State of balancing grandfathered Plasma Accelerators?

FD don’t seem to have any thecnical issues with replacing old ADS with new FSS. They should just auto convert the legacy modules now.

At the same time, they could remove premium ammo, weapon specials and limmit defensve internals to military slots.

And max one SB per ship.
 
I think most would agree engineering is in its best place ever right now. I don't see the relationship between the need for the urgent removal of what are blatantly unfair advantages, and the fact that some people are still dissatisfied with engineering in general. Each can be treated separately, they are not intertwined.

Personally, I'm very happy with engineering, at least, let's see what the final form of HGE farming and planetary prospecting looks like in chapter 4, then I'll probably be very happy with engineering, yet I still want the grandfathered god mods removed.
Being in the best place its ever been is not a compliment with Engineering.

It is still an utterly trash system which has done permanent damage to Elite.

If they "whoopsied" and removed the entirety of engineering the game would be in an even better place.

If they could go back in time and not waste years implementing and tweaking the system in the first place Elite would be in a much better place.
 
I get to play by a more advantageous set of rules because I was here first.

I'd rather there be equality of opportunity.

I see, sympathize.


Break down to which game are we playing here I think.
A standard WoW clone like SWTOR (think MMO) would be severely unbalanced in its little stupid PvP instanced encounters. .... if featuring actual LEGACIES!
Featuring power, "possessed" and accessible by - a few.

Not so in Elite.
Sammarco, reimagine balance - featured by Frontier, made sure the average engineering was in par with the ship builds and in almost all but the rarest(lucky) builds up to the power level wielded earlier.
Any supposed Überwaffe has its counter in any well engineered ship.

My Über ClIPPER fore examples does no damage compared to the META, Aashenfox would laugh even more - his/her off if I would start shooting at him/her. Little does he/she know.


Cheers Morbad [up]







Carve your own way. I am fine with you folks. Stop complaining, play the damn game, its more there in it then just credits!

Time spend in it is rewarded.
 
Being in the best place its ever been is not a compliment with Engineering.

It is still an utterly trash system which has done permanent damage to Elite.

If they "whoopsied" and removed the entirety of engineering the game would be in an even better place.

If they could go back in time and not waste years implementing and tweaking the system in the first place Elite would be in a much better place.

I can't agree. It may be a shoddy implementation in your view, but some kind of 'enchanting' or equipment customisation for a purpose is necessary in such games to provide depth and reward intelligent choices. This was conspicuous in its absence before.
 
I can't agree. It may be a shoddy implementation in your view, but some kind of 'enchanting' or equipment customisation for a purpose is necessary in such games to provide depth and reward intelligent choices. This was conspicuous in its absence before.


Just make it so I feel 'enchanted'.
Thank you.
 
I agree a force convert of ALL legacy equipment would be the nicest outcome, but the uproar would be immense.
"FD doesn't value my time spent for doing tens of thousands of rolls" etc.
Forced conversion would probably be the wrong way to go - A suitable balanced compromise might be to, just nerf the weapon damage of weapons, and the integrity of upgrades. Make it so the older kit is balanced properly against the new balance benchmarks. Alternatively (or additionally), introduce random malfunctions for the grandfathered engineered kit.
 
introduce random malfunctions for the grandfathered engineered kit.

I like this idea.

How about "for every day a grandfathered item is equipped on your active ship, increase its chance to malfunction by 0.1%"?

The effect will be insignificant at first but people continuing to use grandfathered items in six months from now will be getting annoyed by the unreliability.
 
That set the context.
In any case, that has nothing to do with them simply doing what they said they were going to do.
Your opposition to this change doesn't make any sense, and as far as I can tell it doesn't even affect you.

That's not how context works.

I don't oppose a balancing pass, I just think its of very low importance and have no idea why the people bothered by it don't just ditch their own grandfathered stuff and pressurize other PVP'ers to do the same.

A self generated solution rather than screeching for FDEV to save you from your own grind inflicted over reliance on unnecessary min-max gear.
 
I have no sympathy for anyone who chose not to upgrade some PAs then, and instead chooses to whine about those 2.4 upgraded weapons now.

The think the term is:"You Snooze, You Loose" followed by "Suck it Up!"

1. God rolls often took a ridiculous amount of rolls to appear (because you wouldn't just look for the heat reduction secondary, but the 40% heat reduction secondary on top of god roll stats from the main mod).

2. Not everyone who plays, did play the game at all then.

3. We could reverse the situation, remove the grandfathered advantage entirely, and say "Suck it Up!" to those who would complain about losing their now unobtainable uber guns.
 
That's not how context works.

I don't oppose a balancing pass, I just think its of very low importance and have no idea why the people bothered by it don't just ditch their own grandfathered stuff and pressurize other PVP'ers to do the same.

A self generated solution rather than screeching for FDEV to save you from your own grind inflicted over reliance on unnecessary min-max gear.


Lol, and those are exactly the caricatures I find dishonest.

And that's exactly how context works.
 
Nope, I'm just going to accept you can't do context for whatever reason and not bother trying to explain it.



The context is this thread.
That was your opening phrase in that post.

I just went back and read the entire thread, and since your very first post in here you've shown only total ignorance and a deliberate attempt to mis-characterize the viewpoints being expressed.
You're just here to troll obviously.

People have been entirely reasonable for the most part.
The single person most resembling one of your descriptions in here, wasn't even worried about PAs!


Hahahahaha...
Put down the Lavian Brandy Cmdr.
 
The context is this thread.
That was your opening phrase in that post.

I just went back and read the entire thread, and since your very first post in here you've shown only total ignorance and a deliberate attempt to mis-characterize the viewpoints being expressed.
You're just here to troll obviously.

People have been entirely reasonable for the most part.
The single person most resembling one of your descriptions in here, wasn't even worried about PAs!


Hahahahaha...
Put down the Lavian Brandy Cmdr.

You need to take the context in context, its not an all or nothing thing.
 
Speaking as a PS4 user, It disappoints me knowing that there are weapons / / shields out there that I'm denied the option of using or even ever had the opportunity to get.
The PS4 was a late comer to the world of elite and all those users through no fault of their own have to settle for weaker less powerful, less usable option's. Come on FDev, level the playing field !
 
Speaking as a PS4 user, It disappoints me knowing that there are weapons / / shields out there that I'm denied the option of using or even ever had the opportunity to get.
The PS4 was a late comer to the world of elite and all those users through no fault of their own have to settle for weaker less powerful, less usable option's. Come on FDev, level the playing field !

You didn't miss out the new stuffs easier to get and better.
 
Speaking as a PS4 user, It disappoints me knowing that there are weapons / / shields out there that I'm denied the option of using or even ever had the opportunity to get.
The PS4 was a late comer to the world of elite and all those users through no fault of their own have to settle for weaker less powerful, less usable option's. Come on FDev, level the playing field !

Feel sorry for you. you very much DID miss out; there's a reason people have kept multiple legacy god-mods installed as the new stuff cannot equal them in many respects.
 
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