No more Low Temp Diamond pirating?
- Thread starter Metal Angel
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Collector limpets of course, with a tad of "stopping the target dead in the water".
See for yourself, how i do it:
ION Mines + Packhounds
[video=youtube;udMrUClNFJ0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udMrUClNFJ0[/video]
[video=youtube;4BUtZ14akkY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BUtZ14akkY[/video]
Just drive killing and "roadblocking"
[video=youtube;brcpd4YyADc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brcpd4YyADc[/video]
[video=youtube;udMrUClNFJ0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udMrUClNFJ0[/video]
[video=youtube;4BUtZ14akkY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BUtZ14akkY[/video]
Just drive killing and "roadblocking"
[video=youtube;brcpd4YyADc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brcpd4YyADc[/video]
Negative, that is why it is very hard and skillfull to learn.
You need to bring the ship to a stop, preferably with damaged
but functioning drives, triggering the effect and killing the drives
while the NPC is under the "debuff" and stopped.
ION disruption doesn't work on disabled drives and FA:OFF.
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I've been hanging around Viracocha too on and off for the past week or so, with very inconsistent results.
As for technique, I started a whole other thread on that with some good info here:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/466836-One-for-the-Pirates
As for technique, I started a whole other thread on that with some good info here:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/466836-One-for-the-Pirates
This is my method:
1. Use a Cutter with an 8A Prismatic Shield
2. Fill every utility slot with Shield Boosters
3. Target a ship and inspect its sub-systems - no need for a Manifest Scanner
4. Only interdict ships with a Mining Laser and without Point Defences (in Anarchy+Agriculture+Boom systems they will ALWAYS be carrying LTDs)
5. IMMEDIATELY fire upon the ship once you have interdicted them. You only have to hit them once before they activate FSD to turn them aggressive. They will then come about and start to attack you
6. Come to a complete halt with 4 pips to Systems. Ignore the ship firing at you - your shields will hold
7. Release as many Collector Limpets as you have (I send 9 out at a time)
8. Wait for the attacking ship to come to a halt (usually between 500m and 1.2km) meaning all of its cargo is dropped in one place
9. Release Hatchbreaker Limpets one at a time so that there are only about twice as many canisters of LTD floating free as you have Collector Limpets - this means the LTDs won't blow up before you can collect them all
10. As soon as your Hatchbreaker reports no cargo found turn your weapons on the attacking ship to either drive it into FSD or kill it to collect its mats.
Here's my ship loadout: https://inara.cz/cmdr-fleet/103551/473165/
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Thanks gents very informative. Last question; In case EDDB is not updating the best prices we've seen I'd like to manually be able to look for stations which pay the best. Is there a way I could tell what stations would have highest prices? Like boom? Investment?
If you get an answer let me know! :-D
Current BGS knowledge is this:
Boom = commodity price increase
Investment = huge increase
pirate attack = huge increase
A system with these three states will pay a lot.
Alternatively check http://inara.cz
Methods are personal choice, however do you feel that method really is challenging
or immersive?
To be honest, unless I can equip grappling cables to bring enemy to a stop, this is as best as it gets. Yeah... Enemy should flee... But enemy should have fled a long time ago... Probably should have jettisoned everything after disabling the drives, but they don't. Cargo shouldn't just up and pop for no reason neither. Very immersion breaking. However as far as challenging , I might consider it if my cargo didn't suddenly explode if I am moving more than 10 speed.
I don't give a toss. It earns money that I can use to do other things I want. If you'd care to read earlier in this thread I said I was only doing this because FDev haven't sorted the BGS out yet.
There's a pill for that.
I think Julio is a bit miffed that he's been doing it the hard way without realising there is a far easier and much more elegant way of doing it. Cue the smugness about 'immersion' and 'challenge.'
If I'm hungry I'll go to the fridge and make a sandwich... I won't embark on an expedition to wrestle a cow to the ground, kill it, skin it, dismember it, cook it, slice it, plant some wheat, wait for it to grow, harvest it, grind it to flour, bake a loaf and then wish I'd milked the cow before killing it so I could churn my own butter to spread on the bread.
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I think Julio is a bit miffed that he's been doing it the hard way without realising there is a far easier and much more elegant way of doing it. Cue the smugness about 'immersion' and 'challenge.'
If I'm hungry I'll go to the fridge and make a sandwich... I won't embark on an expedition to wrestle a cow to the ground, kill it, skin it, dismember it, cook it, slice it, plant some wheat, wait for it to grow, harvest it, grind it to flour, bake a loaf and wish I'd milked the cow before killing it so I could churn my own butter to spread on the bread.
Absolutely not chap.
Doing piracy your way is like watching paint dry.
I enjoy being creative and finding solutions playing the game,
not hiding behind a megashield.
The method you use and openly show here is something
that is detrimental to whole game, making FD sooner or later butcher it.
And that very well could lead to further increasing module creep,
or finally removing the silly hitpoint garbage.
If you do piracy only for grabbing the bucks, that is your decision,
i, as i said, enjoy tricking the cops, showing some skill and not just
tank NPCs with a braindead method.
“If you end your training now — if you choose the quick and easy path as Vader did — you will become an agent of evil.”
Also:
“Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will.”
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Absolutely not chap.
Doing piracy your way is like watching paint dry.
I enjoy being creative and finding solutions playing the game,
not hiding behind a megashield.
The method you use and openly show here is something
that is detrimental to whole game, making FD sooner or later butcher it.
And that very well could lead to further increasing module creep,
or finally removing the silly hitpoint garbage.
If you do piracy only for grabbing the bucks, that is your decision,
i, as i said, enjoy tricking the cops, showing some skill and not just
tank NPCs with a braindead method.
“If you end your training now — if you choose the quick and easy path as Vader did — you will become an agent of evil.”
Also:
“Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will.”
"Tricking the cops?" Really? You're trying to tell me you do this in non-Anarchy systems?
You do realise that its never a case of finding 1 ship with enough LTDs to fill a 320t hold? More like 20 small ships. So out of those 20 ships what percentage would you accidentally kill?
How long do you spend in Notoriety after each little outing?
And don't quote Star Trek* it just makes you sound like a nerd.
*Awaits explosion
Oh, i see you also focuss on anarchy piracy.
No check my YT for guides if you like, i will not restrain my hunt to anarchy,
even pestering high sec successfully.
Then you are checking the wrong systems, there are T9s with 120+ LTDs a load.
In my set up Swagenger?
Why should i get notoriety for non lethal piracy?
Lol, 'tis Star Wars, mate.
Pre ION mining method, high sec piracy:
[video=youtube;n5roNWhi21k]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5roNWhi21k[/video]
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Seems you just don't bother reading posts. My original post in this thread was concerning the drought of LTD carrying ships in systems where only a few days ago they were plentiful.
One poster asked for tips on how to do it so I offered advice which was immediately pounced upon by a smug little person who thinks his way is some shining example we should all aspire to.
Get off your high-horse.
And note the * before responding next time. Nerd!
Woah gents, let's keep it civil!
Both ways are very solid strategies within the limits of the game.
Julio makes an excellent point that shield tanking sitting duck is kind of immersion breaking, and more importantly FDEV might rebalance the issue based on the ease and silliness of it.
If you gents watch the video he posted you'd also see how he got the FEDs to disengage as well. It is indeed entertaining. The drop mine turnaround packhound trick was nifty and entertaining, but a tad bit too complicated for my taste. And that's just it, everybody has their own level of skill and impatience to do pirating in different ways. I use flechettes. Disable the drives, and send the hatchbreakers and collectors as it drifts away. Problem is that if the ship is moving to fast your cargo gets destroyed as it gets delivered. So that's a problem. Also the fact that the trail of diamonds suddenly disappears is really annoying. So I can't really start the opposite way collecting because the first batch to drop would be disappeared.
Because of this sitting duck shield tanking becomes the best and most sensible way to do it.
I really appreciate the advice both you guys gave, it is much appreciated.
Both ways are very solid strategies within the limits of the game.
Julio makes an excellent point that shield tanking sitting duck is kind of immersion breaking, and more importantly FDEV might rebalance the issue based on the ease and silliness of it.
If you gents watch the video he posted you'd also see how he got the FEDs to disengage as well. It is indeed entertaining. The drop mine turnaround packhound trick was nifty and entertaining, but a tad bit too complicated for my taste. And that's just it, everybody has their own level of skill and impatience to do pirating in different ways. I use flechettes. Disable the drives, and send the hatchbreakers and collectors as it drifts away. Problem is that if the ship is moving to fast your cargo gets destroyed as it gets delivered. So that's a problem. Also the fact that the trail of diamonds suddenly disappears is really annoying. So I can't really start the opposite way collecting because the first batch to drop would be disappeared.
Because of this sitting duck shield tanking becomes the best and most sensible way to do it.
I really appreciate the advice both you guys gave, it is much appreciated.
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I too noticed some low amount of ships carrying LTD's.
Quite disappointing.
Anyone got a list of good system to pirate to make a decent profit?
Quite disappointing.
Anyone got a list of good system to pirate to make a decent profit?