Surely I understand this. You don't like the skybox.
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Surely I understand this. You don't like the skybox.
These false preconception threads are always the same. That somehow Frontier made "mistake after mistake" stated as somehow complete fact. Frontier and ED has been successful for the four years since main release. They took time to gradually add on features. They were busy with PC and JWE as the company has grown with a new building and they had never abandoned the game. A misstep or rather more of an obstacle FD overcame, could be the PS4 port which took longer than normal which delayed imo the progress of Horizons.
Frontier is hardly like or implied to be a criminal enterprise "turning over a new 'leaf'' as they never had stooped to shenanigans such as the preorder lying hype of NMS's initial infamous release, nor the shifty ponzi shenanigans of CIG & StarCitizen. If anything, Frontier successfully capitalized and allocated more resources increased the dev teams for ED to a hundred at or near the beginning of Beyond. So yes, they are positively ramping up development as they can now manage more "time and resources". They addressed many issues as they could, and as usual get so little credit for the vast amount of other things done well in the game so quickly taken for granted.
Still, Horizons could hardly be considered a failure. The thargoids made it back with outstanding visual and sound design. SLFs , and holo-me avatars arrived probably a foundation step for spacelegs and expanded multicrew in the future. Megaships and stations came along. Chained missions. Overall it's simply hard to quickly expand on a game of unprecedented scope of such realistically modeled precision at different levels. Frontier was the underdog and as they grow into a major player, of course more resources could be become available to expand on ED in the future in their ten year planning and hopefully beyond.
As for the tinting of the skybox, imo, it's annoying, but it seems to be a tradeoff currently acceptable for the vastly improved lighting from several other visual perspectives. FD are probably aware of the opinions by now so they may take steps to mitigate the side effects. In fact I'm far more used to the more vibrant colors now and it can be very effective at times as opposed to the lower contrast we had before, so maybe they'd already did some adjustments since the recent patching. I've noticed a higher resolution screen also helps mute the colors more and tinting mainly occurs when jumping in a system where as the one pilots the ship away from the main star, the skybox colors often revert back to 'normal'.
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youtube.com/elitedangerous - I already watched them so I'm sure it will be more fun for you to watch
Not sure why you would bother though - you've decided you don't like it, so I doubt that seeing FDev say it was deliberate would change your feelings <shrung>
Not trying to be a pain in the butt but do you have any idea which stream it is in? One of those streams is 5 hours long lol. I have a hunch that there isn't actually a time where the devs confirmed that they intended to tint the galactic skybox the same color as the star of the system one is in. Again though, that's just a hunch.
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I would argue that it is a fact that many players felt this game had made several mistakes along the way and that Beyond was an attempt to use community feedback and such to address what were perceived by many as missteps. I'm not sure what so unreasonable about that. You seem awfully defensive.
I never claimed that it was "broken" in the sense that it is unintended. It is scientifically inaccurate but I have no idea if it is intended or not. I am completely and 100 percent open to being shown that that is indeed the case. I am not asking for a source out of hostility, I am genuinely looking for confirmation. Since I have not made a claim one way or another, I don't have a burden or proof
Burden of proof lol, this isn't a courtroom its a whinge thread. Do your own research if its that important to you. Otherwise its just opinion v opinion on a subjective aesthetic issue. I like it and only really value the opinions of enthusiastic people when it comes to hobbies.
If you feel that tinting is too much, provide detailed feedback why you consider so. There is possible compromise/balance point for FD to consider if you can point them that
Less drama, more constructive feedback.
Less drama, more constructive feedback.
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Whether tinting the skybox was intended or not is not a subjective question lol. There is an objective answer, unfortunately I do not know what it is.
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If you feel that tinting is too much, provide detailed feedback why you consider so. There is possible compromise/balance point for FD to consider if you can point them that
Less drama, more constructive feedback.
If you look through my posts in this thread, I think you will find virtually no drama on my part
I would argue otherwise, it's only a minority mainly the small but vocal naysaying bandwagon that said the game consistently made "several mistakes" and "turning over a new leaf" used as a thread title implies grossly negligent or shifty practices, where Frontier has a better record of being more principled in comparison to other publishers and dev firms. ex. no p2w, false preorder information, early access subscriptions, .jpg ships, lootboxes, recent "duffel bags" etc. To repeat since the point seems to be missed, the game has done very well with their available resources within the massive scope of the gameworld with continuing patching.
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New leaf no. Absolutely not. Nada no way. Game is broken many of the playerbase cannot log in, The game disconnects, freezes for a good 20 seconds or so and carries on as nothing has happened, Except you might have faceplanted a star. station or planet. BGS is broken, Some missions are broken, and don't get me started on this graphical "enhancement". Top all of that they have buggered off for Christmas and new year with not a quick fix or patch.
So nope new leaf absolutely not.
So nope new leaf absolutely not.
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The changes to mining and exploration are an improvement in the right direction but still remain very "game-y". Frankly mining as it is now should have been the base line for the game.
To be completely honest - knowing I will get tons of flak - I believe the biggest issue holding the game back is the community itself since a lot of people seem to fight QoL changes tooth and nail.
To be completely honest - knowing I will get tons of flak - I believe the biggest issue holding the game back is the community itself since a lot of people seem to fight QoL changes tooth and nail.
Where as I've been playing fine over the holidays - an occasional freeze, but nothing bad has happened. Almost like there are a variety of opinions, just like IRL
Where as I've been playing fine over the holidays - an occasional freeze, but nothing bad has happened. Almost like there are a variety of opinions, just like IRL
Disconnects and crashes are not opinions. Don't be intellectually dishonest.
Where as I've been playing fine over the holidays - an occasional freeze, but nothing bad has happened. Almost like there are a variety of opinions, just like IRL
Don't you dare have another opinion, Mr. Hamster *shakes fist*
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I have considered what you said in regard to the title of my thread. Perhaps I should have used a different phrase. I am not suggesting the Frontier is engaged in unethical practices, I am suggesting that they have made some mistakes along the way in regard to gameplay design and such. I think even they would agree with that to some extent. Even well intentioned people make mistakes.
Are we playing the same game? I have none of those issues apart from the screen freezing for a few seconds and then starting again from the same position it froze, no "faceplanted a star. station or planet." and why shouldn't Frontier staff have time off at Christmas, I am on holiday why shouldnt they be.
I agree they're not opinions - I haven't had any more disconnections or crashes than usual (so - hardly any), so they are fictions....
Opinions are what people express about the game (like it being doomed etc etc). Intellectual dishonesty would be taking someone's words and seemingly deliberately misunderstanding them ....
I have never seen a starving African child. Therefore, they do not exist.
That is your logic.
Where as I've been playing fine over the holidays - an occasional freeze, but nothing bad has happened. Almost like there are a variety of opinions, just like IRL
You don't understand how much it hurts Garris that people have Christmas off four years after they released a video game.
So submit a bug report and see what (if anything) support bother to tell you.
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