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I skipped over the last 6 or 7 pages since my last post. What'd I miss?
SterlingMH, did you git gud yet?
SterlingMH, did you git gud yet?
Do Solo/ Co-op Players have a Future in Elite?
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Except you just pulled that out your rear. If your bored there is a couple gazillion hours of youtube vids with high end ships fighting each other.
But making stuff up is cool too I guess.
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Why do people insist on believing in the A-rated, fully engineered boogeyman?
I get it that some folks don't have the reaction time of others, be it age or disability. That's fine. But to espouse that for the wider player base open is only for some class of mythical apex predator is just ridiculous.
There are lots of chumps in Open - me included.
What kinds of heroines are you addicted to? I'm looking forward to Captain Marvel myself.
More relevant to your post point, I think EVE migrants may be sorely disappointed if they're looking for Eve-in-cockpits, not because it's a bad idea of itself (really if EVE had had a cockpit-based flight model I'd still probably be playing it), but because Elite build paradigms and systems aren't going to fit much of what they want into what's here or is possible, even dismissing FD's execution abilities.
There's only so much revamping you can to to a 1953 Morris Minor before you hit insurmountable limitations. It's never gonna be a main battle tank or a space shuttle or an ocean liner no matter how much work you put in.
They are also many chumps not in Open...me included!
And if you believe that, you'll believe anything.
All of that.
All time heroine has to be Judge Cassandra Anderson, although that Captain Marvel is looking rather stylish.
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All of that.
All time heroine has to be Judge Cassandra Anderson, although that Captain Marvel is looking rather stylish.
Oooo Anderson, I forgot how much of a badass she is, plus extra points for not wearing useless B-spec armour (AKA chainmail bikini). Been a long long time since I've been to MegaCity One tho. As a desperate attempt to keep this post relevant to Elite I've always considered the SysAuth and such to be an extension of Judge-style law enforcement. Death for parking violations really fits that absolutist authoritarian tone.
Chuckle, I can see that. I'm sure there are many parallels that can be drawn between those pages and the world of Elite. It's been a huge influence of mine from childhood.
I've got a good idea who Chief Judge Cal would be.
The problem is the precedent has been set that at any time regardless of what has been said in the past we reserve the right to move content to open.
What does amuse me is that I suspect that the 5C players are actually dropping out of open to PP to their advantage so the move of PP is to stop the exploitation of solo by open players.
Solo players and open players are all just players. You're free to log into whatever more you want whenever you want. It's not like save files are bound to a specific mode.
Firstly, nothing was said in the past promising they would not change the content of the game - that would be a ludicrous thing to say. If you're referring to "all modes are equal", this was not what was said, it's been miss-remembered and repeated so many times it's become "fact".
Secondly, why shouldn't the developer of a game with a vested interest in making it better (to ultimately make money to support their business) change things which aren't working in an effort to improve them. I think they should. I think you can't help but upset a few people doing this, because some people just don't like change and/or cannot look past their own concerns to consider the bigger picture. Power play isn't working as intended and if making it open-only might help, then it's worth giving it a go.
Within power play I suspect there are roughly two types of players involved in power play outside of open, there are people (ab)using the system to gain credits and special weapons (as I did) and there are those who actually support a faction as intended, but want to do it "the easy way". I suspect the former group outnumbers the latter 10 to 1, or more. I don't think either group have any grounds for complaint. The first lot ought to have realised they were (ab)using the system (I did, but then I just want to do my own thing most of the time so didn't really care) and the second lot must know the same, that they have been "getting away with it" and so with the prospect of this coming to an end they grab pitchforks and incite a riot.
Just because you could do something in the past, doesn't mean it was the right thing to do.
FD's approach to the way open players cheat PP by removing content from solo players is half-baked. FD has to make PP work for both solo and open and there must be a better way to do this rather than make solo players feel more left out than they already do.
Yeah, they make all the modules that people like to deliver truck loads of vouchers for in solo available at the tech brokers instead - PvE players get shiny modules - the rest of the playerbase can PvP without C&P reprisal - problems solved!
Um...however if you want to powerplay and affect the BGS by doing so...you'll be free to only log into Open?
I don't get your logic.
His point is that you cant divide the community into two groups. People can switch modes, people arent tied to red or blue shirts. So it makes no sense to say "open players keep logging into Solo' or 'solo players keep logging into open'; its just people playing in multiple modes.
Btw, didnt dare to ask earlier: were you rooting for manchester or chelsea?
Exactly.
BGS? You realize that Sandro specifically said open-only is exclusively being considered for powerplay, right?
Ironically that's not...
...what that says. Help me understand why you're talking about two different things.
So redesign Powerplay. Don't just throw it at a wall, and created a pen for PvPer's. It treats them like sheep, won't solve anything and is wholly the wrong course of action to take.
Mind boggling. Choosing the correct course of action, or even one that would raise efficacy of a feature in any way hasn't been done often. If you ask around (which I have over a long period of time) the Ship Delivery system is widely regarded as the single example of when FD delivered something as expected, and there were reasons for that that have not been repeated here. In continuing with this course of action, we are indeed repeating the mistakes of the past, not avoiding them.
It's getting to be a little purposefully obtuse to be honest. I feel FD needs to make a decision either way and cross their fingers soon.
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EVE does not have cockpits?
Are they all flying around with outside views, or just nothing in front of them?
Either way, I would never be able to play it.
Eve is a management control only type game, you set things in motion via (for want of a better description) selections on charts/panels/windows, and off you go. Outside views only.
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