What I've learned about griefers/gankers across the board.

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In ED they hang around noob game starting points, and CG's, etc, in SC they basically ram folks ships on the landing pads in the armistice zone, and they exist in every online game.

Do they shoot folks up out in the open, no, folks who engage you in the open whether you are expecting it or not are fine, they are playing as intended, a loss to them might cause a momentary bit of salt, but as far as actual griefers and gankers, I despise them as much as anyone can be despised.

And one thing I have noticed, during times where most youth are in school in the US region, and you are on a US server, same for EU, AUS, etc, you see very little ganking at all, if any.

I shall preface the rest with not all kids are gankers, many kids are excellent kids and will be great future leaders, and most are average and will provide great homes for their families later on, then there are those destined for prison.

There is a small window on a week day where on a USS server it is likely that most kids are in school, and that is the most relaxing time to play almost any online game in the US region, because as soon as kids have time to get home, the ganking starts and continues until a short bit before school starts again.

The weekends are gank fests, including holidays.

Anytime kids are out of school there is going to be massive amounts of ganking.

Heck, in SC there are whole crews of them.

Adults who like gaming for the most part are respectful of others, and we grew up in a time when being a little snot nosed foul mouthed heathens with no respect for others or themselves in general got knocked out of us, but sadly, the world is full of bags now with participation trophies and this is what we get.

Immature little disrespectful smart alec trolls with no discipline in their lives that cannot even play an online game without trolling everyone.

Don't believe me, get on in open during a week day, when school or juvenile detention is in effect your time, on a server in your region and see how often you are ganked as opposed to all other times.

The great thing about ED though isd that it is so huge you can even visit populated area's and never get ganked, but in CG,s and noob area it is more prevalent.

Thank you, to all of our future leaders who do the right thing and are not sociopaths or rotten to the core, to the rest...
 
I had my first ever outing in Open on a Saturday this morning.


I got shot.

I've been plodding around in open on weekdays for years, and rarely meet anyone, let alone a hostile.

But today I had my ship blown up while I crashed in to various guardian structures in my SRV.

Admittedly, I was probably ruining things for them by being there and scanning random stuff.

But I was blown up.

It was kinda funny. It's only a game.
 
I had my first ever outing in Open on a Saturday this morning.


I got shot.

I've been plodding around in open on weekdays for years, and rarely meet anyone, let alone a hostile.

But today I had my ship blown up while I crashed in to various guardian structures in my SRV.

Admittedly, I was probably ruining things for them by being there and scanning random stuff.

But I was blown up.

It was kinda funny. It's only a game.

See, there we go, there it is, lock, stock, and barrel.
 
I really don't know whether the assumption of predominantly kids ganking/griefing is a valid one.
I honestly don't know but had the feeling that some of the PvP lords out here and in favour/justifying shooting down others must rather be adults like me considering the level of language used.

Anyway - should the assumption be a correct one I also must say - kudos to them, many kids are simply better/more proficient in these things than I am/we are.
Watching my 17 years old (not in ED but the usual Battle Royal games) I know I would be dead in 5 seconds if I met him in any of these games.

Bottom line it's just that - a game.
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People need to get this right ...

Ganking is the short form of "gang killing", so the activity of killing a single ship with a group of ships.

If my squad an I go against a single Vette or Cutter from the 13th Legion in our own home system, we are ganking it (for a good reason... 13th is trash...)

Griefing is the activity of ruining somebody else's fun by shooting them or destroying them by any means just for the sake of doing it and most of the time, repeatedly.

And as Cosmic has pointed out a few times, it's a game, you die, you lose a few credits and respawn. It's not like you lost something really valuable and important in you RL...
 
I agree fellow dad, these young whippersnappers have no respect for their elders.

Now excuse me while I look for my teeth :D
 

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So... what did you expect? :D
 
People need to get this right ...

Ganking is the short form of "gang killing", so the activity of killing a single ship with a group of ships.

If my squad an I go against a single Vette or Cutter from the 13th Legion in our own home system, we are ganking it (for a good reason... 13th is trash...)

Griefing is the activity of ruining somebody else's fun by shooting them or destroying them by any means just for the sake of doing it and most of the time, repeatedly.

And as Cosmic has pointed out a few times, it's a game, you die, you lose a few credits and respawn. It's not like you lost something really valuable and important in you RL...

Thanks a lot for explaining the difference.

It's challenging for a non native speaker and not having grown up with these terms to understand the meaning and subtleties - e.g. the explanation ganking = gang killing I have seen the first time.
o7

P.S.
Still my son and his mates would kill me and yes, I will check where my elderly care nurse is...
:)
 
I can see getting annoyed briefly when people do things like fill a station interior with shock mines or something like that but if you got interdicted and shot down by another player, unless you are really new I don't feel bad. It's a game where you strap guns and interdictors to a spaceship and fly around. Balance is argument for another place but the reality is ships are designed with hardpoints. Stations will sell weapons just as happily as cargo racks. The interdictor modules are plentiful and cheap. Shooting players can be more fun than shooting your ten thousandth NPC. Bottom line is it's a shooty shooty space ship game with some peripheral grind options you can opt out of.
 
I hear you OP. In general I don't mind as much attempted interdictions and powerplay, bountyhunting rp'd attacks. But the worst are the ambushing sociopaths. Like those who attack without warning appearing on radar from behind a structure shooting reverb torps, ambush a CG, or ram a ship in a station/suicide-winder. Kind of stinks of similarity to those hit'n'run drivers, car keying bums, wallet thieves, etc.
 
Years ago me and my mates used to go to Laserquest in Glasgow of an evening - and as you were officially only allowed in sober no alcohol was taken before hand (aye, right). Lots of fun was had and as they had some bloke in a Predator outfit (from the movies - was the real deal) running around as well ,was most entertaining.
If you made the mistake of going on a Sat morning or during school holidays when the "kids" were in it was full of folk cheating - some most amusingly - saw two youngsters using their "friend" as a shield - they literally hauled him around in his harness and used him to block shots :) - anyway it could still be "fun" of a sort - but, definately wasn't as rewarding an experience.
It just re-inforces that kids aren't any good at playing :p
p.s. and the skateboarding skills these days - dear lord, what are they up to ? I blame too much studying for modern apprenticeships at Asda - Life is too short Play More

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQEbqgKHeTQ
 
Out in the open, fair game, on pads and in armistice zones, CG's that are peaceful, etc is ganking.

IMO, any fair play is fair game. The best way to define "fair play" it to give an example of what's not fair play. First one that comes to mind is ramming, because it's currently a cheat: the attacker does not identify as hostile, thus you're not able to defend yourself without becoming wanted. Basically, anything that exploits holes in the C&P mechanisms built into the game is griefing. Otherwise, while it may be antisocial, big ships picking on little ships is legit game play, assuming C&P is working as intended.

Though I do think the police force needs to be stepped in high security systems, and if they aren't already, the starter system and early missions destinations should be HiSec.
 
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