Too MUCH to do. Problem is it isn't all going to be fun...

[TheMegaTurnip]

PvP is actually a playstyle that fully maintains the rush you get from your first few fights, especially against experienced opponents.

Even after over a year of constant PvP competitions and fights it still makes me rush and sweat.

Actually so much more rewarding than NPC's too. So much so they never feel quite the same to fight ever again.

 

[NecasekO]

Just realised another thing I haven't done yet, use a neutron or white dwarf for FSD boost. I'm really scared of them, lol.

White dwarfs are evil, be very careful around them

Just a note on this - you have to have a fuel scoop equipped to get the FSD boost. I don't think this is mentioned anywhere in the game (now that I think of it even the fact that you can get a FSD boost from certain stars is kinda secret). When I first tried it I used a white dwarf somewhere in the bubble and was wondering what I'm doing wrong when I didn't get any boost after several attempts. It was because I don't carry a fuel scoop unless I travel somewhere far away.

 

[Aashenfox]

Exactly.

Tho there are few things you mentioned I'm not interested in (namely PvP and thagroid hunting), what is left is enough to keep me busy for the next year. The problem - which you already identified - is that it's not very engaging, entertaining and fun.


Engage (positively or negatively) with Thargoids - not interested much in that due to I'm no longer combat oriented pilot, leaning toward trading and exploration with occasional bounty hunting.

Avail yourself of guardian lore and equipment - went after FSD booster. I must admit it was quite interesting after the boring and tedious parts (searching for site, grinding for materials). Whole site, visit and fighting drones was good. Having to follow YT guide and wasting time to get RNG dependant materials - not so much. Unlocked one module and due to drawbacks I'm heavily hesitant toward doing more.

Get a Corvette - got one, already sold due to lack of funds to maintain it.

Get a Cutter - got one, already sold due to lak of funds to maintain it.

Reach Elite - combat elite is not my game. Trade elite is boringly tedious since profits are way underperforming compared to requirements - long term goal that one day will be met, "by the way". Exploration elite - even more boringly tedious.

Reach triple Elite - while trading and exploration I may eventually get, the combat part is "ugh, no thanks, I'll stand"

Own all the ships that you want to own and fully engineer them - requires metric tons of credits = lots of time invested

Unlock all the engineers - with the weird requirements, lack of reliable material source which in the end is reduced to long grind runs... I'm quite happy with G5 FSD available.

Get your name on some stuff for first discovery - done that, on several nice systems. Frankly it's the easiest to achieve. Take Adder, fit fuel scoop, pick a destination and just jump-honk-jump-honk till you get to unexplored system.

Git gud - I'm a big CMDR, I'm good with me being below average.

Unlock the powerplay modules you want - PvP is a no-no.

Build a ship that can do 800m/s and try your hand at canyon running. - that actually can be quite interesting. But again, it requires credits and engineers.

Adopt a minor faction and help them expand by doing missions for influence - naah, too much self centered to help anybody :3

Do PvP - too old for that, had my fair share when I was younger. Now I'm more big belly truck driver.



Looking at that list it all comes down to credits and materials. With credits you can buy whatever ship you want and outfit it whatever you like. With materials you can unlock engineers and later engineer your ship in a way you desire. With engineered ship you can PvP/Thagroid hunt or Power Play.

So it's all about credits and materials. Sadly FDEVs are adamant at limiting those two as much as they can. It's almost 2 years as I'm a CMDR. Most of that time I spent OFFLINE. Mostly because the things I want to do takes too much time and effort compared to reward and accomplishement, not because there's nothing to do.

My general advice - one step at a time.

I once took more than I could swallow and got frustrated. After that I changed approach and made considerable progress. But I was overzealous and ended with goals reached but empty account. Now I'm on my another "afk" times but slowly feel the call. I have re-assessed my fleet and credits and I plan some changes - sell few ships, got Anaconda back and from there start (again) toward Cutter and Corvette. Next? Who knows.

One step at a time...

Thanks for sharing in such detail, always interesting to hear how others play

White dwarfs are evil, be very careful around them

Just a note on this - you have to have a fuel scoop equipped to get the FSD boost. I don't think this is mentioned anywhere in the game (now that I think of it even the fact that you can get a FSD boost from certain stars is kinda secret). When I first tried it I used a white dwarf somewhere in the bubble and was wondering what I'm doing wrong when I didn't get any boost after several attempts. It was because I don't carry a fuel scoop unless I travel somewhere far away.

Good tip, I didn't know that, and I don't carry a fuel scoop on anything (except explorers and the courier, because it has a size 2 fuel tank), so you definitely saved me some trouble there. Cheers!

 

[sollisb]

I see a lot of people saying there's nothing to do in Elite. I must disagree. In fact, it can be argued there is too much to do nowadays.

Engage (positively or negatively) with Thargoids
Avail yourself of guardian lore and equipment
Get a Corvette
Get a Cutter
Reach Elite
Reach triple Elite
Own all the ships that you want to own and fully engineer them
Unlock all the engineers
Get your name on some stuff for first discovery
Git gud
Unlock the powerplay modules you want
Build a ship that can do 800m/s and try your hand at canyon running.
Adopt a minor faction and help them expand by doing missions for influence
Do PvP

I've been playing on and off for three years. I still need to:

1) Rank up Ram Tah (put off because I haven't really needed him yet)
2) Do something more meaningful with the thargoids (don't have an AX ship currently and not willing to repurpose an existing one)
3) Unlock any guardian modules
4) Reach Elite (one more evening of trading should fix that, I'm 75% tycoon, no rush)
5) Reach triple Elite (now not that far off, I'm Tycoon 75%, Pioneer 55% and Dangerous 25%)
6) Gittin' gud never ends
7) Still a few ships I want to build and own
8) Have not unlocked any PP modules yet
9) Haven't done any serious BGS work yet
10) Haven't done any serious pvp yet.

But despite having so much still to do, I am in a quandary what to do next...because...

1) That's not going to be fun, I might get around to it one day, it will only take an hour.
2) I don't have the money or materials right now to build an AX ship, nor the guardian unlocks to make fighting thargoids interesting
3) See above (I don't really feel a need for more jump range, what a waste of a slot, same for shield booster)
4) That will come soon anyway
5) Ongoing...
6) Ongoing...don't feel a need to push for trade or exploration elite cos they're so close already and combat elite is still so far as to not be worth pushing for yet.
7) Just run out of money (well, down to 300m, which I consider low) and G5 materials again and not looking forward to restocking my G5 mats, might just wait for 3.3 for that.
8) This is really what I want to do next, there are loads of modules that I want, but its just a waiting game, not much fun to be had.
9) Other things first
10) Other things first

So I have a choice of grinds, and I don't generally grind. What I'll probably do is carry on trying to make money, but to be honest, I'm getting bored of doing the same tired missions over and over as well.

Inspire me please guys n gals.

Take this for what it's worth...

On my current main account I have around ~10bn assets with 2.5 always liquid. Most of this is made using VolleyBoom and Pax Missions. Risk is pretty much zero. But why the need for credits? Well.. I like big ships, but that's immaterial. I like being able to buy anything, anytime and not even need to look at the balance.

This also plays into some of your quandries. By being able to buy any ship, you naturally do.. And that then requires Engineering. Engineering requires materials. Materials are got via Pax & VB Missions. Naturally you'll need to surface prospect as well, which necessitates an engineered utility ship. Obviously you'll want the best looking ships, so you'll need to grind the Cutter rank, which is data missions which return materials. Notice, I'm using missions to gain materials, and not necessarily credits... When my liquid assets drop below 2.5bn I spend a weekend getting them back.

While I think the game design sux, I'm stuck with it or leave. I give myself the impetus to grind but, I grind the way I want, and in luxury

Seriously, when you can hop over to Jameson, and buy a fully ARated anything, it makes things so much easier and indeed, dare the words ever cross my lips.... More Enjoyable. And by being so, it makes the grind that little less bothersome.

This day last week, I bought a new Vette. Which brought my balance below 1bn (980m) or so. I then engineered it as much as I could, then jumped in my Pax Conda and spent Sat/Sun and got my assets back to 2.5bn. Part of that also got me most of the remaining G5 materials. This week, in the evenings I bought another FDL beam machine, and engineered that.

It's a constant circle of buying ships, engineering them and then missions to gain credits/materials.

This account is 7W played, Full Empire, Full Fed, Elite Trade, Deadly Combat, Elite Explorer and most Engineers Unlocked.
My Fleet; 3x Cutter, 2xVette, 3xAnaconda, 1xT10, 4xPython, 2xFDL, 1xVulture, Clipper, DBX, AspX, Courier, Viper

o7

 

[CmdMarty]

Sure theres plenty do but its not hard accept to find the time since its mostly all time sink content and feels like a job after the initial learning experience is over.

 

[Ozmodion]

Exactly.

Tho there are few things you mentioned I'm not interested in (namely PvP and thagroid hunting), what is left is enough to keep me busy for the next year. The problem - which you already identified - is that it's not very engaging, entertaining and fun.


Engage (positively or negatively) with Thargoids - not interested much in that due to I'm no longer combat oriented pilot, leaning toward trading and exploration with occasional bounty hunting.

Avail yourself of guardian lore and equipment - went after FSD booster. I must admit it was quite interesting after the boring and tedious parts (searching for site, grinding for materials). Whole site, visit and fighting drones was good. Having to follow YT guide and wasting time to get RNG dependant materials - not so much. Unlocked one module and due to drawbacks I'm heavily hesitant toward doing more.

Get a Corvette - got one, already sold due to lack of funds to maintain it.

Get a Cutter - got one, already sold due to lak of funds to maintain it.

Reach Elite - combat elite is not my game. Trade elite is boringly tedious since profits are way underperforming compared to requirements - long term goal that one day will be met, "by the way". Exploration elite - even more boringly tedious.

Reach triple Elite - while trading and exploration I may eventually get, the combat part is "ugh, no thanks, I'll stand"

Own all the ships that you want to own and fully engineer them - requires metric tons of credits = lots of time invested

Unlock all the engineers - with the weird requirements, lack of reliable material source which in the end is reduced to long grind runs... I'm quite happy with G5 FSD available.

Get your name on some stuff for first discovery - done that, on several nice systems. Frankly it's the easiest to achieve. Take Adder, fit fuel scoop, pick a destination and just jump-honk-jump-honk till you get to unexplored system.

Git gud - I'm a big CMDR, I'm good with me being below average.

Unlock the powerplay modules you want - PvP is a no-no.

Build a ship that can do 800m/s and try your hand at canyon running. - that actually can be quite interesting. But again, it requires credits and engineers.

Adopt a minor faction and help them expand by doing missions for influence - naah, too much self centered to help anybody :3

Do PvP - too old for that, had my fair share when I was younger. Now I'm more big belly truck driver.



Looking at that list it all comes down to credits and materials. With credits you can buy whatever ship you want and outfit it whatever you like. With materials you can unlock engineers and later engineer your ship in a way you desire. With engineered ship you can PvP/Thagroid hunt or Power Play.

So it's all about credits and materials. Sadly FDEVs are adamant at limiting those two as much as they can. It's almost 2 years as I'm a CMDR. Most of that time I spent OFFLINE. Mostly because the things I want to do takes too much time and effort compared to reward and accomplishement, not because there's nothing to do.

My general advice - one step at a time.

I once took more than I could swallow and got frustrated. After that I changed approach and made considerable progress. But I was overzealous and ended with goals reached but empty account. Now I'm on my another "afk" times but slowly feel the call. I have re-assessed my fleet and credits and I plan some changes - sell few ships, got Anaconda back and from there start (again) toward Cutter and Corvette. Next? Who knows.

One step at a time...

Hmm.......me thinks someone needs to play another game, you must fly out the letter box, float around a bit, think about the things you dont want to do (pretty much everything) and then fly back in the letterbox.....

 

[Maro-Val]

I went from Colonia to beagle point and back home through the core of our galaxy and hawkins gap where i visited the settlements, but every about 10 or 15 K light years i was filtering what POIs i liked on my route in edsm and i made even 5K deviations to visit all of them. You must first built a 75-80 LY neutron jumpaconda, makes a trip like that amazing.

I had edmc running and i was watching my course on a second monitor on the edsm galaxy with the POIs activated around me. I made 2 friends in Colonia area, i met with one of them close to the core in the middle of nowhere for photos and i came back with stunning discoveries under my belt. Best trip i had .

Highly recommended.

 

[CMDR Cosmic Spacehead]

Here's what I also do.


Whatever. Lol

I literally log in and picks random task to do.

Last session: Visit a creepy surface port being investigated by Thargoids. That was fun, although I do wish I'd tried jumping my SRV on the Thargoid like Alec did... Lol

Previous Session:
Buy an Asp and outfit it for no apparent reason. My shiny new Asp 'Unrelenting Fart', has no purpose.

Previous Session:
Unlock a guardian fighter. I planned to do all 3, but lacked some obelisk data. Couldn't be bothered to go back and get more. So I just have 1 fighter for now.

A few months back, I just decided to use just an Eagle for everything, and made some daft videos to share. (should be in my sig, failing that, Google 'cosmic Spacehead eagle adventure'... Lol don't expect much, they're crap videos!)

I also decided to buy a Corvette. Then sold it again. Lol

And so on.

CMDR Cosmic Spacehead

 

[DaggerSnake]

I'm planning on finally getting out there with a serious exploration and mining trip, but waiting on Chapter 4. There's no point in starting that now.
I'm currently just bouncing around Gaurdian Ruins, gathering info and materials to bring back and unlock guardian gear.

I've actually really been enjoying CQC in VR, I can usually find games on the weekend evenings.

 

[Aashenfox]

I went from Colonia to beagle point and back home through the core of our galaxy and hawkins gap where i visited the settlements, but every about 10 or 15 K light years i was filtering what POIs i liked on my route in edsm and i made even 5K deviations to visit all of them. You must first built a 75-80 LY neutron jumpaconda, makes a trip like that amazing.

I had edmc running and i was watching my course on a second monitor on the edsm galaxy with the POIs activated around me. I made 2 friends in Colonia area, i met with one of them close to the core in the middle of nowhere for photos and i came back with stunning discoveries under my belt. Best trip i had .

Highly recommended.

A serious exploratoin trip is definitely on the menu for chapter 4.

 

[IndigoWyrd]

I see a lot of people saying there's nothing to do in Elite. I must disagree. In fact, it can be argued there is too much to do nowadays.

Engage (positively or negatively) with Thargoids
Avail yourself of guardian lore and equipment
Get a Corvette
Get a Cutter
Reach Elite
Reach triple Elite
Own all the ships that you want to own and fully engineer them
Unlock all the engineers
Get your name on some stuff for first discovery
Git gud
Unlock the powerplay modules you want
Build a ship that can do 800m/s and try your hand at canyon running.
Adopt a minor faction and help them expand by doing missions for influence
Do PvP

Done nearly all of these myself. No real interest in minor factions* and absolutely no interest in PvP. They’re all just parts of the game. Personally I very enjoyed my time poking about the guardian ruins and sites. I’ve gotten as good as I need to be. Factions and politics don’t do it for me. Rank-building is a side effect if missions, and missions make up most of the game play

 

[V'larr]

"Restocking G5 mats"....

Yeah, I never had G5 mats stocked to begin with. Now I remember why I put the game back down even after I decided to at least pick up exploration for a bit.

If you can figure out the motivation to want to jump through those hoops, please do tell.

 

[akaliel]

You may want to add

Visit Colonia
Visit Sag A*
Visit Beagle Point
Unlock Colonia engineers
Visit Dav's Hope
Be in a CZ when a megaship drops in
Disable and drive away a megaship in a CZ
Discover an Earthlike World
Discover a waterworld
Discover an Amonia world
Fly in open to a trader CG
Make friends
Fly in a PG of friends
Do Muticrew with friends
Do Multicrew with randoms
Join the Fuel rats
Do a fuel rat mission
Destroy the wedding barge
Do a wing mission solo
Do a wing mission in a wing
Take part in an organised Expedition
Find Brain trees
Find Ice geysers
Find volcanic geysers
Pirate a player
Pirate a megaship
Pirate an NPC
Get a notoriety of 10
Get your notoriety back down to 0 without ship destruction
Rescue civilians from a damaged space station
Visit a player controlled megaship (Is there more than the Gnosis yet?/)
Visit Hutton Orbital, in a large ship
Buy a mug from Hutton
Buy one of each rare
Visit a Haz Res with ship containing all the rares
Visit a Haz Res with ship containing all the rares with a wing
Take down ships in a CZ using a fighter and relying on NPC control of your mother ship
Lose an NPC crew

Sorry, but this list sounds dreadfully boring.

 

[Aashenfox]

"Restocking G5 mats"....

Yeah, I never had G5 mats stocked to begin with. Now I remember why I put the game back down even after I decided to at least pick up exploration for a bit.

If you can figure out the motivation to want to jump through those hoops, please do tell.

I'm an OCD minmaxer, I love theorycrafting and building ships, it's a curse, so I do the occasional mat grind (to be fair, I'm VERY efficient at it now, but still, eugh...) in order to be able to continue to do that. I don't have a secret to share mate, I wish I did. :/

 

[Sylow]

[...]
Git gud
[...]

.
There's plenty on my list which I also still have to do. But this one, man... it just eludes me...
.

 

[V'larr]

I'm an OCD minmaxer, I love theorycrafting and building ships, it's a curse, so I do the occasional mat grind (to be fair, I'm VERY efficient at it now, but still, eugh...) in order to be able to continue to do that. I don't have a secret to share mate, I wish I did. :/

I've done more than my fair share of theorycrafting builds, thanks to the good graces of the creators behind edshipyard and coriolis(.edcd).io....But to sit and do the numbing vacuum grind...I can't...just can't.

I hope to see changes to USS, materials, Engineers, SRVs, and so on...but...I've also been hoping for over a year now to see change regarding "shared" XP and NPC permadeath, and where's that gotten me?

 

[Aashenfox]

I've done more than my fair share of theorycrafting builds, thanks to the good graces of the creators behind edshipyard and coriolis(.edcd).io....But to sit and do the numbing vacuum grind...I can't...just can't.

I hope to see changes to USS, materials, Engineers, SRVs, and so on...but...I've also been hoping for over a year now to see change regarding "shared" XP and NPC permadeath, and where's that gotten me?

Yeh uss generation improvements along with disco scanner improvements is what I'm really looking forward to in c4. May even just keep doing the trade and passenger missions til then. Might make double elite by the time it's out.

 

[Maro-Val]

A serious exploratoin trip is definitely on the menu for chapter 4.

Sounds like DW2

 

[Aashenfox]

Sounds like DW2

U going? That's a thought, is it supposed to be happening after c4 release? I hadn't even considered it. Hm...

 

[CMDR Cosmic Spacehead]

I always fancied join a DW expedition, but my play time is so limited, they'd have gotten there and back before I'd even gotten 1/10th of the way to my exploration ship.