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Don´t get me back to this part, Luniticisi...
I have a Rift. That´s why there is something very transparent for me.
In SC you barley can turn around without serious framerate drops without VR.
So here we go again...
Man...milk is running out of my nose..
I have a Rift. That´s why there is something very transparent for me.
In SC you barley can turn around without serious framerate drops without VR.
So here we go again...
Man...milk is running out of my nose..
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Ever heard of 'facts' that are invented or things taken out of context and massaged to represent someone's POV?
Stop arguing that people are here to argue factual information. Most are here to push their agenda and feelings.
Which is fine. Just need to admit that.
One problem is that the moment someone says anything, one way or another about ED this happens.
...Quick, someone said something bad about Elite Dangerous ....
...Quick, someone said something good about Elite Dangerous ....
It's a never ending round-about.
My feeling is that ED is far from dying, But that is just my opinion.
The OP has their circle of friends that is falling away from ED, so his perspective is skewed in that direction.
The problem with being in 'Circles' (and we are all guilty of this) is that it can often make people believe that because their 'Circle' believes one thing, everyone must obviously believe the same thing too, which is obviously not true.
Remember this, Not everyone thinks the same as you and your friends.
...Quick, someone said something bad about Elite Dangerous ....
...Quick, someone said something good about Elite Dangerous ....
It's a never ending round-about.
My feeling is that ED is far from dying, But that is just my opinion.
The OP has their circle of friends that is falling away from ED, so his perspective is skewed in that direction.
The problem with being in 'Circles' (and we are all guilty of this) is that it can often make people believe that because their 'Circle' believes one thing, everyone must obviously believe the same thing too, which is obviously not true.
Remember this, Not everyone thinks the same as you and your friends.
Whatever happened after Horizons, it hit the game development pace very hard. Or they had all already done and were releasing it in parts.
2 years ago on the elite meet in cologne we have seen accretions disks and all this stuff - Nothing has made it into the game yet.
I have some hopes, but I think that we are not Talking About a bright future of this game we all love(d).
2 years ago on the elite meet in cologne we have seen accretions disks and all this stuff - Nothing has made it into the game yet.
I have some hopes, but I think that we are not Talking About a bright future of this game we all love(d).
It is worse because instead of talking about the state of the game, you only focus on the validity of steam charts, even though that's not the point.
I have absolutly no opinions, agenda and feelings. So I don´t have to mention it.
I can say, we established a Player Faction two years ago, now we are more than 240 Pilots and become more every week.
There are not many things in the world, I had get so much fun for so few money.
And I still want more...
Thanks for that!
I can say, we established a Player Faction two years ago, now we are more than 240 Pilots and become more every week.
There are not many things in the world, I had get so much fun for so few money.
And I still want more...
Thanks for that!
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@AaronT
Guess what: There is a spacegame, you can use VR on a Planet just now
So everything is said, but not from anybody?
Well, then I pick my favourite quote for the loop.
Back to my white basement, too
You cannot walk around in your ship.
...and you can´t flush the toilet, you are right.
But instead you can play the game. Even in VR.
And in the future Elite:Unicorn version (upcoming with SC Beta 1) I bet you can.
But instead you can play the game. Even in VR.
And in the future Elite:Unicorn version (upcoming with SC Beta 1) I bet you can.
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And Cyberpunk 2077 (or any other AAA game developed behind closed doors) doesn't have to worry about:
a) releasing a playable relatively bug free game at any point in 6 years of development before it goes gold.
b) releasing content in an order that not only makes best development sense but also keeps those playing it happy.
Problem is that for lot of players it kinda is. They know that alone their opinions are just like that - opinions. And they feel they need to 'pad' their argument with idea, that there are more people disappointed with game and that's why devs should listen to them.
Thing is - devs would listen even without that padding. But they wouldn't necessarily obey players. And that's something pass by for many people posting these threads. Devs know complains and feedback. They will address them in matter of time and their own way.
Offline mode it's lie from Braben. Period. You like it or not.
This is the first time I'll discuss with you so I'll give the benefit of doubt.
Moving to new office has nothing to do with development, because at that time they were working on Dinosaur an an expansion of planet coaster if I remember right.
Ed has been completly abandoned to itself: compare the number of expansions we have had in 2015 (from 1.0 to 1.8) to 2.0 and what happened in the next 3 years.
Don't state the number of the add-on released (i.e.3.1 or 3.2 and so on): compare what they promised and how they cut (multicrew it wasn't that tu*d that it is now : they cut a lot of feature because they hadn't time which was spent on different project).
Compare even 3.1 and 3.2: what we get? 2 new ships (nice) and a revisitation of a what should be done right times ago (and they didn't).
Hell: in 2015 we passed from 16 ships to almost 31! And in the meanwhile they were working on planet, srv and so on. When they were working on Elite they shows us what they were doing.
And note: they did incredible things
But they stopped to work on Elite.
Don't answer me: compare by yourself and then go on: if you think Elite is well developed than stick with it.
Space legs and 2021.
They have announced that they'll work on Elite till 2021. If you see what they did till now you'll clearly can draw a conclsuion: no space legs will come out before 2021 or atmo planet.
True: that doesn't mean that they'll never work after such time on Ed. but unfortunatly it doesn't means neither that they'll work on it.
Considering that the only expansion which regular appears are the one in the shop (hence: elite as a cash cow) and again you can spot a pattern here and drawn your conclusion.
Its not boting, the game released bare bones and they took 4 years to develop 2 basic core activities, the otrhers are still bare bones.
Yes, they thought exploration was ok otherwise they would improve it the first year instead of creating CQC or Powerplay.
Its not a "boring point", it is important. I've said this many times, the game needed an overhaul, the activities in Elite are very shallow and boring.
I've started in early 2016 a thread about the lack of interactions in the gameplay, lack of mechanics and simplicity and the thread was locked after several pages because "it was a boring thread". The fault the game is in this crappy state is all because of the complacent community.
In this 4 years we didn't have any overhaul in the placeholder activities, we only got tiny tiny features. They had 4 years to make basic gameplay interactive and fun buyt ALL the gameplay is about shoot things, point and wait, or hold a button.
If they don't do a really good job with mining and exploration then I'm done with Elite.
I think you are overly upset about offlinegate years after it was relevant, even when it was relevant it wasn't a very big deal.
I'm not even talking about BGS, I'm talking about the interactions with the ship, enviroment or npcs. I'm talking of what you need to do with a tool of the ship to make something. How complex is honk a horn pressing a button? or flying straight to dock at full speed to evade 20 police ships and a HUGE door with air traffic controllers who give you complete access to dock at full speed and don't care anything. "Hey i'm not suspect Im just docking at full speed".
Or an infinite number of ships without objectives in a fishtank.
What kind of gameplay is this? The game has no sense, no soul, no complexity in its mechanics.
You know I hear a lot about the arc of doom concerning ED, usually in parallel with the arc of renegade intentions of FD since before the KS era.
I often think of it like this:
Bloke waiting for a bus, he has come to understand that a bus is a mode of transport available to him that once a ticket is purchased, takes him to where he wants to go. He has studied the bus timetables and routes, and decided he wants to visit town centre and has subsequently walked to the relevant bus stop, at which point he has been told his bus will arrive and pick him up.
Now for the most part, he is able to witness several if not more buses both pass and stop at his bus stop, which he decides not to get on, as they do not go where he wishes to go. A destination that he has been reliably informed is possible to reach and the reason why he is at the bus stop in the first place.
He keeps waiting.
And waiting.
He is there for months, happily waiting for this bus come rain or shine, as the bus company is repeating his bus will be available at some point through the tannoy at the bus stop. If only every now and again.
Years later, the bus company announce they have stopped the service for which the man went to the bus stop, and would the man like to catch another bus? After he calmed down, the man decides that being as he is invested, and that his family have now left him due to him living like a tramp at the bus stop, he might as well.
Once at the outskirts of town, the man speaks to the bus driver and says "well this isn't anywhere near town". To which the bus driver replies, you just spent four years using our bus stop, then got the bus...what do you want from me? Of course, the rest of the passengers, don't want to admit to a similar level of embarassing commitment to the original premise laid out by the bus company, so they all laugh at the bus drivers comments. Most of them of course, have no idea where they are or how they got there.
Turns out, neither does the bus driver.
Personally, I'd give a bus company offering that level of service, not long at all.
It's not "Doom".
It's just survival of the fittest.
I often think of it like this:
Bloke waiting for a bus, he has come to understand that a bus is a mode of transport available to him that once a ticket is purchased, takes him to where he wants to go. He has studied the bus timetables and routes, and decided he wants to visit town centre and has subsequently walked to the relevant bus stop, at which point he has been told his bus will arrive and pick him up.
Now for the most part, he is able to witness several if not more buses both pass and stop at his bus stop, which he decides not to get on, as they do not go where he wishes to go. A destination that he has been reliably informed is possible to reach and the reason why he is at the bus stop in the first place.
He keeps waiting.
And waiting.
He is there for months, happily waiting for this bus come rain or shine, as the bus company is repeating his bus will be available at some point through the tannoy at the bus stop. If only every now and again.
Years later, the bus company announce they have stopped the service for which the man went to the bus stop, and would the man like to catch another bus? After he calmed down, the man decides that being as he is invested, and that his family have now left him due to him living like a tramp at the bus stop, he might as well.
Once at the outskirts of town, the man speaks to the bus driver and says "well this isn't anywhere near town". To which the bus driver replies, you just spent four years using our bus stop, then got the bus...what do you want from me? Of course, the rest of the passengers, don't want to admit to a similar level of embarassing commitment to the original premise laid out by the bus company, so they all laugh at the bus drivers comments. Most of them of course, have no idea where they are or how they got there.
Turns out, neither does the bus driver.
Personally, I'd give a bus company offering that level of service, not long at all.
It's not "Doom".
It's just survival of the fittest.
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It doesn't work with FD.
This happens in all game forums no matter what the game, for a simple arithmetical reason. Every game has a turnover of players: people typically buy a game, play it for weeks, months or years, then move on to another game. Most of the people who move on don't ever contribute to the forum again but there's a minority who continue posting. Their posts are of course generally negative; the game is no longer one they enjoy. Simple arithmetic then means that new, keen players gradually get outnumbered by discontented people. Every game forum becomes more and more toxic over time because of this.
The rising discontent therefore indicates nothing about how good or bad the game actually is.
And this does?
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