Indeed, but regardless my point was they will be concentrated on fixing the network freezes and crashes etc before the problems I frivolously and shamefully called "spawn rates".The problem as clearly stated in the OP is not just spawn rates.
Indeed, but regardless my point was they will be concentrated on fixing the network freezes and crashes etc before the problems I frivolously and shamefully called "spawn rates".The problem as clearly stated in the OP is not just spawn rates.
Indeed, but regardless my point was they will be concentrated on fixing the network freezes and crashes etc before the problems I frivolously and shamefully called "spawn rates".
It was a simple question requiring a simple answer, but you carry on ducking it, I don't mind at all. I have been discussing the topic with everyone, only you cannot seem to get past my evil attacks and return to the discussion, I didn't realise I wounded you so. Sorry mate.![]()
Yes, before ashenfox went off on a personal attack tangent I was one of the only posters actually trying to discuss game mechanics. Maybe you missed that.
Love the new conspiracy theory, I'll add it to the list.
I haven't ducked anything, I've opted out of restating an opinion to a poster who already replied to it with salty personal rubbish. I'll happily carry on discussing the actual game mechanics with people who want to do that, whilst laughing at you and the usual bevy of ignore function failures.
I haven't had any trouble finding stuff. HGEs and mission targets have been producing well, and raw mats are easy to find at geo sites.
I don't see you discussing anything with anyone, I see you crying like a little girl about me calling you stupid (which I even edited and took back) at the beginning of the thread and pointedly not taking part and citing 'personal attacks' since then.
Boring...grow a pair and discuss, or block me, or I will you.
Ditto. Finding systems in certain states is a breeze if you are in a PMF affiliated squadron as the allegiance tab shows system state and has a galmap quick link.
Shush now, grownups talking.
Ah, so your solution is: Ignore problems and use a workaround.I've not experienced any problems locating specific system states. If I did it would be irrelevant as rather than grind at specific mats I grab any G5's then trade them at 6-1 (as I've already explained).
I spent pretty much all of yesterday farming HGEs.
I was initially looking for easy things that spawn in a number of states, such as CDCs, MGAs, PLAs, PHRs etc. But then I started looking for the more specialised stuff, that I HAD NO PROBLEM FINDING BEFORE 3.3.
I went looking for Pharmaceutical Isolators. I'm a pretty experienced gatherer, I know how to find these. You need a faction (any faction will do now, in a system, it doesn't need to be the controlling one) that is in outbreak state, combined with an HGE spawn (which now also needs to belong to the outbreak faction and be in the outbreak state) in that state. So, I went to eddb.io, and I listed up all the systems where the controlling faction was in Outbreak state. There were some obviously better candidates including one with 25m pop and high tech economy! Jackpot, I'm thinking. I go to the system, I scan the USSes with my FSS, I've become SUPER fast at that now. The last two USSes were both HGEs, that is already EXCELLENT going in the current state of the game, but imagine my glee when one was in Outbreak state and had 33 minutes left!! It wasn't even that far away. Off I went. A few minutes later I arrive in the USS. There hanging in space in front of me, are...12 Proto Heat Radiators. That's odd. I think to myself.
I relogged (current exploit) to get another pop at the HGE, logged in, SC, turn around, drop back in. Again, PHRs. I look at the system map and the states of the factions. Sure enough, this factoin is in boom (which produces HGEs containing PHRs) AS WELL AS outbreak. This would be fine if the HGE I was in was marked 'Boom'. But it wasn't. It was marked outbreak. And did not contain pharma isolators.
Never mind I thought, with that kind of luck, I might find more in another system. I checked all the remaining 4 systems within 100ly of my position that were in outbreak. Not a single one had any HGEs of any kind.
I gave up on Pharma Isos at that point and thought I'd try some improvised components. Again I head to eddb and I list up all the systems that are currently experiencing Civil Unrest, it was 4, and of those, only 2 had Civil Unrest as primary state. Not looking hopeful. Anyway, I dropped into all 4 of those systems. Only one had an HGE, and of course it wasn't civil unrest state.
Pretty annoyed at this point, I started really abusing the exploit. I farmed until disappearance every single HGE I found until I was completely full of CDCs, PHRs, MGAs, PCs, PLAs, I then went to Sirius to trade them. Each 100% FULL other grade 5 (100 materials), when ALL are traded for the OTHER grade 5 you want, give you conversion rate of 100 to 16.
100 to 16.
16.
That's ONE HGE (one usually contains 15 materials on average) if it contained what it should (maybe two at a stretch), in exchange for an hour of using an exploit. Even with the exploit in place, this is cruel and unusual. Without the exploit, there will be no method of farming decent quantities of materials that spawn in secondary and tertiary system states.
We are now 1 month into this. I realise that still isn't long enough for the BGS to do what it needs to do to generate more varied states across the bubble, but that's not my fault. I have ships to engineer.
What concerns me greatly, is that the exploit (the only method to get some of these materials in any quantity) is about to be closed and as yet, we have not heard anything about a solution to the underlying problem...
There are not enough HGEs being spawned and their state cannot be predicted, removing any skill that there was before.
At this point, even with the exploit in place, I'd rather see HGE gathering go back to how it was before. Please, please, FD, hear me, this is the most important thing in the game right now, as it was supposed to be addressed and made better and has been made much, much worse.
Even if you believe that we need another month for the BGS states to sort themselves out, please say that, please at least acknowledge that this isn't what was intended and that you are looking at improving at least HGE spawn rates to beta-like levels (5 to 10 in a system).
Thanks in advance.
Ditto. Finding systems in certain states is a breeze if you are in a PMF affiliated squadron as the allegiance tab shows system state and has a galmap quick link.
Don't be daft.
What you're supposed to do is go to places like the Jameson crash site or the Bug Killer crash site, mindlessly re-log there for a couple of hours and then scuttle off to a mat-trader to swap the stuff you have for 1/6th of the stuff you actually need.
I have seen a couple of posts saying that spawn rates of HGEs in general were higher in Beta.
Could well be that the rng regarding mat type vs faction state is intentional, however, actual mats spawned does not seem correct.
And there's an assumption here that the mechanic has not completely changed. I would hope not.
I had thought it was understood that these mechanics were never intended to support people who want to Engineer entire Wings, let alone Fleets of ships in a short time span. You did say ships, plural.
Have you (legitimately) considered that perhaps the problem is less with the game, and more your desire/mentality, or your process in general?
You've played World of Warcraft, so you know what happens when they introduce a new Reputation that has goodies - it's generally time gated, and you literally can't go faster no matter how much you might want to. Be thankful that no such thing really exists in this game. In fact, this game allows you an unlimited number of hoes that you can go row with, should you choose to do that to yourself.
Have you also (legitimately) tried using the Galaxy map, instead of trying to short-cut with a third-party site? I would recommend doing so, and comparing the results that you get. Stigbob has mentioned twice now about being part of a PMF, is that not worth looking at? I have never taken part in that, so I don't know.
Did you end up getting the Midnight paint jobs that you asked for? They were available for a time, and I made a thread specifically to let you know that (in case you were away/weren't aware), but it got pushed down by the usual crap pretty quickly.
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I had thought it was understood that these mechanics were never intended to support people who want to Engineer entire Wings, let alone Fleets of ships in a short time span. You did say ships, plural.
Have you (legitimately) considered that perhaps the problem is less with the game, and more your desire/mentality, or your process in general?
You've played World of Warcraft, so you know what happens when they introduce a new Reputation that has goodies - it's generally time gated, and you literally can't go faster no matter how much you might want to. Be thankful that no such thing really exists in this game. In fact, this game allows you an unlimited number of hoes that you can go row with, should you choose to do that to yourself.
Have you also (legitimately) tried using the Galaxy map, instead of trying to short-cut with a third-party site? I would recommend doing so, and comparing the results that you get. Stigbob has mentioned twice now about being part of a PMF, is that not worth looking at? I have never taken part in that, so I don't know.
Did you end up getting the Midnight paint jobs that you asked for? They were available for a time, and I made a thread specifically to let you know that (in case you were away/weren't aware), but it got pushed down by the usual crap pretty quickly.
Riôt