Bob Lighthouse
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Indeed, I'm confused why birdface thinks I resurrected a thread? Methinks he's spent too much time looking in a mirror and pecking it.
AldrickExGladius
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ap ibirdbaby still trying to impress and get approval from his daddy? he aint impressing nobody else it seems, but hes still talking all that internet trash.
and ive been making my way across the galaxy way before yall starting this little ing contest. so unless one of them mush mouth trash talking cowards have the balls to take his out this far, i still got a Beam or 2 for them on the Vette. damn kids lol
and ive been making my way across the galaxy way before yall starting this little ing contest. so unless one of them mush mouth trash talking cowards have the balls to take his out this far, i still got a Beam or 2 for them on the Vette. damn kids lol
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AP Birdman
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Lol wow!
Cool story bro
If you're on Xbox I would LOVE to settle this in a 1v1. Bring your Corvette I'll bring my FAS.
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Frankly, all I see is you kicking and screaming and name calling. It's very immature, and as Bob pointed out, very telling.
AP Birdman
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I thought it was you but I misread the post dates. My mistake.
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I swear to god, for every miner that doesn't jump into this system in the next 20 minutes I'm going to go find me a noob and gank them just because.
Miners that jump through while I'm AFK pouring myself a beer don't count.
Miners that jump through while I'm AFK pouring myself a beer don't count.
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And you call the chap above immature?....I'm pretty certain PvPers are hated amongst the wider Elite non combat communities (explorers, traders) and it's pretty much down to the attitudes of many PvPers that post. If you gank a noob you are nothing more than a bully, fact. The lowest forms of humanity pick on the weakest. Doesn't matter if it's pixels or not, or however you justify it.....many look upon you lot like they look upon what a dog just puked up.
Id like to see that! I volunteer to act as witness
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OP, don't ask why. Just accept that it's a game about spaceships with guns and be happy.
Here's what you do - go kill another player. Not in real life... I mean just their spaceship. Blow it up real good.
After you've done that, exit to main menu and take a moment to reflect on who you are as a person. Are you a sociopath? A serial killer? Have your friends and family abandoned you for your emotional incapacity? Do your co-workers shun you for your cold detachment? Do your pets reel in terror when you walk in the room?
No. None of that is likely to be the case, because the fact is that all you did was shoot a spaceship in the spaceship shootey game.
I still remember the first time I (we) killed a player for no reason. We went to a CG and decided to play the federal police, blockading the trade CG. We pulled over this guy in a T-6, and when he wouldn't stop, Xabaras and I let out a short burst to get his attention. Xabaras was running multiple pacifiers and it vaporized the guy in an instant. A mistake, but a funny one. We laughed and laughed. God, I can't remember a time that Xabaras and I laughed harder or longer.
Now, do I do it on the regs? No.
Do I denigrate and despise people who do? No.
Do I think that there is a bit of bully mentality involved? Sure, and I also think that there is a bit of prankster mentality, some roleplay mentality, sometimes you're bored and you just want to blow something up. Sometimes you just want to see what your new toys can do. Sometimes you just want to watch the galaxy burn.
In the end, we're all just flying imaginary spaceships, in an imaginary galaxy where money is generated out of thin air, and the cost of dying is almost non-existent.
Now... it's been twenty minutes and not a single miner. That's one noob going on the list for tonight.
Here's what you do - go kill another player. Not in real life... I mean just their spaceship. Blow it up real good.
After you've done that, exit to main menu and take a moment to reflect on who you are as a person. Are you a sociopath? A serial killer? Have your friends and family abandoned you for your emotional incapacity? Do your co-workers shun you for your cold detachment? Do your pets reel in terror when you walk in the room?
No. None of that is likely to be the case, because the fact is that all you did was shoot a spaceship in the spaceship shootey game.
I still remember the first time I (we) killed a player for no reason. We went to a CG and decided to play the federal police, blockading the trade CG. We pulled over this guy in a T-6, and when he wouldn't stop, Xabaras and I let out a short burst to get his attention. Xabaras was running multiple pacifiers and it vaporized the guy in an instant. A mistake, but a funny one. We laughed and laughed. God, I can't remember a time that Xabaras and I laughed harder or longer.
Now, do I do it on the regs? No.
Do I denigrate and despise people who do? No.
Do I think that there is a bit of bully mentality involved? Sure, and I also think that there is a bit of prankster mentality, some roleplay mentality, sometimes you're bored and you just want to blow something up. Sometimes you just want to see what your new toys can do. Sometimes you just want to watch the galaxy burn.
In the end, we're all just flying imaginary spaceships, in an imaginary galaxy where money is generated out of thin air, and the cost of dying is almost non-existent.
Now... it's been twenty minutes and not a single miner. That's one noob going on the list for tonight.
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Do you know who's playing on the other end? could be a 10 year old, could be a disabled person, could be ANYONE....yet you set them back, you say it's easy to make money....but for some it's NOT and for others they may not have the time. But you just do not care one jot. smh
It's just about gaining your own personal enjoyment at the expense of others in a game that just puts everyone and anyone together regardless. Your friends and family see "nice" guys.....many here just see the turd with the blood stained club and a dead baby seal. The more you try to justify it the more that image sticks. <sigh> but it's all pointless, nothing I say will make any difference... I just feel sorry for the inexperienced or low on credits who get shoved in the same instances as a seal clubber.
You know that if you all just want to see things "splode" you can do it to NPCs....but nah, you HAVE to have that feeling that you've done it a real person eh?.....
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Well yeah, I mean... NPCs don't scream in terror the way ten year-old paraplegics do.
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As long as you get your jollies eh? Just look up the meaning of "not caring about other peoples feelings" and have a think about it.
As a Cmdr who has been sent to the rebuy screen alot and because of my mild physical issues I am no match for a even basic pvp cmdr never once have I thought they where psycho I just thought I got bested.
That's pretty much the definition of a psychopath. These guys probably don't act on their lack of empathy in real life because society has long since created quite a few counter-measures that ensure any public psychopathic behavior is punished socially (even for small things, if you're consistently a negative person towards others, society will shun you).
Since they can't publicly let out their natural behavior due to the social consequences, they do it in video games and justify it by saying "it's just pixels" - when they very well know it's sadistic psychopathic behavior nonetheless.
This goes hand-to-hand with the animosity towards menu-logging - for most non-sadistic people engaging in a PvP battle, if your opponent menu-logs / taps out, you get a sense of victory. But for this subset of players, their sense of accomplishment and victory only comes from "forcing people to eat a rebuy" (aka inflicting real pain on the player victim).
At the end of the day, it is indeed a game, but when you destroy a ship flown by a human CMDR (as opposed to NPCs), there are very much real consequences to the psyche of the person affected, do it on a new player often enough and they will just quit the game out of frustration - making ED PvP not at all comparable to other video games where dying / losing has no consequence in terms of time lost (losing progress = effectively losing time), ie: people shooting in each in an online FPS tends to be much more akin to any regular sport, since the only downside to losing a fight is that you usually wait a few seconds / minutes to respawn (depending on the type of FPS).
And this is why I play mostly in Mobius / Solo, and keep a healthy blocklist for when I join Open. Life's too short to deal with sadistic psychopaths in a video game you're supposed to derive pleasure from. I am not someone else's "content".
Edit: The only other game I can think of that had significant PK issues was Ultima Online. But at least in UO, if you killed enough people you would turn perma-red, effectively banishing you from entering any cities (lest the guards kill you on sight). Also in UO there were various reasons to kill another player than just for shts and giggles - you could loot the guys corpse and take their stuff, making it a profitable endeavor for some. The risk was much higher for PKs too, since if they got killed, other people could also loot their gear (and also the fact they would effectively be banished from cities). Oh yea, also once you turned red, you would become fair game for anyone to kill without negative consequences for their standing as law-abiding citizens.
Edit 2: Forgot to say that UO, even for a medieval RP game, had a much more effective C&P system than ED, a game set in the future with near-instantaneous communication. In UO you would become a true "pariah" after you murdered enough innocents, and become banished from all cities. In ED, you jump a couple of systems over and the cops be like "who dis?"
Edit 3: EVE Online is another game with a similar situation, but they mostly copied the UO model.
Edit 4: Eventually, even the highly punishing original UO model proved ineffective and and they were bleeding players, so they effectively created a PvE mode (by sharding the game world into two parallel universes you could travel between - Felucca = old rules PvP, and Trammel = no PvP at all). They must've done something right, since UO is still very much alive and kicking TODAY - keep in mind it was originally released in 1997 (which means it's probably older than a lot of the ED PvPers [haha])
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What if it was the next Adolf Hitler? Surely it would be alright then?
But seriously, this attitude of yours is just poor. There are endless resources to survive and thrive in Open and if you don’t want to play in Open there are beautiful modes to tailor your experience.
Stop with the ‘think of the children’ act. It helps nothing.
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Yeah, it's all emotional tropes engineered to win the argument. The same way we engineer our ships... to win the argument
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It's all FDevs fault anyway. If they would just ban the use of clubs all the seals would be happier and the galaxy would live in a beautiful harmony... So sad, what could be, but never will...[sour]