. No, we aren't ASKING you."
 
Could we get back to topic?
Which was bread and cake if I remember correctly.

In other words: Back to bread. By the way, That's not a pop song or album. Which is failure in itself.
 
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Jex =TE=

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What was snidey about that.

I can't help you there.

Originally Posted by Jex =TE= View Post (Source)
No they're not, they're about making money which is why nobody is posting up screen shots of all these ncei spots they visit but are, in fact, indisputable fact btw, making posts complaining the payouts dropped off so pointless doing them and they're boring to boot. The point of the missions is once again, A- B driving. Just because a few of them want to "sight see" (a few squares on a console btw), does not make the point of them sightseeing.
Wow man. They are about whatever you want out of them. I use them to see some amazing sights in the game. The credits are just an added bonus. Some use them just to accrue credits. They are a tool, use it how you want to.

Originally Posted by Jex =TE= View Post (Source)
So you're stating that most passengers missions are sight seeing missions are you?

I never once stated that.

Yes you did, actually...
YOU WROTE: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...my-eye-patch?p=6666017&viewfull=1#post6666017

Right. So how do I find these nice spots without tourist missions. That is there primary purpose. It what they are there for.

Yeah we're done here.
 
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