Now the wait begins
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The beta was a welcome diversion until the big curtain raiser on what was planned for mining...logged out and haven't logged back in since.
I'll download the update to the the live game when it comes of course, but other gaming diversions are proving too strong for the urge to fire up E-D at all.
I'll download the update to the the live game when it comes of course, but other gaming diversions are proving too strong for the urge to fire up E-D at all.
Yep, I am spending a lot of my time getting to grips with the Hornet in DCS.
Warning - this is long winded, whimsical and talks about Star Citizen and there is no TL
R version to cater for you having the attention span of a nat
I can't wait for 3.4. I have a massive list of things to do. But everything is already where I need it to be and I am ready. So I have been doing BGS stuff in my home cluster. It is simple low pay stuff, but it is a great way to enjoy Elite at a chilled out pace, just 'living the game' as a character. But I was still just waiting for 3.4, and then I did something unexpected...
Elite, as we know, has the best sounds in games. The music however, whilst also great, is a little long in the tooth, having not changed in years. Sometimes, when browsing I load up the Star Citizen launcher. Not to play it, but just to listen to the music. It is often great, and seems to be updated frequently with all sorts of varied stuff. I am highly critical of CIG and SC, but they do do good music. Well earlier this week I did something else... I clicked on update.
Now I am very cynical when it comes to CIG and SC. I lost all faith in them after the Vanguard debacle. And routinely dismiss the game a buggy mess that will never go live. I also love FDEV and Elite, to the point that I am probably seen as a White Knight on these forums. So whist SC is still sat on my hard drive, I don't go there. Or at least had not in over a year till last weekend.
Well, it is still a buggy mess. But things have really moved on. It might not just be endless ship sales to fuel more development which is taken up be more ships, for more ship sales to fuel... etc, after all. From a space flight point of view, it is still rubbish compared to Elite. Too fast, too messy, too random. It has nothing on Elite as a Space ships game (I'll come back to this). I tired some missions and they where all but impossible. Again bugs abound meant most had to be abandoned as they just did not work. If this was Elite, FDEV would be getting roasted on the forums (by me). But this is an Alpha, so you just bug report. So still clearly a long way from being a game.
So what kept me there all week?
Grounding. And a profound sense of presence.
Elite is still a space ships game. For all the holo-me stuff, you are still a space ship. There are no other people. Other people are other commanders who holo-me in (and how often does that happen), or static portraits. When the station announcer says the ground crew are on their way, where are they? Why are there no people in all those port windows? Where is everyone?
Elite is a Space ships game. Star Citizen, even in one half built system, is a Space game. Running (actually mostly walking) around in SC was how I imagined a Mass Effect Online game would be. It has that sort of ambiance. But the locations. Oh the locations. They have such detail. The lighting and design is superb. I spent an hour just walking across an icy moon, to get the top of a mountain range, just to watch a sun rise. It was fantastic. Basically I spent a week doing nothing but travelling and exploring, often on foot, only really using ships to get around, and I loved it.
Now I will run out of places to visit soon. There is little 'game' behind it. But I can see where it is going. But throughout the whole experience it was that sense of presence; of having the focus being a person not a ship that made it so real. When this goes live (in many years) I won't want a ship. I won't want lots of money. I will want to start with nothing more than a pressure under suit, a helmet and a handful of credits, and to see how far I can go.
And you know what else I was thinking throughout this experience? Why is this not Elite? Why am I not a person in Elite? Where is that sense of being there? Where is that grounding and feeling of presence? Where are all the other people that bring the game world to life? Yep, you knew it was coming:
- Elite needs atmospheric landings
- Elite needs space legs
Combine this profound sense of presence with Elites already developed game world and much better 'space ship stuff' and it would be the best game ever.
Come on FDEV.
Some screenies from my wanderings
R version to cater for you having the attention span of a nat I can't wait for 3.4. I have a massive list of things to do. But everything is already where I need it to be and I am ready. So I have been doing BGS stuff in my home cluster. It is simple low pay stuff, but it is a great way to enjoy Elite at a chilled out pace, just 'living the game' as a character. But I was still just waiting for 3.4, and then I did something unexpected...
Elite, as we know, has the best sounds in games. The music however, whilst also great, is a little long in the tooth, having not changed in years. Sometimes, when browsing I load up the Star Citizen launcher. Not to play it, but just to listen to the music. It is often great, and seems to be updated frequently with all sorts of varied stuff. I am highly critical of CIG and SC, but they do do good music. Well earlier this week I did something else... I clicked on update.
Now I am very cynical when it comes to CIG and SC. I lost all faith in them after the Vanguard debacle. And routinely dismiss the game a buggy mess that will never go live. I also love FDEV and Elite, to the point that I am probably seen as a White Knight on these forums. So whist SC is still sat on my hard drive, I don't go there. Or at least had not in over a year till last weekend.
Well, it is still a buggy mess. But things have really moved on. It might not just be endless ship sales to fuel more development which is taken up be more ships, for more ship sales to fuel... etc, after all. From a space flight point of view, it is still rubbish compared to Elite. Too fast, too messy, too random. It has nothing on Elite as a Space ships game (I'll come back to this). I tired some missions and they where all but impossible. Again bugs abound meant most had to be abandoned as they just did not work. If this was Elite, FDEV would be getting roasted on the forums (by me). But this is an Alpha, so you just bug report. So still clearly a long way from being a game.
So what kept me there all week?
Grounding. And a profound sense of presence.
Elite is still a space ships game. For all the holo-me stuff, you are still a space ship. There are no other people. Other people are other commanders who holo-me in (and how often does that happen), or static portraits. When the station announcer says the ground crew are on their way, where are they? Why are there no people in all those port windows? Where is everyone?
Elite is a Space ships game. Star Citizen, even in one half built system, is a Space game. Running (actually mostly walking) around in SC was how I imagined a Mass Effect Online game would be. It has that sort of ambiance. But the locations. Oh the locations. They have such detail. The lighting and design is superb. I spent an hour just walking across an icy moon, to get the top of a mountain range, just to watch a sun rise. It was fantastic. Basically I spent a week doing nothing but travelling and exploring, often on foot, only really using ships to get around, and I loved it.
Now I will run out of places to visit soon. There is little 'game' behind it. But I can see where it is going. But throughout the whole experience it was that sense of presence; of having the focus being a person not a ship that made it so real. When this goes live (in many years) I won't want a ship. I won't want lots of money. I will want to start with nothing more than a pressure under suit, a helmet and a handful of credits, and to see how far I can go.
And you know what else I was thinking throughout this experience? Why is this not Elite? Why am I not a person in Elite? Where is that sense of being there? Where is that grounding and feeling of presence? Where are all the other people that bring the game world to life? Yep, you knew it was coming:
- Elite needs atmospheric landings
- Elite needs space legs
Combine this profound sense of presence with Elites already developed game world and much better 'space ship stuff' and it would be the best game ever.
Come on FDEV.
Some screenies from my wanderings
This is what Elite is sorely missing. The flight controller sounds brought a new level of ambience and immersion, but it needs to step up to another level with activity in the space ports. Even if we can't have legs quickly, the random 'human' activity in ports, at stations and bases would improve the game incredibly.
But it is almost soul-less at the stations without them now. Good job on the voice-overs and sounds, however.
I hit a bumpy road in live where I had very little money left and had to sell most of my engineered modules and some ships or risk breaking the bank. So I'm focusing on making back the money before chapter 4 goes live. After that HGEs will be easier so I'll focus on re-engineering my fleet
This is what Elite is sorely missing. The flight controller sounds brought a new level of ambience and immersion, but it needs to step up to another level with activity in the space ports. Even if we can't have legs quickly, the random 'human' activity in ports, at stations and bases would improve the game incredibly.
But it is almost soul-less at the stations without them now. Good job on the voice-overs and sounds, however.
Yup, we should totally use SC as the ideal for how to populate space ports
i am waiting for the roadmap for after that release.
since 4.0 was already anounced to be far in the future,
i fear next to no care for 3.3 during that time, despite how much is left to finetune (multicrew and mining)
we haven't seen any hotfixes to bugs that wont affect a majority of the playerbase between the beyond patches, so i kinda do not expect them between 3.3 and 4.0 either
since 4.0 was already anounced to be far in the future,
i fear next to no care for 3.3 during that time, despite how much is left to finetune (multicrew and mining)
we haven't seen any hotfixes to bugs that wont affect a majority of the playerbase between the beyond patches, so i kinda do not expect them between 3.3 and 4.0 either
That doesn't look creepy at all.
Going to keep winging up Sunday nights and work CG's I guess, until 3.3 drops and then probably finally learn how to take down Thargoids...
Yup, we should totally use SC as the ideal for how to populate space ports
The video from where that gif is from, is way more creepy/hilarious.
[video=youtube_share;CX-c78SURpI]https://youtu.be/CX-c78SURpI[/video]
So I formed a plan. Sitting at my current "home" station in my exploration krait. Can't even take it out to my next staging area because the exploration is much better in 3.3. So, I just wait.
Trying X4 in the meantime. Different niche and not going well so far, but I'm just looking to stay busy.
Trying X4 in the meantime. Different niche and not going well so far, but I'm just looking to stay busy.
What is...uncanny valley, Alex?
Something about 3.3 just doesn’t float my boat. I think it’s the new FSS.
Don’t get me wrong. I love the fact that we no longer have to give up a slot for the ADS. But the FSS is just a bit weird.
In beta nearly every system was undiscovered by me. Systems that should already be populated with stations you can plot to, were now unavailable. I had to go scan Founder’s world.
I think this was due to us testing out the FSS in beta and does not translate to live.
I still have a problem with needing to scan USSes. Though now you can spend 10mins scanning these in a system instead of targeting them while you are on your way to your destination station and then having to retarget your destination station.
The Thargoid incursion might cause a whole lot of problems as you need to grind specific equipment to take them on. I have a fully fitted anti-Xeno Chieftain, and know where to grind more Guardian mats. That does not mean the rest of the player base is interested in doing the same.
Don’t get me wrong. I love the fact that we no longer have to give up a slot for the ADS. But the FSS is just a bit weird.
In beta nearly every system was undiscovered by me. Systems that should already be populated with stations you can plot to, were now unavailable. I had to go scan Founder’s world.
I think this was due to us testing out the FSS in beta and does not translate to live.
I still have a problem with needing to scan USSes. Though now you can spend 10mins scanning these in a system instead of targeting them while you are on your way to your destination station and then having to retarget your destination station.
The Thargoid incursion might cause a whole lot of problems as you need to grind specific equipment to take them on. I have a fully fitted anti-Xeno Chieftain, and know where to grind more Guardian mats. That does not mean the rest of the player base is interested in doing the same.
I'm currently 10kly from sol making my slow way back to the bubble. Does this mean that my old ADS scans will result in a first discovered by tag, and my old DSS scans show as first explored by tag after the update? In other words, does the update convert the old scanning tags to the new scanning tags or am I likely to loose anything?
Cheers CMDRs
I think your first discovered tags would be fine. I don't think you would get and first mapped as that mechanic was not there.
All the existing system scanners will get converted to the same single type (and no longer take up a ship slot). DSS will turn into the new surface probe scanning gizmo.
So If you would ahve got say 100 first discovered in he old system you would still get 100 first discovered in the new one. But no surface scanning discovery.
All the existing system scanners will get converted to the same single type (and no longer take up a ship slot). DSS will turn into the new surface probe scanning gizmo.
So If you would ahve got say 100 first discovered in he old system you would still get 100 first discovered in the new one. But no surface scanning discovery.