You are a silly person.
This is a well known facet of BJJ.
http://bfy.tw/JutQ
It's still not an accurate use of the term.
And subjective, therefore meaningless here.
It's not "subjective" at all when I can clearly observe the griefing behavior occurring.
No, I was just pointing out the false equivalence fallacy.
It's not a "false equivalency". It's just as silly to insist that you're "sparring" in a "martial art" by fighting on the first day before you've developed any relevant skills as it is to insist that you're obtaining "marksmanship training" shooting a pistol at a shooting range on the first day before you've developed any relevant skills.
What is with you and the "stupid quotes?"
Your first day of marksmanship training is still marksmanship training.
If you had poor instruction, it is just poor marksmanship training.
If I am firing a pistol at a shooting range without adequate instruction it is not "marksmanship training". It is simply shooting a pistol without knowing how to do it properly.
If I am fighting someone at a dojo without adequate instruction it is not "sparring". It is simply fighting without knowing how to do it properly.
At some point if you are given adequate instruction you can call what you are doing "marksmanship" or "sparring" but simply being handed a firearm or being told to fight someone does not automatically qualify for those terms.
I don't care if you think so.
The people that paid me were happy.
People pay others all the time despite those individuals being wrong. My mechanic is not suddenly "correct" simply because someone pays him to do mechanical work that was completed to a sub-par standard or was completely unnecessary.
I'm pointing out the false dichotomy.
It's not a "false dichotomy". Again, you're using a term that doesn't mean what you think it means.
I use one ship for both, and when people are competing, I do well in both arenas, at the same time.
A PVP-equipped combat ship can obviously be used for PVE combat, it is in fact overequipped for such a role in terms of burst dps and survivability. You may need to return for rearming more often if you use weapons that have more limited ammunition reserves but it would still be effective in PVE combat. A PVE-equipped multirole ship however can't reasonably compete with a PVP-equipped ship, not only because it isn't designed exclusively for PVP combat, it also carries cargo and other equipment that reduces its overall combat potential.
What you are claiming would be like comparing a purpose-built military vehicle with a police or security vehicle designed for an urban role. You could of course use a military IFV or APC such as a Bradley or Stryker in a similar role as an urban armored car (i.e., for bank transport) or as a SWAT vehicle. It would in fact be overdesigned and overbuilt for that role given that it has military equipment that is far in excess of what is needed for an urban setting. That does not mean that you can turn around and try to use an urban armored car or a SWAT vehicle effectively in a military role. They are not designed as military vehicles to handle full military threats and don't have the off-road performance or mobility to operate properly outside of city streets.
I use the same exact ship, yes.
Yes, of course you can use a PVP ship for PVE combat if you wanted. That wasn't the point at all here. Did you even read my posts?
I don't need cargo to do combat.
Which is exactly why a multirole ship, that does need cargo, can't compete with a PVP-equipped ship.
Multirole is a red herring.
Multirole /= PVE you silly person!
When players are being interdicted in their PVE-equipped Anacondas and Pythons, what exactly do you think those ships are equipped for? They are fitted out for a combination of PVE combat and trading which by definition requires cargo space. How is that not clear?
Bounty hunting CGs are PVE combat.
Which does not mean that a PVE-equipped ship can suddenly compete in PVP combat.
Try to pay attention!
LOL
At this point you are either trolling or you are simply not reading my posts.
Either you can demonstrate that you have actually read and understood my argument in your next post or I'll have to put you on ignore.