General / Off-Topic I have a fairly dumb question about cider.

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Hi guys.

I love root beer. But I love cider even more. (Thatcher's Gold being my favourite)

I never really thought about it, but the different alcoholic commodities in the ED market got me thinking...

Is cider a beer, wine or spirit?

I've looked on the Web as a whole, but the question seems to only generate debate.

Was wondering if any of you guys might have an answer?

Is cider one of the three above, or is it its own thing?
 

JonesTheFilm

JonesTheFilm
Un1k0rn said:
Hi guys.

I love root beer. But I love cider even more. (Thatcher's Gold being my favourite)

I never really thought about it, but the different alcoholic commodities in the ED market got me thinking...

Is cider a beer, wine or spirit?

I've looked on the Web as a whole, but the question seems to only generate debate.

Was wondering if any of you guys might have an answer?

Is cider one of the three above, or is it its own thing?
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It's its own thing, although it's probably closest to a wine.

Beer & spirits need a number of ingredients, you can make cider just from apples without adding anything else (the yeast required for fermentation exists in the apple skins). I don't know much about wine production but it's possible that similar is true of grapes, (maybe someone more knowledgable can clarify that).

[edit: PS I like Thatchers, but my favourite is Westons]
 
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Para Handy

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Oh Lord - hazy memories of Flora Day, staggering out of the Blue Anchor and falling into the roadside stream as the Furry Dance goes past. Stories of dead rats and lead pipes in their scrumpy never deterred us. (Can't remember what the scrumpy was called - well not a non-swearword version anyway - their own beer was "Spingo". ;) )


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(P.S. This is Helston in Cornwall for the uninformed. ;) )


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JonesTheFilm said:
It's its own thing, although it's probably closest to a wine.

Beer & spirits need a number of ingredients, you can make cider just from apples without adding anything else (the yeast required for fermentation exists in the apple skins). I don't know much about wine production but it's possible that similar is true of grapes, (maybe someone more knowledgable can clarify that).

[edit: PS I like Thatchers, but my favourite is Westons]
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In that case, I'm going to start shipping wine in Elite.
 

Goose4291

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Goose4291
I think as CAMRA now run cider stands at their festivals (three tables worth at GBBF last time I was there) its regarded (at least by ale drinkers) as a beer.
 

JonesTheFilm

JonesTheFilm
Chris Simon said:
Yeah, it's a fermented fizzy fruit juice. So I think the closest comparison would be... Apple champagne?
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Perry, which is cider made with pears instead of apples, is often bottled and marketed almost more as a sparkling wine. The famous example of this is the twee drink Babycham that was popular in the 70s & 80s. I haven't seen it for ages though so I don't know if it still exists.
 

ethelred

ethelred
Goose4291 said:
I think as CAMRA now run cider stands at their festivals (three tables worth at GBBF last time I was there) its regarded (at least by ale drinkers) as a beer.
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Don't tell the people here in Bristol that cider is a beer, there'll be a riot.

If you ever visit this fair city, and like cider make sure you go to the Cori Tap
 

Hell Razor5543

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The best cider I ever tasted (I could only manage a 1/2 pint before I would fall over) was some scrumpy cider from Chestnut Farm near to Burnham on Sea (J22, M5, if my memory is correct). Less that £10 for 5 pints, dead flies and all (and they died happy!), and with a bite that would take the skin off your teeth!
 
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Winterwalker

Winterwalker
Henry Westons Special Reserve? 3 bottles of that and you're anybody's (8.2%). Also discovered Pink Lady (made in Thornbury) at a beer festival last year, a quaffing cider if I ever saw one, really nice.

Too many cider stories to tell really - always worse than stories with beer in the title, for some reason - but I like it made in a shandy too.
 

Asp Explorer

Asp Explorer
Hazy memories of White Ace cider at 99p a litre.

Awful stuff.

Thing about living in the US is that there is absolutely no good cider. It's all absolutely awful stuff - either too sweet or obviously artificially flavoured. Even the Strongbow "imports" taste like bubblegum :(
 

Hell Razor5543

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My Great Grandfather inventing a catch-up drink for when he arrived late at a party, and everybody else was nicely merry. It is deceptively simple to make, and very easy (and dangerous!) to misjudge the amount needed. Get it right and you will catch up within ten minutes. Get it wrong and you could overshoot by a week!

Start off with a 1/2 pint glass. Add one to four shots (the quantity depends on how much catching up you require) of the darkest rum you can find (the stuff you need to dig out of the jar with a crowbar). Top off with a good dry cider. Enjoy "The Boothby Fogcutter"!

Disclaimer. I will accept no responsibility for any actions those who imbibe this drink. There are family tales as to what can go wrong. Please also be aware that this is only a catch-up drink, and should not be drunk later on in the party, otherwise you will end up VERY drunk. The following link connects to a post by my cousin;

http://bbboblog.blogspot.co.uk/2007/03/boothby-fogcutter.html

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!!
 
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Asp Explorer

Asp Explorer
Oh - that reminds me of Turboshandies!

Pint glass, two shots vodka, add bottle of Smirnoff Ice and top up with the hardest lager they've got on tap.
 
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