Alien archaeology and other mysteries: Breaking News, Theories and Tinfoil Hattery

So when we travel with the Gnosis to Cone, we end up in a permit locked system.
If we jump out of that system( Cone Sector FN-J B9-0), we can't get back to the Gnosis or get out of the sector.

This sounds fishy top me. Doesn't quite add up. :S
 
So when we travel with the Gnosis to Cone, we end up in a permit locked system.
If we jump out of that system( Cone Sector FN-J B9-0), we can't get back to the Gnosis or get out of the sector.

This sounds fishy top me. Doesn't quite add up. :S

Go check the region again in game.

*EVERYTHING* is permit locked now, not just that one sector.
 
Go check the region again in game.

*EVERYTHING* is permit locked now, not just that one sector.

Surely this is just FD realizing they forgot to permit lock a sector surrounded by other permit locked sectors.

I bet the Gnosis either fails the jump or comes out somewhere different.
 
Surely this is just FD realizing they forgot to permit lock a sector surrounded by other permit locked sectors.

I bet the Gnosis either fails the jump or comes out somewhere different.

The Gnosis can not jump anywhere without FD's permission in the first place.
Since all systems are now permit locked, commanders on board will not be able to explore more then that one system where the gnosis ends up.

also, since FDEV won't let commanders risk their precious unsaved transaction data, the chances that player ships getting stuck or destroyed without their own fault,
there is a high chance that in case of a catastrophic result of that jump will make anyone facing a rebuy screen.

my hope is just that FDEV doesn't force all the "plot" into a server downtime.
more like - jump on thursday, a day in the permit locked system, with scripted events that forces the gnosis and all its passengers to make an emergency jump out again.
and after that, the Gnosis remains as another tourist beacon as dead hulk in space ;)
 
Surely this is just FD realizing they forgot to permit lock a sector surrounded by other permit locked sectors.

I bet the Gnosis either fails the jump or comes out somewhere different.

It would be a bizzare move to *not* do it. We know Barnacles are Thargoid... and we've only ever confirmed Barnacles (and by extension, other Thargoid things) out as far as Witch Head Nebula.

The Galnet article stating the Cone Sector system has a "High Concentration of Hydras" is the first sign of Thargoids beyond the Witch Head nebula. The only other things to have occurred beyond the Witch Head nebula is the Wreaken incident in Col 70 Sector, and the triangulation of the Thargoid probe to (that Col 70 Sector system which it got triangulated to). So we have some evidence that the Thargoids may have an interest out that way, but no "smoking gun" so to speak, so this is the very first confirmation we've ever had.

As I posted in one of the Gnosis threads though, what happens next has some pretty far-reaching ramifications as far as permit-locked sectors go. Until now, the Cone Sector was "Just another region of space"... the fact it was surrounded by permit-locked sectors was coincidental at best. To confirm Thargoid presence there, *and* to permit lock it means that either FD have got something very interesting cooked up, or it's an incredibly ill-thought-through knee-jerk reaction. I mean... here's some of the possibilities.

- Maybe FD did overlook it, and they have plot plans for that sector. But they could've just overlooked it more, and had the Gnosis expedition go off without a hitch, and have nothing of interest found without permit locking, or any mention of Thargoids. That would've been a perfectly valid outcome.
- If the Gnosis is just going to "bounce" off the permit locks and just end up somewhere else will be pretty anticlimactic and will probably irritate a lot of people, when the previous possibility existed... especially now there's Thargoids announced to be in that sector.
- Maybe Gnosis is going to jump there, get mashed up by the Hydras, and the PF decides "well damn, now we need to unseal those areas to render assistance to a large amount of PF pilots", and it happens to tie into a plot stage FD had ready to go, but the Gnosis is just a convenient excuse now[1]
- Gnosis jumps in and the region stays permit locked. NHSS with Hydras abound, but maybe there's something big to find in that system, thus why it's being locked down. Maybe a Hive Ship or something. But then, if there's "interesting stuff behind the veil" so to speak... maybe Permit-locked sectors aren't so off-limits, and we just need to prod FD. I mean, what about a Gnosis jump into Polaris next, if this goes off. Is that the plan, or have FD just painted themselves into a corner with something ill thought through.

And then, of course, we have this:
Hello folks,

All I'll say is that the Gnosis' jump to the cone region is still planned and hasn't changed because of the presence of permit locks.

Watch the skies.

Of course, Will's final comment just has me tinfoiling about this:

[video=youtube;E4SOuUcL8ec]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4SOuUcL8ec[/video]

There's a lot that could happen on the 6th.... and I'll be interested to see what does happen, even if it's nothing, just for curiosities sake.


[1] Think of this one in the context of Jacques mis-jump. That got tied to Thargoid Sensor related interference... but who knows. Jacques may have misjumped regardless, and TS never would have been faulted if nobody had bombed it. Or maybe it would have jumped successfully. We'll never know.
 
It would be a bizzare move to *not* do it. We know Barnacles are Thargoid... and we've only ever confirmed Barnacles (and by extension, other Thargoid things) out as far as Witch Head Nebula.

The Galnet article stating the Cone Sector system has a "High Concentration of Hydras" is the first sign of Thargoids beyond the Witch Head nebula. The only other things to have occurred beyond the Witch Head nebula is the Wreaken incident in Col 70 Sector, and the triangulation of the Thargoid probe to (that Col 70 Sector system which it got triangulated to). So we have some evidence that the Thargoids may have an interest out that way, but no "smoking gun" so to speak, so this is the very first confirmation we've ever had.

As I posted in one of the Gnosis threads though, what happens next has some pretty far-reaching ramifications as far as permit-locked sectors go. Until now, the Cone Sector was "Just another region of space"... the fact it was surrounded by permit-locked sectors was coincidental at best. To confirm Thargoid presence there, *and* to permit lock it means that either FD have got something very interesting cooked up, or it's an incredibly ill-thought-through knee-jerk reaction. I mean... here's some of the possibilities.

- Maybe FD did overlook it, and they have plot plans for that sector. But they could've just overlooked it more, and had the Gnosis expedition go off without a hitch, and have nothing of interest found without permit locking, or any mention of Thargoids. That would've been a perfectly valid outcome.
- If the Gnosis is just going to "bounce" off the permit locks and just end up somewhere else will be pretty anticlimactic and will probably irritate a lot of people, when the previous possibility existed... especially now there's Thargoids announced to be in that sector.
- Maybe Gnosis is going to jump there, get mashed up by the Hydras, and the PF decides "well damn, now we need to unseal those areas to render assistance to a large amount of PF pilots", and it happens to tie into a plot stage FD had ready to go, but the Gnosis is just a convenient excuse now[1]
- Gnosis jumps in and the region stays permit locked. NHSS with Hydras abound, but maybe there's something big to find in that system, thus why it's being locked down. Maybe a Hive Ship or something. But then, if there's "interesting stuff behind the veil" so to speak... maybe Permit-locked sectors aren't so off-limits, and we just need to prod FD. I mean, what about a Gnosis jump into Polaris next, if this goes off. Is that the plan, or have FD just painted themselves into a corner with something ill thought through.

And then, of course, we have this:


Of course, Will's final comment just has me tinfoiling about this:



There's a lot that could happen on the 6th.... and I'll be interested to see what does happen, even if it's nothing, just for curiosities sake.


[1] Think of this one in the context of Jacques mis-jump. That got tied to Thargoid Sensor related interference... but who knows. Jacques may have misjumped regardless, and TS never would have been faulted if nobody had bombed it. Or maybe it would have jumped successfully. We'll never know.

So, Motherships in the Cone sector? That would be awesome! For science of course. I think there must be something in there to account for the high concentration of Hydras.

And please FDev, give all of us on board permits to the cone region. Don't want to be locked in a single sector.
 
The Cone Sector is pretty far 'south'.

If there is any truth to the rumors that there is a war going on between the Oresrians and Klaxians, Cone Sector would be a reasonable front zone.

The Gnosis' planed voyage would be the perfect opportunity for FD to show us a glimpse of an inter Thargoid war.

Let it stay for a week, before it's forced to pull out. :)
 
To Boldly go, right?

One was or the other we get to poke about the Cone Nebula.

Even if it is just a hot bed of Hydra NHSS and nothing else, those inclinded to can try to fight them, or get tissue samples, and those disenclined can still explore as was planned and what appealled before Hydrae were a thing and the Pilots Fed stuck their nose into the Joruney

For me, being part of the Journey is a win.
 
So when we travel with the Gnosis to Cone, we end up in a permit locked system.
If we jump out of that system( Cone Sector FN-J B9-0), we can't get back to the Gnosis or get out of the sector.

This sounds fishy top me. Doesn't quite add up. :S

So definitly my explora-conda with afmu and repair limpets. Also stock up on synthesis materials ;)

But galnet doesn't mention, that it were a lot more systems that got locked :( soooo super sad what happens
 
Maybe this is a way for FD to remove some "troublesome" Cmdrs from the known Galaxy. Maybe this will be a one way trip? So....

... I will be joining the Gnosis some time this week :)

It may be the Gnosis will get in trouble, and require a community event to repair it.

It's interesting the Gnosis can still jump into a permit locked sector, which means the FSDs of the Gnosis are not under the control of the Pilot's Federation... or the Gnosis has a special permit?

Also, have any fancy Imperial ships arrived that the Gnosis which differ from the typical ones? Aisling Duval has not been heard from since the wedding was called off... maybe this is a way to put her where no one will hear from her again? :eek:
 
Maybe this is a way for FD to remove some "troublesome" Cmdrs from the known Galaxy. Maybe this will be a one way trip? So....

... I will be joining the Gnosis some time this week :)

It may be the Gnosis will get in trouble, and require a community event to repair it.

It's interesting the Gnosis can still jump into a permit locked sector, which means the FSDs of the Gnosis are not under the control of the Pilot's Federation... or the Gnosis has a special permit?

Also, have any fancy Imperial ships arrived that the Gnosis which differ from the typical ones? Aisling Duval has not been heard from since the wedding was called off... maybe this is a way to put her where no one will hear from her again? :eek:

Sounds like anybody still planning on boarding the Gnosis should stock up on AX weaponry, anticorrosion limpets and Guardian fighters pdq!
 

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Sounds like anybody still planning on boarding the Gnosis should stock up on AX weaponry, anticorrosion limpets and Guardian fighters pdq!

Only if your intent is murder.

Certainly seems like people are no longer treating it as a scientific trip.

I'm also thinking that everyone is hanging on to the fact that all of the area is now permit locked and by extension that must mean that it will all stay permit locked. I personally don't think that's the case. There are a lot of good theories about mis jumps and the like, but assuming we do make it through to the Cone Sector as planned, then I wouldn't be surprised if we find something in the initial system that could give us access to more of the surrounding systems.

It would be great to have a puzzle once again to solve, rather than the pointless shooting fest we've been treated to over the last year or so. Working together over a month period to try and unlock some of the mysteries hidden in the area, ending up in the Cone Nebula would seem appropriate.
 
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Only if your intent is murder.

Certainly seems like people are no longer treating it as a scientific trip.

I'm also thinking that everyone is hanging on to the fact that all of the area is now permit locked and by extension that must mean that it will all stay permit locked. I personally don't think that's the case. There are a lot of good theories about mis jumps and the like, but assuming we do make it through to the Cone Sector as planned, then I wouldn't be surprised if we find something in the initial system that could give us access to more of the surrounding systems.

It would be great to have a puzzle once again to solve, rather than the pointless shooting fest we've been treated to over the last year or so. Working together over a month period to try and unlock some of the mysteries hidden in the area, ending up in the Cone Nebula would seem appropriate.

This is why it's interesting... there's so much that could happen. Conversely (and unfortunately), interesting puzzles to solve and the like are somewhere on the bottom of my "likely events" list. Don't get me wrong, I'm stashing all sorts of equipment in outfitting before the jump, and I'll be prepared for either some combat or sciencing... but when the Guardian Beacons *could* have had recon limpet + hatch breaker interaction points, dumping different bits of cargo that are then used to repower the beacon. Instead.... here's three pylons you shoot, job done.

But I am expecting whatever outcome arrives, to be interesting regardless, whether from a story, gameplay mechanic, or just "What's FD gonna do" perspective.
 
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