ED RPG under atttack over alledged IP dispute...AGAIN.

Agony_Aunt

Agony_Aunt
Ian Phillips said:
Wonder why they are not challenging the IP rights for Elite: Dangerous?
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Because FD have the money to fight back?

Or actually, didn't Braben sort this all out years ago when he started the ED kickstarter? Basically bought the rights to everything? Plus he is (was?) co-owner of the rights right? Bit harder to convince a court someone who created something doesn't have the rights to it compared to a third party producing something based on that IP.
 

Kaltern

Kaltern
I believe it's to do with Bell holding claim to copyright for some of the ship types that we don't see in the new Elite universe.. there was a thread about it in the recent past.
 

Vingtetun

Vingtetun
Already got my copy... The Kickstarter ended over a year ago if not longer so no idea what this is about.....

I know that the Battlecards were also subject to a spurious and meritless disput but why block a Kickstarter that had already completed?

Anyone checked on the pages for the elite books? Would be weird if they DIDN'T have similar.
 

RexKraemer

RexKraemer
"We could either accept the premise that there had been a breach, remove and provide proof that we had corrected the error or we could refute the allegation and put the ball firmly back in the complaining party's court. This second option would then require the complaining party to prove the breach and show to Kickstarter that they have started legal action against us.

"We chose the second option and Kickstarter gave the other side 10 days to provide the proof that they had begun action against us from this alleged breach. As nothing further was heard from these people, we waited the 10 days and then Kickstarter reinstated us at around the same time that they took us down, just three weeks later.
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From here:
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/...rous-pen-and-paper-rpg-returns-to-kickstarter

And what we see now is "that they have started legal action"s.

Or do you think its someone else not related to "Ian Bell Elite Rights LLP"

For side information also from above link:
The complaint came from Chris Jordan, a long-time associate of Bell now representing a company called Ian Bell Elite Rights LLP. Jordan, who holds Bell's Elite copyright, had emailed Spidermind to accuse the Kickstarter of "commercially exploiting" the work of Bell. There is no suggestion Bell himself was involved in the complaint.
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RexKraemer

RexKraemer
Vingtetun said:
That's from 2017
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em,yes, I was more asking, if it is now the same, but WITH legal action, so "Ian Bell Elite Rights LLP" behind that.

Or is it something new and only "Simons Muirhead & Burton LLP" behind it.

Just asking, I expect that it is currently unknown and detailed information is not out yet.
 

Vingtetun

Vingtetun
I've spoken to Jon over there and the timeline/info i have is:
1. ED:Battlecards on kickstarter they've had a takedown notification related to the IP - the last one (for EDRPG), no evidence was supplied, so the kickstarter completed after a break
2. They're unaware of any detail, or whether even there's any evidence provided on this one as Kickstarter tell them nothing other than the takedown notice
3. They're waiting for the deadline to pass (which I think it now has) for the takedown to be substantiated before (if it isn't and therefore there's no ongoing dispute) carrying on with their kickstarter campaign (3 remaining days) and then completing fully
4. They have a license from Frontier for their product and the assets within their product are from Elite Dangerous and Frontier had a copy to look at and play before the Kickstarter launched.... so all is above board
5. The additional takedown has them a little mystified as that's a COMPLETED kickstarter that has already been delivered. It's noted that the other Elite related kickstarters haven't been subject to the same thing (the books, or the game itself) - but frankly, an archived and completed kickstarter being blocked is a little odd (that's my own comment, not his).

Other than that, he's mystified as to the "why" of it all and is just eager to get back on with things.
 
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