Not to sound ungrateful, but no love for LEP?
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So another month or so before people can start raging that the LEP content given by Frontier wasnt up to scratch.
why dont people just read this thread,
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/444800-Important-Community-Update
then we can all just stop going on about it ?
*edit late to the party NVM - still go read it
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/444800-Important-Community-Update
Greetings Commanders,
First of all, we would like to take a moment to thank you all for the continued support and making Elite Dangerous the incredible, community driven, phenomenon that it is today.
We started our Elite Dangerous journey over 6 years ago and today hundreds of thousands of Commanders log in regularly to continue their epic space journey. From a personal perspective, joining the team shortly after the kickstarter, and being a part of this incredible community has truly been one of the most amazing highlights of my career. From in-person community meet ups, online community groups and jaw-dropping events, you have always inspired us with your passion and enthusiasm.
We wanted to take a moment to talk about a number of topics being discussed in the community and to be as open and transparent as possible. It’s a long read, so make sure you’re safely docked and comfortable before attempting to navigate this post.
The things we’d like to go through include Chapter Four content and a little about a future beyond “Beyond”, as well as touching on the subject of “paid premium content” in 2018 for Lifetime Expansion Pass owners.
Let’s get started with Chapter Four content. As all of you know, our largest update of the year is in final development and will be available for players to get hands-on with in just a number of weeks (Some time in Q4).This will be the final update of 2018 and the Beyond season. The Beyond season was always something that we wanted to do in order to bring even more enhancements to the core experience of Elite and being able to dedicate a full development team (over 100 people!) for a full year of free content was specifically to gear ourselves up to support our long term vision for the game.
On a personal note, Squadrons is something I’m most excited by. Seeing our player groups grow and the stories they’ve created has been incredible and now being able to see them take that to the next level, formalize their groups in-game, TAG up and team up is something I’m really looking forward to.
There’s also a huge group of players who are most excited by the many new additions to exploration. I know from talking to so many of you online and in-person, this is a huge moment and the development team are working really hard to deliver new content and mechanics to give explorers that thrill of venturing out into the black. And then there’s even more with additions with significant mining enhancements, a full game visual upgrade and the Codex which all bring even more richness to the game experience and depth to the way people play. It’s certainly an update we’re all very excited to see the community explore.
We do have one exciting piece of news to share that to date, we have not shared with our community. A while ago, our development went from pre-production into full production on our next major milestone of Elite development.
What that means in the simplest terms is that the team are actively working on the next major landmark which takes us into our next era for Elite. We aren’t going to be ready to talk about or announce any details for quite a while yet, it is early in the development and there is still a long way to go, but I can say that this is something that will be scheduled to release a considerable time after the final update in the Beyond series. We will have more details on exactly what this means and how the era will roll out after the release of Beyond – Chapter Four, but this does mark some exciting next steps and a continued commitment to the long term vision for the game and our community.
Naturally, there will be community questions that might come up from this information. We aren’t going to be ready to talk about what method or model the content will be. What we can say is that it’s expected to be a major milestone in the history of Elite and will be paid content. Lifetime Expansion owners will obviously receive the content as part of their pass.
As part of pre-production, the team investigate all areas of the content and scope them out thoroughly. It’s important to take the time to be clear on what the vision for this is and how we imagine the content working. During this process, we have made a decision to adjust the focus of content that were previously planned for the Chapter Four update, adding some significant new gameplay, but it also means some other aspects will have to change. This means that some elements of content such as Ice Planets (which many of you will have seen some fantastic progress updates from LaveCon earlier this year) and Fleet Carriers for squadrons will not be coming as part of the Beyond – Chapter Four update. Some of the technology from the ice planets specifically will be used within our wider and global visual upgrade, so there will still be general improvements, but not everything we originally envisaged. However, we wanted you to be aware that these two elements specifically would be reprioritised out of the upcoming Beyond - Chapter Four update. What this does mean is that the rest of the content will be able to benefit for the changes in scheduling through deeper and richer gameplay mechanics. The Chapter Four update still has the same, if not bigger scope and continues to promise the largest update of the Beyond season and a truck load of great features for all Horizons Commanders for free. We’re very excited to be sharing the details with you over the coming weeks, so stay tuned for more info.
Another area that we’ve had a number of questions on is the “premium content” coming in 2018.
As many of you will know, we previously mentioned that premium (paid for) content would also be coming within the Beyond season of updates and that Lifetime Expansion Pass holders would be getting this for free. However, as we went through the early stages of what the next era for Elite Dangerous would be, we decided that it would be better to spend that additional time on the future content, rather than bringing new types of purchasable content out this year.
This is a big positive for the long term future of the game and its content. However, we also understand that there are people with Lifetime Expansion Passes who haven’t received paid for content in this season, because Beyond has been free to all owners of Horizons. We truly appreciate the support and commitment that those owners put in us when they purchased the LEP and we will be making sure that there is a form of free store content going out to them by the end of this year.
The most important thing we would like for our community to take from this, is that there are some incredibly exciting things just over the horizon. The Elite Dangerous development team is larger than it has been at any point in the last 6 years. It is thanks to your continued support, dedication, feedback and engagement that has made this possible. We have the Beyond Chapter Four update coming soon, our largest update in the Beyond season, with some awesome headline features and a fantastically promising future of content and ongoing development. We’re looking forward to sharing more details with you in the future. However, if you have any questions feel free to share them with us by posting in this thread and we’ll try and answer as many of them as we can.
Thanks
then we can all just stop going on about it ?
*edit late to the party NVM - still go read it
You should know as well as anyone that raging is not bound by any timescale
FDev have said they'll do one thing before the end of the year, and another thing won't be done before 3.3 is released (for practical purposes the end of the year).
Your commentary isn't going to change how people feel about that, but it is within your control not to wind potentially frustrated people up further. This is your choice.
The real question isn't "when are the LEP owners getting some love?", it's "when are FDev going to release paid for content for everyone else?".
I'd imagine that the answer to that question is: as soon as they can.
First they'll need to create content that people would want to buy at full price, which isn't an easy task. The only content that I can think of that would warrant another €30-50 would be space logs or atmospheric landings. By all accounts I've read (and I'll admit that I'm not particularly current here) there's some technical difficulties in getting these completed.
Going by their previous MO from the Horizons release, they'll be a lot further along than they've let on when it gets released. So basically, sit and chill. It'll happen when it happens.
They should probably throw out a few sweeteners in the meantime. Although, going from the vibe on this forum, I'd say there'll still be plenty of "I don't want a free paint job, I want my content now!@!!!" dummy spitting.
I'd imagine that the answer to that question is: as soon as they can.
First they'll need to create content that people would want to buy at full price, which isn't an easy task. The only content that I can think of that would warrant another €30-50 would be space logs or atmospheric landings. By all accounts I've read (and I'll admit that I'm not particularly current here) there's some technical difficulties in getting these completed.
Going by their previous MO from the Horizons release, they'll be a lot further along than they've let on when it gets released. So basically, sit and chill. It'll happen when it happens.
They should probably throw out a few sweeteners in the meantime. Although, going from the vibe on this forum, I'd say there'll still be plenty of "I don't want a free paint job, I want my content now!@!!!" dummy spitting.
Thanks for the links.
why dont people just read this thread,
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/444800-Important-Community-Update
then we can all just stop going on about it ?
*edit late to the party NVM - still go read it
You can't just go around answering questions and expecting people to remember it, you have to repeat it on a weekly basis or the LEP panic sets in.
why dont people just read this thread,
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/444800-Important-Community-Update
then we can all just stop going on about it ?
*edit late to the party NVM - still go read it
That’s an answer to a question, just not the one the op or most of us are talking about.
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i still remember the dread i got when reading that post.... after the 1st line i was convinced it was FD officially calling time on elite dangerous - if not turning the lights off and shutting down, but at least confirming no more development was happening on the game.
thank goodness that was not the case however still, not a post i enjoyed reading.
possibly a really well written piece actually, because despite it being essentially bad news imo (yet more of a delay) by the end of it my main feeling was relief not disappointment.
Elites imminent doom has always been overstated, I've never been able to take it seriously.
lol ok simples'
"Seems like us Lifetime Expansion Pass holders have been getting the shaft lately. Am I wrong to assume we'd be getting the Midnight Black paint jobs for the new ships?"
Yes you are wrong indeed read this;
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/444800-Important-Community-Update
Answered.
We can all crawl back under our rocks until the next LEP thread.
I still can thanks for the season without additional charge, that doesn't mean it's free though.
BTW, I say "gracias" when I purchase something on the street or a shop.
Nope still doesn’t answer the underlying question. What free store content are we getting this year?
none
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ps OP didnt ask that, they asked if they were wrong to assume, and yes they were indeed very very wrong.
That's not comparable because you didn't explicitly bought it with your money, more so if you evade taxes or simply have little money and pay little taxes, in other words, you weren't charged for it, you possibly paid part of it but you didn't get charged for it.
What's that?
I already posted the Oxford Dictionary definition above, you are wrong.
Using steam stats I see.
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