Do we still see ED as being THE space game in 12 months?
Robert Maynard
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Indeed - just as mud-slinging is....
It comes down to different players liking (and disliking) different things which, taken to extremes, ends up in "YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT I LIKE" and "YOU LIKE WHAT I DON'T LIKE" - with inevitable disagreement regarding what changes would or would not constitute an "improvement" to the game (if such a change is even agreed to be necessary).
For some, E: D will, no doubt, never have been "THE space game" - for others it was and still is. People like different things, after all....
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Rogue System, Space Engineers (best game for me at doing this), Evochron plus others.
I think Space Engineers overall for me does it best, because you build the ship yourself and then fly it. No other feeling like that really in a space game.
It matters how you build it, for the way it flies, lands, moves and handles. It matters where thrusters are placed (mod required to get the complete experience). Plus of course you can get lost in thoughts of locations/departments within your ship. Although there is no crew at present, other than MP. But building a ship to fly with the prospects of 'in your head' crew, or indeed your friends, is great fun.
Evochron is another great game for pilot satisfaction. Rogue System if you want the all in depth and realism of flying a space ship, but lacks in many other areas.
But yeah, Space Engineers.
As of the present day, I am flying a major long exploration trip. All in the 'same' space.
They seem to have got over some of the floating point issues (fingers crossed it lasts)..Games like that offer much more in the piloting stakes, for me.
ED is a little point and push, everything will run itself..
I sometimes get the impression from some that you can only play one space game at a time.
Guess I'll have to uninstall Everspace when the Q4 update comes out and I take a look at it.
ED never was "the" space game for me. I got it with the Horizons season pass - promising a lot and never delivered. I exhausted the placeholder content within a few hours and uninstalled it to make room for X: Rebirth. Currently "the" space game is No Man's Sky for me. X4 might be next.
SimCity had more problems than being always online. The gameplay was more barebone than what they delivered with the previous iteration. Why buy the next game if it has less features than the one before?
To answer the question literally "Will ED be THE space game?" I think... possibly not ...or maybe.
First... is it even 'THE' space game now?
We have an active forum community here and it's all about ED (obv) but in my personal RL circle, many of whom are avid gamers, I'm the only one who currently plays ED. Just in my personal/friends circle 'THE' space game currently is NMS, a handful of my friends are still playing it after the NEXT update. Amongst my friends ED players (me) are even outnumbered by KSP players (2 of my friends). Three or four of my gaming friends used to play ED on PC years ago but stopped long before I eventually got into it last year (I'm on PS4). I wonder if we sometimes get so focused in this forum that we forget ED probably isn't as popular a game in the wider gaming world as we might think, some of the younger gamers I know haven't even heard of it.
Second - 12 months... that's a long time in games. This time last year we'd only just got into the return of the Thargoids. That seems like ages ago now.
I've also been playing NMS since it's NEXT update and given the amount of stuff HG packed into that in a year who knows what they might achieve in another 12 months time - they're already putting out feelers to the community for new content suggestions, more varied planets, VR support, larger multiplayer lobbies, improved bases, improved NPCs, etc. Imagine if they decided to improve the flight model and space combat?
X4 will have been around for almost a year and if well received may well be a firmly established favourite for many by then.
Star Citizen is probably still not going to be anywhere near a finished game by then, but their recent test update does at least seem to be playable at decent frame-rates.
Starfield won't be around yet, but we'll hopefully have more info on it by then - who knows what that might turn up.
ED - We don't know for sure yet of course, but thehype info so far from Frontier and and the recent visiting group of player representatives suggests that the Beyond Q4 update could be a game changer... and if we tack another twelve months on we should be at the point where some significant future DLC or paid update has at least been announced.
Will ED be 'THE' space game in a years time? Maybe... but even if it isn't it will still be 'A' potentially decent space game among a bunch of other potentially decent space games and I reckon that's not a bad thing at all.
First... is it even 'THE' space game now?
We have an active forum community here and it's all about ED (obv) but in my personal RL circle, many of whom are avid gamers, I'm the only one who currently plays ED. Just in my personal/friends circle 'THE' space game currently is NMS, a handful of my friends are still playing it after the NEXT update. Amongst my friends ED players (me) are even outnumbered by KSP players (2 of my friends). Three or four of my gaming friends used to play ED on PC years ago but stopped long before I eventually got into it last year (I'm on PS4). I wonder if we sometimes get so focused in this forum that we forget ED probably isn't as popular a game in the wider gaming world as we might think, some of the younger gamers I know haven't even heard of it.
Second - 12 months... that's a long time in games. This time last year we'd only just got into the return of the Thargoids. That seems like ages ago now.
I've also been playing NMS since it's NEXT update and given the amount of stuff HG packed into that in a year who knows what they might achieve in another 12 months time - they're already putting out feelers to the community for new content suggestions, more varied planets, VR support, larger multiplayer lobbies, improved bases, improved NPCs, etc. Imagine if they decided to improve the flight model and space combat?
X4 will have been around for almost a year and if well received may well be a firmly established favourite for many by then.
Star Citizen is probably still not going to be anywhere near a finished game by then, but their recent test update does at least seem to be playable at decent frame-rates.
Starfield won't be around yet, but we'll hopefully have more info on it by then - who knows what that might turn up.
ED - We don't know for sure yet of course, but the
Will ED be 'THE' space game in a years time? Maybe... but even if it isn't it will still be 'A' potentially decent space game among a bunch of other potentially decent space games and I reckon that's not a bad thing at all.
I hope that we see a X-Wing VR thown into the mix in the future....
Well, my impression from ED is that you're left with very little time to play anything else. Anyway, Ususally, when I play a game and like it, I play them quasi exclusively and there is little to break up an evening in two different gaming sessions. But that is just me.
To answer the question literally "Will ED be THE space game?" I think... possibly not ...or maybe.
First... is it even 'THE' space game now?
We have an active forum community here and it's all about ED (obv) but in my personal RL circle, many of whom are avid gamers, I'm the only one who currently plays ED. Just in my personal/friends circle 'THE' space game currently is NMS, a handful of my friends are still playing it after the NEXT update. Amongst my friends ED players (me) are even outnumbered by KSP players (2 of my friends). Three or four of my gaming friends used to play ED on PC years ago but stopped long before I eventually got into it last year (I'm on PS4). I wonder if we sometimes get so focused in this forum that we forget ED probably isn't as popular a game in the wider gaming world as we might think, some of the younger gamers I know haven't even heard of it.
Second - 12 months... that's a long time in games. This time last year we'd only just got into the return of the Thargoids. That seems like ages ago now.
I've also been playing NMS since it's NEXT update and given the amount of stuff HG packed into that in a year who knows what they might achieve in another 12 months time - they're already putting out feelers to the community for new content suggestions, more varied planets, VR support, larger multiplayer lobbies, improved bases, improved NPCs, etc. Imagine if they decided to improve the flight model and space combat?
X4 will have been around for almost a year and if well received may well be a firmly established favourite for many by then.
Star Citizen is probably still not going to be anywhere near a finished game by then, but their recent test update does at least seem to be playable at decent frame-rates.
Starfield won't be around yet, but we'll hopefully have more info on it by then - who knows what that might turn up.
ED - We don't know for sure yet of course, but thehypeinfo so far from Frontier and and the recent visiting group of player representatives suggests that the Beyond Q4 update could be a game changer... and if we tack another twelve months on we should be at the point where some significant future DLC or paid update has at least been announced.
Will ED be 'THE' space game in a years time? Maybe... but even if it isn't it will still be 'A' potentially decent space game among a bunch of other potentially decent space games and I reckon that's not a bad thing at all.
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Yeah, when I was playing ED, I only knew one other person in RL that was playing. He quit long before I did though. He thought it was a grind back when 1.5 dropped. The grind is why he and I stopped playing Evony way back when. (He kept going on that one after I left the game, so we obviously have different tolerances to it). I kept at it with ED until circa 3.2.
As FD upgrades the game, it might become more relevant (as in fun). I have hope for the game, but having moved on, I'm finding other games that are actually fun without being a second job. Time will tell if ED gets back on track.
Out of my friends, most are not avid gamers. The few who play games, tend to play shooters. My kids are into games like Overwatch and Fortnite (BR, not STW, they just see that as a vbucks farm) and of course, mobile games. I do know a few who bought ED and played it for varying amounts of time, but most of them short term. It is quiet a niche game. But when you get out there into the wider world, gaming, while a lot more popular than it used to be, is still pretty niche among the older generation.
I generally only play one game at a time, perhaps two. Real life and all that. Its not just space games, its games in general. At the moment i'm stretching at 3, but i'm getting comments from the wife....
It will be "the" space game on consoles until Starfield is released, and then who knows? I do think Rebel Galaxy Outlaw will give it some competition, but ultimately ED is unique in a way that no other game, not even NMS, comes close to on PS4 & XBox.
* we don't have X4 or Eve or any of the other alternatives
I look at ED very similar to the Arma series, player wise. There is a player-base that will still be playing in 20yrs and I'm not joking. I started the Arma series prior to it being the Arma series with OFP. Its nearly 20yrs later now and I'm still playing the series more than any other game I have. Mostly working/playing in the editor but enjoying every minute still. I have my fav in the series Arma2 plus the dlc's (which is the one I play, every week), that's almost a decade old now on its own.
So yes, 'this' Elite (I played the 84 one and wouldn't go back, obviously) will have players playing in 20yrs time probably, provided they keep the servers going. It's the type of game you can leave then return too, possibly much later and still get a good feeling from it.
It's just that type of game. I think that is why some of us are still hoping for certain things to come in ED, just to finish it off and provide that lonegevity to keep us players revisiting/playing the game. That said, I'm sure as it stands now, players will play for many years to come, if not decades.
So yes, 'this' Elite (I played the 84 one and wouldn't go back, obviously
) will have players playing in 20yrs time probably, provided they keep the servers going. It's the type of game you can leave then return too, possibly much later and still get a good feeling from it.It's just that type of game. I think that is why some of us are still hoping for certain things to come in ED, just to finish it off and provide that lonegevity to keep us players revisiting/playing the game. That said, I'm sure as it stands now, players will play for many years to come, if not decades.
When you look at who is holding the Star Wars licences, I'm not sure I would want to...
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Interesting point - after a break from gaming I heard of WoW but never played it - at least partly because it was so old by then ... but it's still here years later. Possibly ED has/will have the same issue with younglings.
Strikes me that some games like NMS / SC / ED are actually more like Second Life, i.e. open ended sims you can play forever - the recent SC demos certainly seem to be going in that direction. X4 doesn't fit as there's no social aspect, and Starfield is likely to be story driven, so less open ended.
Wouldn't be surprised to see people basically living inside those kind of games at some point, streamers already make money from sharing their experience - interesting times.