Yeah, I love my Clipper, and would love it to get a few of the tweaks mentioned by the OP, but when you take the price into account, it's hard to justify.
Frontier: Please show the Imperial Clipper some love in 2019 and give it a buff !
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Yeah, I love my Clipper, and would love it to get a few of the tweaks mentioned by the OP, but when you take the price into account, it's hard to justify.
Type 9 is already buffed.
Cobra IV needs to be made more exclusive, all the ones I see are flown by NPC pirates who I am sure didn't presupport.
IMO that makes sense for public ships that aren't rank locked.
The way the Clipper is positioned is sort of 'damned if you do, damned if you don't'
If you play the game from the start to grind imperial ranks, then the Courier is the better option.
If you enjoy the experience of playing Elite and potter about, you'll likely already be in a Krait or Python by the time you unlock the Clipper.
Yes please! The only thing the Clipper excels at is piracy, which is my profession. The main thing that it needs it is a higher mass lock factor. The fact that most med ships can out mass lock it is ridiculous.
And on a side note:
Aren't Frontier kind of stuck here regarding the long requested medium size Imperial ship?
If they make it a useful ship in the Gutamaya style - sexy, fast with decent jump range & decent weapons - what use would the Clipper be at all?
I guess there is no reason that Gutamaya couldn't release a $50M medium size ship that is better in every way.
Aren't Frontier kind of stuck here regarding the long requested medium size Imperial ship?
If they make it a useful ship in the Gutamaya style - sexy, fast with decent jump range & decent weapons - what use would the Clipper be at all?
I guess there is no reason that Gutamaya couldn't release a $50M medium size ship that is better in every way.
If they make a medium, it likely won't be better in everyway for starters optionals will be fewer or at least smaller as in there wouldn't be a class 7, so no super fast charging biweave or large cargo capacity because knowing gutamaya a lot of potential
Module space will be eliminated by nascelles and their wings or struts. My hope is that in return it is faster than the clipper at least. Since the shields would be of a lower class with slower regen hopefully they end up strong like the courier and cutter. It would have a weaker hull as well due to it having less optional space and being a medium ship it would have a lower armor hardness rating than the clipper. I could continue but I'm sure you get the point, there's tradeoffs for everything. What will the clipper be good for if a medium come out, the same thing it is now. In case you don't know the Clipper was added to the game as a faster alternative to the type 7, for hauling goods and safely running bloackades with its speed. It was named the imperial trader in the game files.
The biggest gripe I have about it is simply convergence.
Compared to the Phantom, it turns a little faster, has a little more top speed, greater shielding recharge and slightly more armor. However, it's much larger and easier to hit, doesn't change direction (accelerate) as well, has a lower shield cap, and is forced to use gimbals which are largely negated by chaff. The convergence problem does too much harm to build diversity and options, especially in PvP. It would be nice if at least the large weapons were on the main body, giving the ship two weapons that can be fixed. It would not be as effective as the FAS or Phantom at delivering fixed damage, but it would certainly be more free to run something other than gimballed frags.
But who are we kidding if they can't even fix mass lock factors after three months.
Compared to the Phantom, it turns a little faster, has a little more top speed, greater shielding recharge and slightly more armor. However, it's much larger and easier to hit, doesn't change direction (accelerate) as well, has a lower shield cap, and is forced to use gimbals which are largely negated by chaff. The convergence problem does too much harm to build diversity and options, especially in PvP. It would be nice if at least the large weapons were on the main body, giving the ship two weapons that can be fixed. It would not be as effective as the FAS or Phantom at delivering fixed damage, but it would certainly be more free to run something other than gimballed frags.
But who are we kidding if they can't even fix mass lock factors after three months.
If they make a smaller med sized clipper, it will compete with the python and krait. The Clipper will still be better in every way as it is over those two ships.
I'd be in favour of dropping the hull mass for both the Clipper and the Dropship. This would also have a positive effect on the shield strength because shield strength is correlated to mass via the optimal mass stat of the shield generator.
Lower hull mass -> faster ship??? Yarrrr have to paint mine all red!
No really ? Great Job.
That was example of basic functionality. You are taking it too literally. Seems like you don't read between the lines too well. So here, have another, more obvious hint.
Challenger / Chieftain / Crusader
But nice to meet you anyway you "20+ year experienced modeler" person.
Good luck with your future modeling endeavors.
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Clipper is fine on the outside. Its the internals on all ships that need a HP increase or module reinforcements need a slight buff to deal with the Power Creep thats now available with the weapons and shields after the rework.
Internal modules are the only thing that stayed the same.
Even the Hull around the Clipper and some Biweaves got a buff. Its the internals that stayed the same.
Thats why the clipper feels weak. Thats why most hull tanks at the moment feel a bit weak.
Modules take too much dmg too fast and its not for lack of manuvering to protecting plants or distros.
Internal modules are the only thing that stayed the same.
Even the Hull around the Clipper and some Biweaves got a buff. Its the internals that stayed the same.
Thats why the clipper feels weak. Thats why most hull tanks at the moment feel a bit weak.
Modules take too much dmg too fast and its not for lack of manuvering to protecting plants or distros.
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I'd fly the clipper (and any other imperial ship for that matter) if I could change the internals of the cockpit... that white plastic everywhere is blinding, especially when close to a star, making the HUD difficult to read. Turning off the early 2000's car neons would be awesome as well.
I think the Clipper and the Dropship are suffering from the same disease. Frankly speaking it's called a lack of gameplay. The key is in the description of the ship. The Clipper has no important cargo or Personnel to carry and the drop ship has no special forces to drop.
I tried three different times, and simply could not say it better myself.
No really ? Great Job.
Seems like you don't read between the lines too well. So here, have another, more obvious hint.
Challenger / Chieftain / Crusader
But nice to meet you anyway you "20+ year experienced modeler" person.
Good luck with your future modeling endeavors.
;-D
You must have made a really solid point if you have to poke fun at someone for not "reading between the lines" to see the hidden genius of your message.
So ignoring equating changing internals to remodelling the ship
When has a ship ever been resized since release, balance or otherwise?
When have FDev ever changed the size of a ship as that is where
"You can't adjust the dimensions of a ship!" comes from, you can be as sick and tired of that as much as you want, but it has never happened before.
Not liking the fact doesn't magically change thee fact does it?
Not liking the fact doesn't magically change thee fact does it?
