Question: were the two settlements attacked by Thargoids for sure? I saw shooting damages there but not the green smear you usually find on attacked stations, ships or Thargoid bases. According to the evidence I am not sure that it was a Thargoid attack. Yes, I found two greenish spots on the ground but they looked different from what we found in other places. Any suggestions?
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INRA faking a Thargoid attack?
Eagle Eye always (recently) gives 6 locations - two are targets, four are various other places Thargoids are looking at. Normally they are already known (like Barnacles, crashed Thargoids, INRA bases, attacked settlements) - but this week there was more interesting stuff like these settlements and The Gnosis
Edit: Comprehensively ninjad
Discocat & others fixed it
Looking back on this post seems most prophetic
are the mat drops the same as Davs?
They've been harvesting escape pods since they first appeared. It's not rocket science.... they're
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I was close by and payed both sites a visit. Found a Thargoid ship doing... something.., scanning?? .. picking up the last unfortunate souls?? at both sites. I kept flying around, being in an explorer Asp, and they left after a while...
There i was, alone in the eerie abandoned facility. Green glow everywhere, didn't seem anyone was left alive in there.. Excellent opportunity for some material scavenging!
There i was, alone in the eerie abandoned facility. Green glow everywhere, didn't seem anyone was left alive in there.. Excellent opportunity for some material scavenging!
Analysis of the logs of the two stations "The Sanctum" and "The Prophet" of the sect of the "Far God".
We are now used to the fact that FD provides us - as in a classic "paper chase" - with half the information we need in various ways (BGS, Galnet, etc.) to arouse our interest and lure us somewhere.
For some time now Galnet has been reporting on various Thargoid-hostile and Thargoid-friendly sects, among them the sect of the "Far God". Especially this cult is mentioned again and again and is intensively persecuted by the secret service of the Federation, and sect members are sentenced in court and imprisoned. In the end, FD even launched a GC for the sect, which is at least tolerated by the Alliance.
At the end of August it became known that two remote bases of the sect were found in the ETAIN System, namely "THE SANCTUM" on 4 A and "THE PROPHET" on 4 C.
As some Cmdrs here already reported, the atmosphere there is dark and oppressive and remotely reminiscent of the INRA bases. Thargoids occasionally appear and scan the buildings and containers as well as the present spaceships and SRVs. The stations have obviously been attacked, but it seems to have been conventional weapons, because there are no typical green Thargoid slime tracks. Some of the doors have been broken open. While approaching the The Prophet from afar, you can see a strange greenish glow or hull around the base.
There are no traces of life, but you can scan a total of 9 LOGs on both stations, which have been published several times already.
I have reviewed the logs one by one and come to the following conclusion:
Previous findings are confirmed
The undercover federal investigator from LOG 9 does not see any direct contacts of the sect to the Thargoids, which would only confirm the status of a sect for its own purpose and benefit. Here, of course, we have to ask what is meant by "direct contacts". Obviously, the agent is looking for indications of a bidirectional exchange of information or physical contacts between the sect leaders and the Thargoids.
Right now we only see the damaged bases and this enigmatic rotating installation "R-9" inside The Prophet. The damage to the stations that can be observed could actually be attributed to actions to free the agent before the stasis of the cult members begins/began.
Unknown is the function of the obviously still functioning rotating device "R-9" inside The Prophet. Is this a transmitter or beacon to attract Thargoids - and to offer the people in stasis to the Thargoids? How long has this "human smuggling" existed? How old is the sect of the Far God? In LOG 6 someone has been aware of the Thargs since childhood. So it must have existed for at least a few decades.
So slowly a suspicion grows inside of me.
So far they only have searched purposefully and have left the rest alone. They leave SOL unharmed, they don't destroy the stations and ships completely, they collect what they need.
And here comes my last argument:
in different threads I have pointed out several times and provided pictorial evidence that with the convoys as with the large transport ships all of the containers were examined by the Thargoids, but in the majority always only certain were " cracked ", namely those of CAINE-MASSEY and BREWER.
And now please look at the containers we find in The Sanctum and The Prophet: only those with the inscriptions of the above-mentioned galaxy-wide operating companies CAINE-MASSEY and BREWER.
So did these two companies carry out human transports since a long time that the Thargoids knew about and attacked them?
So it is possible that long time ago, after the first Thargoid war and the direct contacts with the Thargoids that (according to the Lore) took place, there was an agreement, as perverse as it may sound: we give you a free hand here in the bubble, as long as you give us a free hand as well. Translated: You can fish people here as long as we - The Club and the Super Powers - can pursue our interests unhindered.
With the discovery of the Guardian bases and the development of Guardian weapons, this agreement has been disrupted. Now the Guardians have even helped us to get new ships with the lately discovered Beacons - their relics are our salvation in the fight against the increasing Thargoid threat.
We are now used to the fact that FD provides us - as in a classic "paper chase" - with half the information we need in various ways (BGS, Galnet, etc.) to arouse our interest and lure us somewhere.
For some time now Galnet has been reporting on various Thargoid-hostile and Thargoid-friendly sects, among them the sect of the "Far God". Especially this cult is mentioned again and again and is intensively persecuted by the secret service of the Federation, and sect members are sentenced in court and imprisoned. In the end, FD even launched a GC for the sect, which is at least tolerated by the Alliance.
At the end of August it became known that two remote bases of the sect were found in the ETAIN System, namely "THE SANCTUM" on 4 A and "THE PROPHET" on 4 C.
As some Cmdrs here already reported, the atmosphere there is dark and oppressive and remotely reminiscent of the INRA bases. Thargoids occasionally appear and scan the buildings and containers as well as the present spaceships and SRVs. The stations have obviously been attacked, but it seems to have been conventional weapons, because there are no typical green Thargoid slime tracks. Some of the doors have been broken open. While approaching the The Prophet from afar, you can see a strange greenish glow or hull around the base.
There are no traces of life, but you can scan a total of 9 LOGs on both stations, which have been published several times already.
I have reviewed the logs one by one and come to the following conclusion:
(LOG 1)
Thaddeus McRaith
First herald 2nd Chapter
He invites others to retreat with him into crypts (stasis chambers) to preserve souls for the arrival of the Far God. Humanity would be killed on arrival, only the sect would survive. The Thargoids are the harbingers of the arrival of the Far God.
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(LOG 2)
Vanya Hargrave
Third Herald 1st Chapter
Survivor of her chapter who longs for death after progroms, trials, and hunger, to be subsequently rewarded by the Far God on a higher plane
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(LOG3)
Reuben Delgado
Pendant of the 7th chapter
Probably a drug abuser of the sect, depressed, disoriented under the influence of injections and with the desire not to get any more injections.
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(LOG 4)
Dr. Hester Dolmayne
First witness of the 6th chapter
Confident, joyful expectant woman. Confirmation of the stasis capsules. Confirmation that Thargoids are living beings that can move freely in space without a spaceship. Assumption of the transformation of humans from rescue capsules into Thargoid forms (and thus new evolutionary stage as "future of mankind").
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(LOG 5)
Klona O'Connor
Pendant of the 5th chapter
Anxious woman who wants to leave now. Confirmation of forthcoming stasis phase. Lived on the street, was lured away from there by monks (with the promise of a better life). Apparently not fully informed about the project ("doesn't understand what is happening").
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(LOG 6)
Nash Severin
Second disciple of the 5th chapter
Obviously anarchically minded man with great anticipation of a massacre of humanity. Wanted to meet the Thargoids since childhood. No interest in hierarchy ("I don't care about the Far God")
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(LOG 7)
Corinne de la Torre
Pendant of the 4th chapter
Hateful woman who tells her relatives, who seem to have traumatized her psychologically, that they will die by the Thargoids.
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(LOG 8)
Noah Whiteleaf
Second witness of the 1.st chapter
Probably a drug abuser of the sect, depressed, disoriented under the influence of injections and with the desire not to get any more injections.
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(LOG 9)
Nathan Summers
Pendant of the 16th chapter
Federal undercover agent
Confirms that the sect is almost certainly not spying for or communicating with the Thargoids. Confirms that the sect operates remote outposts. Considers them insane and hopes to be pulled out before they put him into stasis.
Thaddeus McRaith
First herald 2nd Chapter
He invites others to retreat with him into crypts (stasis chambers) to preserve souls for the arrival of the Far God. Humanity would be killed on arrival, only the sect would survive. The Thargoids are the harbingers of the arrival of the Far God.
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(LOG 2)
Vanya Hargrave
Third Herald 1st Chapter
Survivor of her chapter who longs for death after progroms, trials, and hunger, to be subsequently rewarded by the Far God on a higher plane
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(LOG3)
Reuben Delgado
Pendant of the 7th chapter
Probably a drug abuser of the sect, depressed, disoriented under the influence of injections and with the desire not to get any more injections.
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(LOG 4)
Dr. Hester Dolmayne
First witness of the 6th chapter
Confident, joyful expectant woman. Confirmation of the stasis capsules. Confirmation that Thargoids are living beings that can move freely in space without a spaceship. Assumption of the transformation of humans from rescue capsules into Thargoid forms (and thus new evolutionary stage as "future of mankind").
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(LOG 5)
Klona O'Connor
Pendant of the 5th chapter
Anxious woman who wants to leave now. Confirmation of forthcoming stasis phase. Lived on the street, was lured away from there by monks (with the promise of a better life). Apparently not fully informed about the project ("doesn't understand what is happening").
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(LOG 6)
Nash Severin
Second disciple of the 5th chapter
Obviously anarchically minded man with great anticipation of a massacre of humanity. Wanted to meet the Thargoids since childhood. No interest in hierarchy ("I don't care about the Far God")
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(LOG 7)
Corinne de la Torre
Pendant of the 4th chapter
Hateful woman who tells her relatives, who seem to have traumatized her psychologically, that they will die by the Thargoids.
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(LOG 8)
Noah Whiteleaf
Second witness of the 1.st chapter
Probably a drug abuser of the sect, depressed, disoriented under the influence of injections and with the desire not to get any more injections.
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(LOG 9)
Nathan Summers
Pendant of the 16th chapter
Federal undercover agent
Confirms that the sect is almost certainly not spying for or communicating with the Thargoids. Confirms that the sect operates remote outposts. Considers them insane and hopes to be pulled out before they put him into stasis.
Previous findings are confirmed
- that the Thargoids come from hyperspace ("Witchspace") and can move freely through space as living creatures without spaceships (therefore probably also "the death cries" when a Thargoid is shot down)
- that the occupants of the escape pods will be used by the Thargoids for transformation
- that the sect brings/forces its members into stasis capsules, which are then scanned by the Thargoids and probably taken in (so far unobserved).
- that the occupants of the escape pods will be used by the Thargoids for transformation
- that the sect brings/forces its members into stasis capsules, which are then scanned by the Thargoids and probably taken in (so far unobserved).
The undercover federal investigator from LOG 9 does not see any direct contacts of the sect to the Thargoids, which would only confirm the status of a sect for its own purpose and benefit. Here, of course, we have to ask what is meant by "direct contacts". Obviously, the agent is looking for indications of a bidirectional exchange of information or physical contacts between the sect leaders and the Thargoids.
Right now we only see the damaged bases and this enigmatic rotating installation "R-9" inside The Prophet. The damage to the stations that can be observed could actually be attributed to actions to free the agent before the stasis of the cult members begins/began.
Unknown is the function of the obviously still functioning rotating device "R-9" inside The Prophet. Is this a transmitter or beacon to attract Thargoids - and to offer the people in stasis to the Thargoids? How long has this "human smuggling" existed? How old is the sect of the Far God? In LOG 6 someone has been aware of the Thargs since childhood. So it must have existed for at least a few decades.
So slowly a suspicion grows inside of me.
Are the Thargoids searching for intelligent bio-forms everywhere in space in order to transform them - with their known genetic skills - into Thargoids? That would mean that they regard their species as the ultimate for which there is no acceptable alternative - all must become Thargoids.
This may also be the reason why mankind has not yet been destroyed by the Thargoids, what they could easily have done. They need our biomass.
This may also be the reason why mankind has not yet been destroyed by the Thargoids, what they could easily have done. They need our biomass.
So far they only have searched purposefully and have left the rest alone. They leave SOL unharmed, they don't destroy the stations and ships completely, they collect what they need.
And here comes my last argument:
in different threads I have pointed out several times and provided pictorial evidence that with the convoys as with the large transport ships all of the containers were examined by the Thargoids, but in the majority always only certain were " cracked ", namely those of CAINE-MASSEY and BREWER.
And now please look at the containers we find in The Sanctum and The Prophet: only those with the inscriptions of the above-mentioned galaxy-wide operating companies CAINE-MASSEY and BREWER.
So did these two companies carry out human transports since a long time that the Thargoids knew about and attacked them?
So it is possible that long time ago, after the first Thargoid war and the direct contacts with the Thargoids that (according to the Lore) took place, there was an agreement, as perverse as it may sound: we give you a free hand here in the bubble, as long as you give us a free hand as well. Translated: You can fish people here as long as we - The Club and the Super Powers - can pursue our interests unhindered.
With the discovery of the Guardian bases and the development of Guardian weapons, this agreement has been disrupted. Now the Guardians have even helped us to get new ships with the lately discovered Beacons - their relics are our salvation in the fight against the increasing Thargoid threat.
Personally I think the sects are just nutters - but that they may have found a way to "attract" Thargoids - those collected are bound for the dinner plate or worse.
Reminds me of the "Quatermass Conclusion" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quatermass_(TV_serial) - where the Cult of Planet People worship at stone circles believing they will be transported to a better life on an alien world. Well worth a watch if you can find it - exactly the classic type of British SF that Elite was born form.
Edit - found the full transcript
Huffity, puffity, Ringstone Round,
If you lose your hat it will never be found,
So pull your britches right up to your chin,
And fasten your cloak with a bright new pin,
And when you are ready, then we can begin,
Huffity, puffity, puff!
Reminds me of the "Quatermass Conclusion" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quatermass_(TV_serial) - where the Cult of Planet People worship at stone circles believing they will be transported to a better life on an alien world. Well worth a watch if you can find it - exactly the classic type of British SF that Elite was born form.
Edit - found the full transcript
Huffity, puffity, Ringstone Round,
If you lose your hat it will never be found,
So pull your britches right up to your chin,
And fasten your cloak with a bright new pin,
And when you are ready, then we can begin,
Huffity, puffity, puff!
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This is why I did a lot of S&R when the Thargoids first showed up. Don't regret that decision, even if most of them were FedRats.
Jasmina Halsey
I haven't seen much speculation around Jasmina Halsey and her involvement for a few months
e.g. https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/423287-Jasmina-Halsey
Whether she met some Guardian remnant or Thargoids has been an open question. Given her original language I was leaning towards Guardians and somehow supplying clues to Ram Tah.
https://community.elitedangerous.com/en/galnet/uid/572219269657baaa2efde6b6
The Etain logs posted above by Henoch got me thinking about whether she is behind the cults somehow though.
I haven't seen much speculation around Jasmina Halsey and her involvement for a few months
e.g. https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/423287-Jasmina-Halsey
Whether she met some Guardian remnant or Thargoids has been an open question. Given her original language I was leaning towards Guardians and somehow supplying clues to Ram Tah.
https://community.elitedangerous.com/en/galnet/uid/572219269657baaa2efde6b6
The Etain logs posted above by Henoch got me thinking about whether she is behind the cults somehow though.
Really interesting points! And the research along the links you gave brought me back to nearly forgotten issues! Thank you for that.
In the light of recent Galnet news and the fact, that FD continues to play that card, I am looking forward to new developments - or another CG to end this BGS??
While it's possible there could be some Guardian exiles still around, it's more likely that it's the Constructors behind this. They're responsible for wiping the Guardians out, and are likely why COL 70 and/or CONE are permit locked. Hard to hide borgified space without locking it away from prying eyes. Thargoid activity has been detected out towards the California nebula, while Guardian space borders COL 70. Lastly, Merope is of major significance to the Thargoids and that mystery still remains a mystery. I have a feeling something is hidden in the system and needs to be found similar to how Generation Ships are discovered. We have a point of reference to fly towards. Barnard's Loop.
My prediction is that at some point in the not too distant future, Humans and Thargoids will have to put aside differences and work together to defeat the Constructors.
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Two New Surface Sites in Etain:
The Prophet (attacked) at Etain 4 C
The Sanctum (unconfirmed) at Etain 4 A
Found via Eagle Eye - finally it gets something interesting
Oh, and they are Far God related
Are they more of the same, or Different in any way? please!
Latest Galnet news are suggestive of downplaying the sect. No contacts with Thargoids? When you go to the two bases in Etain you'll meet them. The latest Galnet news contradict the logs at the stations. By the way, has anyone tried to find further bases? Such as with INRA? Or do you think FD will settle this BGS?
Thanks for posting the audio loggs. I never would know what this was all about without you posting this...
Good stuff ty. Way to go FD
Reminds me of this chick tract https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net...ckTract.gif/revision/latest?cb=20070822125208