Hardware & Technical Internet speed of 1 Gb / s

Yes/No, depending on platter, and other restraints, and yes I am aware in general though various drives can do a lot in speeds, but these are often by using the cache available in the drive last I checked, when cache is saturated speeds go down.
Physical Harddrive discs have their limit simply by their nature, you have to remember sata 1 was 1.5 gbps and physical spinning discs couldn't even saturate that, and it isn't like hdd transfer rates have increased dramatically on physical spinning disk hdd's since then, the extra bandwidth afforded by sata 2 and above is really only an advantage to things that need to cross talk or high speed ssd's as well as the various communication overheads, also remember that writes are generally slower then reads.

Mechanical HDDs have poor random performance, but the sequential performance on anything that isn't positively ancient is fairly solid as it scales with areal density of the platters. The larger mechanical HDDs get, the faster they are at the same platter count because more sectors are passing under the heads at any given RPM. The 40 dollar WD Blue 5400rpm 2.5" drive that came with the last cheap laptop I bought has better sequential performance than the 10k rpm WD Raptors I had in 2004.

A five year old, 5400rpm laptop HDD can sustain reads and writes in excess of 100MB/s (800Mbps) and a modern 7200rpm desktop drive will push around 200MB/s (1600Mbps) on it's outer tracks. That's the physical performance of the media and will be achieved with no use of any cache at all. This is easily demonstrated with any HDD benchmark program, or by copying a large file from one drive to another. Performance on the innermost tracks can fall to about half of the outermost tracks, and fragmentation or other factors can reduce things further, but you aren't going to find a mechanical HDD that's the limiting factor in the download speeds of a 250Mbps connection unless you go way back. Even if one is getting the bulk of their advertised 1Gbps speeds, a modern, fast, mechanical drive that isn't full or being used by other disk heavy apps will usually not be the limiting factor.

Examples of the sequential performance of some modern mechanical HDDs (last two are 5400rpm, rest are 7200rpm):
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The main advantage of consumer SSDs has never been sequential performance; an SATA SSD is only 2-4x as fast as a mechanical HDD in this regard. They can easily have hundreds of times the random access performance, which is a big part of responsiveness, and that's their main advantage.
 

Brett C

Frontier
In the advertisements of ISP in my region, I see offers to 1 Gb / s download.

However the ad always says "up to" 1 Gb/s and says "if your hardware is enough recent to accept 1 Gb/s".

My equipment is 4-5 years old.

An CPU Intel 4770k with 8GB of DDR3 at 1866Mhz and a Gigabit Intel network (10/100/1000) chip on motherboard Asus Maximus Hero VI, and a SSD Samsung 850 Pro will accept the speed of 1Gb /s ?

Thanks to the connoisseurs for their opinions.

ISP's that provide a fiber connection to your place/residence/whatever is always going to be a "fractional 1Gbps line", it's never dedicated bandwidth. You're sharing a single fiber strand upstream, that might be split up 64 different ways, most common is 32 ways to a single fiber line. This means that if the others on the shared multimode fiber line is actively using 1Gbps as well, you probably won't see 1Gbps on your end, as the others are taking up said bandwidth.

Wikipedia gives a generic overview of fiber and its associated types: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-mode_optical_fiber - So 'up-to' just simply means, 'best-effort bandwidth'.


As for your computer hardware, Intel 4770k will not have an issue with pushing 1Gbps speeds. Your NIC card has to support 10/100/1000 Ethernet - which it does based per that Mobo used. Just about every machine's motherboard since 2010 has been built with this standard. That SSD is more than capable of pushing 1Gbps bandwidth, receive and transmit - afterall, 1Gbps is about 125MB/s. At this point in time, with 1Gbps LAN<->WAN, you may need to check with the MTU values at your router and machine and switch. This article on this site here is a worthwhile read on that: http://rickardnobel.se/actual-throughput-on-gigabit-ethernet/

It should be noted that 1Gbps from WAN to LAN, isp's generally say "940Mbps is what you should expect to see".
 

Brett C

Frontier
Yes the provider provides the modem.

It's a GigaCenter Calix_854g-2

My connection would be direct by RJ 45 Ethernet cable.

I use Windows 7 Pro and (also Windows 10 Pro later).

Thanks for the suggestion of the pilot for the Intel chip.

:)

Just saw this as well. Calix is a great company for Fiber<->Ethernet transceiver handoff.

However, if you're able to negotiate with your provider (you never know!), and if you're willing the investment (about 750ish USD), consider a SFP/SFP+ module on a pfSense hardware installation. You may be able to skip the Calix and ISP provided router... and have slightly more control on things. ;)
 
ISP's that provide a fiber connection to your place/residence/whatever is always going to be a "fractional 1Gbps line", it's never dedicated bandwidth. You're sharing a single fiber strand upstream, that might be split up 64 different ways, most common is 32 ways to a single fiber line.
Access and distribution networks are getting obscene these days with the final "switch ports" getting ever closer to the customer. Cable Labs are working on 100Tb/s infrastructure. What ISPs are putting into their switching cabinets and under the road is anyone's guess though.
 
Of course it could vary with local.
But it is not unlikely that a 'to your home' ISP can deliver a full gigabit.

I could order such a line right now in fact.
It's in their commonly available broadband packages.

Granted they want my shirt for it.
Twice what we are paying now monthly but the way this is worded they are under law of advertisement to deliver the full, or at least very very close to full gigabits.
 
ISP's that provide a fiber connection to your place/residence/whatever is always going to be a "fractional 1Gbps line", it's never dedicated bandwidth. You're sharing a single fiber strand upstream, that might be split up 64 different ways, most common is 32 ways to a single fiber line. This means that if the others on the shared multimode fiber line is actively using 1Gbps as well, you probably won't see 1Gbps on your end, as the others are taking up said bandwidth.

Wikipedia gives a generic overview of fiber and its associated types: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-mode_optical_fiber - So 'up-to' just simply means, 'best-effort bandwidth'.


As for your computer hardware, Intel 4770k will not have an issue with pushing 1Gbps speeds. Your NIC card has to support 10/100/1000 Ethernet - which it does based per that Mobo used. Just about every machine's motherboard since 2010 has been built with this standard. That SSD is more than capable of pushing 1Gbps bandwidth, receive and transmit - afterall, 1Gbps is about 125MB/s. At this point in time, with 1Gbps LAN<->WAN, you may need to check with the MTU values at your router and machine and switch. This article on this site here is a worthwhile read on that: http://rickardnobel.se/actual-throughput-on-gigabit-ethernet/

It should be noted that 1Gbps from WAN to LAN, isp's generally say "940Mbps is what you should expect to see".

Very interesting ! Thanks for your confirmations and the links.

Effectively 940 Mb/s seems among the maximum that I saw in the different tests on the Web.
 
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Just saw this as well. Calix is a great company for Fiber<->Ethernet transceiver handoff.

Excellent news here. :)

However, if you're able to negotiate with your provider (you never know!), and if you're willing the investment (about 750ish USD), consider a SFP/SFP+ module on a pfSense hardware installation. You may be able to skip the Calix and ISP provided router... and have slightly more control on things. ;)

Seems inaccessible with ISPs in France, and also with my wallet and I also think, with the French legislation (But maybe it's possible, I don't know in fact).

In any case, I keep this idea in my memory

:p
 
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Of course it could vary with local.
But it is not unlikely that a 'to your home' ISP can deliver a full gigabit.

I could order such a line right now in fact.
It's in their commonly available broadband packages.

Granted they want my shirt for it.
Twice what we are paying now monthly but the way this is worded they are under law of advertisement to deliver the full, or at least very very close to full gigabits.

Here the triple play offer (1gb/s download and 250 Mb/s upload) at the regional ISP serious and recognized is 56 euros TTC monthly.

With over 100 HD TV channels and unlimited telephony to landline and mobile phones.
 
Effectively 940 Gb/s seems among the maximum that I saw in the different tests on the Web.

Still very good.

I know a lot of discussion has been about a single PC being able to handle 1gb, but I think most users (like me) would be sharing that 1gb with the rest of the family.

That said, I upgraded to 1gb switches and cables last year, just waiting on the new speeds to hit the low tech Berkshires.
 
Still very good.

I know a lot of discussion has been about a single PC being able to handle 1gb, but I think most users (like me) would be sharing that 1gb with the rest of the family.

That said, I upgraded to 1gb switches and cables last year, just waiting on the new speeds to hit the low tech Berkshires.

Yes to make several things simultaneously is the main objective of this kind of connection
 
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I know a lot of discussion has been about a single PC being able to handle 1gb, but I think most users (like me) would be sharing that 1gb with the rest of the family.

You have been able to swamp a 1Gb LAN link fairly easily with a home PC for absolute years. I can swamp my 10Gb LAN for lulz. Having 1Gb as a WAN link though is pretty sweet - we could only dream of those speeds years ago, and it's becoming increasingly available. Symmetric Gb FTTP is available nearby, but most frustratingly, my area isn't in the immediate rollout :(
 
You have been able to swamp a 1Gb LAN link fairly easily with a home PC for absolute years. I can swamp my 10Gb LAN for lulz. Having 1Gb as a WAN link though is pretty sweet - we could only dream of those speeds years ago, and it's becoming increasingly available. Symmetric Gb FTTP is available nearby, but most frustratingly, my area isn't in the immediate rollout :(

Yes the progress is underway.

The sysmétrique debit 1 Gb/s in FTTH is available also in my region.

In France in the "rural" zones, it is the fiber networks of public initiative which are built and financed by the government, the regions, the departments and the communities of communes.

The fiber networks in medium and big cities are generally built and financed by the major national operators (FAI) who generates billions of euros of revenue per month.
 
Yesterday I worked with the technicians to install the fiber at my home.

We installed 60 meters of cable, from the optical branching point (located under the pavement in the street) up to the inside of the house through the attic.

When installing the optical plug i nthe house, a technician cut the spare fiber in the cable :eek:

Fortunately there are two fibers in the cable :) ...

Now the fiber runs from my house up to the optical branching point.

But there is no signal between the optical branching point and the optical connection node, located 300 meters from my home :(

So I have to wait a few days for that they verify the network ... :rolleyes:
 
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I received the fiber today.

To confirm all the good advice of the Cmdrs in this thread and especially concerning the capacity of my computer (hardware of 2013) to manage the Gb/s, I share the average flow received with the NPerf tester.

Thanks again to all the Cmdrs for their good expertise.

:)

https://imgur.com/a/smByUo8
 
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I received the fiber today.

To confirm all the good advice of the Cmdrs in this thread and especially concerning the capacity of my computer (hardware of 2013) to manage the Gb/s, I share the average flow received with the NPerf tester.

Thanks again to all the Cmdrs for their good expertise.

:)

https://imgur.com/a/smByUo8

Woah. I just opened this post and it flew out of my monitor and is embedded in the wall behind me. Careful chucking posts around at that speed!

(crazy kids these days...)

p.s. are you going to upgrade your username so? Patrick_G4?
 
are you going to upgrade your username so? Patrick_G4?

I don't think so.

Because I am always dependent on the servers of the sites that I visit.

For example the Frontier forums are not faster on my screen than when I had Vdsl.

However on other sites ... "Road Runner and Wile E. Coyote" :p
 
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What I also like with the fiber is that the image of the TV has a better quality.

Before I was in HD with HDMI via a TV decoder and now I am connected directly in HD with a coaxial cable from the TV to the Box without an external decoder.
 
I received the fiber today.

To confirm all the good advice of the Cmdrs in this thread and especially concerning the capacity of my computer (hardware of 2013) to manage the Gb/s, I share the average flow received with the NPerf tester.

Thanks again to all the Cmdrs for their good expertise.

:)

https://imgur.com/a/smByUo8

Looks like it's a bit too fast for text though, it's scrambling all letters up in the words on that website so they don't make sense. That's going to take some getting used to :)
 
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