Guardian SLF - magic ships?
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i can only imagine the impact on the forums when the first few commanders got killed by Elite SLF NPCs that where given RAILGUN equipped fighters.
Of all the posts in this thread, this one made me laugh the most, well regarding the first paragraph. To assume we, in 2018, know everything there is to know about everything is being a little umm, presumptuous isn't it. In the year 1900 everyone knew that you couldn't fly in something heavier than air, they were convinced you would die if you travelled over 50 miles per hour, venturing above the atmosphere was the stuff of silly writers like Jules Verne. Yet something in a game set 2200 years in the future is wrong because present day science hasn't discovered it - oh deary me ….
Stronger moveable three piece shields than the mere shield bubble the humans have.
Looks like Guardian tech to me.
Looks like Guardian tech to me.
I saw a video comparing Guardian and engineered tech and generally Guardian tech was found to be about the same as human tech with a level 2 or 3 engineer upgrade. Those tests were done on non-weapons, though. But I would assume it's probably similar with weapons?
Sure you don't mean fiction?
And we all still agree that No Man's Sky is uninteresting because of its unrealistic physics, goofy playmobil ship designs, and because it "looks like a cartoon," right? And Star Citizen is just boring, derivative, generic sci-fi cribbing from whatever the creators think is cool or popular, regardless of whether or not it makes any sense, right?
Elite is superior because of its attention to detail, sense of scale, sense of believability, and things like realistic physics and accurate simulations of gravity, planetary orbits, and the Milky Way galaxy, right?
just wanna make sure those are still gonna be our go-to talking points.
Elite is superior because of its attention to detail, sense of scale, sense of believability, and things like realistic physics and accurate simulations of gravity, planetary orbits, and the Milky Way galaxy, right?
just wanna make sure those are still gonna be our go-to talking points.
That is something I hate. It simplifies a whole civilisation down to a few design styles. Granted we don't have any real aliens to compare ourselves to, but how many different styles to humans have (given everything 'alien', you have ever seen in any game, film, TV program, comic or read in a book is in fact, a human creation)? Whilst some things are designed in a certain way, it is usually because the design makes sense. Thus, most cars are boxes with wheels at the bottom corners. But think about how many thousands of architectural styles we have made over the centuries, how many musical genres, how many art movements, how many companies with there own brand styles, colours, logos, how any languages? Humans are awash with design.
But aliens are always simple to the point that they must not have an equivalent of a right side of the brain. Everything Guardian glows blue and is triangular. There planets must have been so dull. Even if you argued those are just the bits of tech that survived, I would expect to see some design variation.
It's a classic sci-fi mistake. Humans have thousands of styles. Aliens only ever have one. (Oh and that's before we get to: the Insects fly insect ships. The reptiles fly reptile ships. The plants fly plant ships... just like humans fly large naked action men... oh wait).
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Today's technology would appear as magic to people only 100 years ago. Is it inconceivable that technology continues to advance? Besides, it's a video game about the future, not a simulation of the present. The only thing in elite remotely plausible with today's technology is the coffee maker in the Krait . Unless one of you is mining coal with a purple laser beam or scooping a stars corona to power your Cub Cadet lawn mower, it's time to stop looking for the most minuscule details to complain about.
The stations already have "floating" small structures held by magnetism in the "signposts" seen around at both stations and outposts. Also consider the shields deflect metallic structures to the point of no physical collision. ED has no artificial gravity, because the force field tech available only seems to affect metallic elements so far. Same with the guardian sentinels.
The ED&FD bashing bandwagon would love to use the guardian slf's as more ammo & fodder, but ED remains remarkably consistent with its limitations to its sci-fi world as a whole. Obviously inline with guardian materials and tech needed to construct the guardian SLFs but unable to do so withiout the rare materials and alien components. Where ED tech can't reproduce the principles of advanced guardian tech, but able to make use of material components to make highly stable magnetic field structures holding the wings together. No different than ED human tech unable to reproduce hyperdiction by thargoids.
[video=youtube;1PwC9xGnSC0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PwC9xGnSC0[/video]
The ED&FD bashing bandwagon would love to use the guardian slf's as more ammo & fodder, but ED remains remarkably consistent with its limitations to its sci-fi world as a whole. Obviously inline with guardian materials and tech needed to construct the guardian SLFs but unable to do so withiout the rare materials and alien components. Where ED tech can't reproduce the principles of advanced guardian tech, but able to make use of material components to make highly stable magnetic field structures holding the wings together. No different than ED human tech unable to reproduce hyperdiction by thargoids.
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Similar weapons?
I've compared the Gauss Cannon to a Railgun and they are not even close. Long range rails with 40% cooling do PVP level damage. Whereas Gauss Cannons can't even scratch the paint on even a weak shielded ship without exploding from heat in the attempt.
The Plasma Charger does about Grade 2 level damage compared to say an Efficient PA. However, the Plasma Charger has an exceptionally long recharge time between full damage shots, so the effective DPS of the PA is probably more than double. Higher if you have a short range mod build.
As for the Shard Cannon vs the Frag Cannon, idk I've yet to unlock that one.
I love the enthusiasm about magnetism, even tho that was discovered in 500 bc or so?
I think we are waaay past magnets on the refrigerator here.
I think we are waaay past magnets on the refrigerator here.
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Indeed we are, but not necessary much beyond, except in terms of raw electromagnet field power. Honestly, I'm glad to see Frontier walking back their previous stance on tractor "beam" technology. Maybe pirates ship-2-ship "tethers" and cargo bay doors can be fitted with a similar tech?
I'd settle for a mechanical grappler
[video=youtube_share;bRDKOcfrI-Y]https://youtu.be/bRDKOcfrI-Y[/video]
You know what come next don't you! Floating spoilers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :O
Must have floating spoilers. You go ahead and start a thread.
LOLOO
Have you ever seen a maglev train. Do you know what a magnet is. Or do you scream immersion at your fridge, in the mornings. Asking for a friend?
Yeah, more like a maglev train or something; it's not like we don't have ships powered by a micro-star held in.. wait, what's that magical force that's used to contain plasma at extreme temperatures.. surely that's magic. Way past magnets on the refrigerator.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokamak
Frontier uses a force that's actually based on science, with a visual cue because that helps people understand the principle, and the same people lose their minds because it's magic and can't be real. Meanwhile; everytime my ship explodes I have a new body and a new ship and people talking about escape pods that the ship never ejects. This is all fine.
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