Completely by accident, Distant Worlds 2 has made the bubble a nicer place!

[Slange Lands]

Okay, here are some more mildly silly questions.

Are Thargoid Interceptors rammable?
Do their petals just bend?

How about if you froze them first and then rammed them?

Are they even freezable?

Thank you in advance!

 

[Rinzler o7o7o7]

Okay, here are some more mildly silly questions.

Are Thargoid Interceptors rammable?
Do their petals just bend?

How about if you froze them first and then rammed them?

Are they even freezable?

Thank you in advance!

Yes, you can ram them, and their movement trajectory can be thrown off with rams.

Their hull doesn't take any damage from it though. However, their post-heart-destruction shields do, and ramming is currently the best tactic for removing those shields quickly.

 

[Ozmodion]

well... i didn't expect my little comment to cause such a discussion on how many sideys it takes to change a light bulb lol

I dont really go on discord so don't get those messages for baiting to open, also when in-game i pretty much ignore local chat and only read the squadron chat, so again, i don't see the baiting messages. I can honestly say i'm one of those commanders that they will never get into open. Why:

A couple months ago i was busy unlocking engineers and getting my AspX ready for DW2. then FDev announced the new Phantom. I thought i would have a look at the Krait Mk II and see how it was (view, feel etc) and if i liked it then i would put my trusty Asp into storage and go for a phantom. To that end i needed funds. I got my T9 out and started some trading. with that boat i could create 2 to 3 Million credit profit on every run. Back then i was playing in Open as i was not part of any group. I was at Slough Orbital, i stocked up on some random commodities and plotted my route as per EDDB. On the way into the station i noticed a ship (human player) doing loops just outside the station. I took no notice of it as i had never encountered a ganker before and thought it was somebody having a bit of fun. When i left the station with my T9 brimming full of commodities, said player was obviously waiting for me and it took approx 5 seconds to destroy poor old me. Well it then cost me about 12 Million in rebuy and the commodity to get back into the game.

I learnt a valuable lesson that day.

 

[Patrone2012]

maybe a next CG?

Maybe it should be a CG for the following waypoints to get rid of the gankers in open by massive, coordinated attack of DW2 Fleetdefence? What is most annoying that DW2 now takes place in several private groups where the players in the different groups never meet eachother all due to a bunch lessbrained individuals. I stay in PG Fleetcom for the rest of the trip. When I am back I possibly go back to solo. Lost all my exploration data of the first 5000 ly of the trip because I was not yet in PG Fleetcom and came in open (thinking it was save so far away from the bubble) where CMDR Chew and Kick Bubblegum shot my unarmed ASP in the back (damn you @sshol3). IN PG Fleetcom everything is fine. I allready met many very nice people.

 

[Krash]

haha

it's a lovely dream, isn't it?

How many could one fit into an instance realistically?

32 is the limit per instance.

 

[Ian Doncaster]

32 is the limit per instance.

In unpopulated systems it's possible to exceed 100 using wings - as I expect we'll see later on in the expedition. In populated systems even getting to 32 I think would be difficult.

Anything above about 50 has serious performance issues, though. Fine for sitting around getting screenshots, but not for much else.

 

[Henkka77]

32 is the limit per instance.

And this is not true.

Officially, the instance maximum is 16 players. That is what Fdev has stated.
There is a softcap around 16-25 cmdrs and hardcap around 25-30 and after that the instance becomes extremely unstable. There are many things which affects that, two biggest things being where does the host of the instance live and does he/she has a good and stable upload connection.
I dont believe in 100 cmdr instances anymore after what i have seen in Elite during the past year, the situation is way worse than it was 3 years ago. And even if you could get 100 cmdrs nowadays, it would be so awful to be in with that abysmal FPS, i wouldnt want to be there for any price.

 

[Maolagin]

I bought a sidewinder last night and was disappointed not to find any of them.. must try again

Funny reading this thread today, I did exactly this last night too. Mainly to get on the board for the combat CG, but I figured hey, cheap gank bait. Stock E-rated, armed with the only non-mining-weapon Omega sells: small fixed cannons. I did borrow the chaff launcher off my real ship, and applied a couple of pinned blueprints. All I had that was applicable was armored PP and clean drives, and not heavily engineered 'cause I wasn't about to spend the mats to engineer E-rated parts past like G3.

Didn't actually find any hostile players in Open, maybe I'll try it again next weekend. But I did make it back to the station with a bounty I took from a deadly NPC Eagle. But then I tussled with an Elite Adder and had to turn tail with 7% hull left! Who puts SCBs in an Adder, anyway? Good fun, but I gotta say - with an E-class PD it's a loooong time between boosts!

 

[Deleted member 115407]

Funny reading this thread today, I did exactly this last night too. Mainly to get on the board for the combat CG, but I figured hey, cheap gank bait. Stock E-rated, armed with the only non-mining-weapon Omega sells: small fixed cannons. I did borrow the chaff launcher off my real ship, and applied a couple of pinned blueprints. All I had that was applicable was armored PP and clean drives, and not heavily engineered 'cause I wasn't about to spend the mats to engineer E-rated parts past like G3.

Didn't actually find any hostile players in Open, maybe I'll try it again next weekend. But I did make it back to the station with a bounty I took from a deadly NPC Eagle. But then I tussled with an Elite Adder and had to turn tail with 7% hull left! Who puts SCBs in an Adder, anyway? Good fun, but I gotta say - with an E-class PD it's a loooong time between boosts!

Gankers gotta sleep too, you know

 

[Razour]

Will they continue to follow us? I HOPE they follow us! Because in a strange, almost completely accidental manner, Distant Worlds 2 has all of a sudden made "The Bubble" a somewhat nicer place to be!
Because CMDR Harry Potter and many of his fellow miscreants are HERE, chasing US. Instead of "ganking the noobs" back home!"

Ref: https://www.edsm.net/en_GB/expeditions

I guess it's plausible that "Space Force Expedition 2" is just trolling but it could also be interpreted as a statement of intent...

 

[Dr. Nagi]

I thought about doing this last night, but i was playing Diablo 3 (you can only chip at rocks for so long and i dont want to get burnt out) and didnt go back into ED.

I think we all should buy sideys and go on a mass attack. hopefully they havent gone into the station and when they re-spawn they will be back in the bubble. I wonder how many sideys it will take with 1E pulse lasers to take out an armed to the teeth FDL?

Afaik Harry is using a Python with double shot + screening shell frag cannons and the others have similar weapons loadout. So go for kinetic resistance.

 

[Phoenix_Dfire]

If you look at the Distant Gank Kill board. They are claiming they've killed off almost 2500 ships in DW2.

This feels a little over inflated to me but is that number accurate?

 

[Maolagin]

If you look at the Distant Gank Kill board. They are claiming they've killed off almost 2500 ships in DW2.

This feels a little over inflated to me but is that number accurate?

It's ... not implausible? I wouldn't read too much into it yet, though.

So, the numbers are probably real enough. They are collecting log files, so they do have the means to tally this information, and I haven't heard anyone making specific claims that they're falsifying them.

I can't find the post now, but one of them shared the hourly breakdown for the first ten days or so, at which point they were a little over 1000 kills. It was about 750 Pallaeni, 250 Omega mining, single digits anywhere else. Both of those are published waypoint systems with stations, so local respawn for the targets and local rearm for the attackers. Even out in Omega, attackers respawn at the detention center next door on the off chance they blow up. So except for the occasional pilot who got unlucky enough to get caught with unsold exploration data, nobody has lost anything but rebuys and mined goods. Just like at any other CG.

It will be interesting to see how the dynamics change once the fleet is far out in the black, with long flights back from respawn, where the remaining hostiles will be those able to keep up and be self-sufficient.

 

[ZeroAi]

So we've had some... Shall we say - most persistent wolves waiting for the sheep to make a mistake and fly in open mode while on the Expedition. Most of you know who I speak of. (I'll mention one of them further down) But it's not just one guy. There are several very notorious names who have followed us into the black.

I was watching the usual "come out to open, it's safe" nonsense devolving into the even more inevitable trash talk out at Omega station. Not chiming in, just watching occasionally as I went about the business of re-configuring my ship for some more mining work.

When all of a sudden the following thought burst forth and I almost laughed myself off my chair!

"So wait-a-minute... these PVP "gankers" are out here - WAY out here. Chasing US. We are arguably more elusive prey. Because most of us do NOT play in open and know better. Oh for certain, there's a trickle of newer players to feed their starved egos with easy kills etc.

But... they are here -- and they are NOT back in the bubble! They are not killing new players just joining the game who don't know better. On the next Community Goal, if the next one is back in the bubble, it will take them a LONG time to get back! So it might be a little bit safer and quieter than usual.

Will they continue to follow us? I HOPE they follow us! Because in a strange, almost completely accidental manner, Distant Worlds 2 has all of a sudden made "The Bubble" a somewhat nicer place to be!

Because CMDR Harry Potter and many of his fellow miscreants are HERE, chasing US. Instead of "ganking the noobs" back home!"

Just thought I'd share that with you all. I find this immensely amusing. And of course I can't take any credit for any genius in this. I don't think the planners of the Expedition had this in mind. This is just one of those social phenomenon type things that when you notice it, it's just damned FUNNY!

You make a great point! +Rep

But I also don't play in open because, "I ain't got no time for their $^!%"

It's the same reason why I don't volunteer to babysit stranger's children, or pickup trash on the side of the road. Kudos to all of you who do volunteer your time cleaning up other's messes! You Rock!

 

[Screemonster]

I bought a sidewinder last night and was disappointed not to find any of them.. must try again

I've found that flying a sidewinder in open with anything above a mostly harmless combat rank tends to trip people's "that guy is up to something" alarms.

I've still not found the ideal fit for maximum shadiness. I was out with mine launchers and an interdictor at the weekend, got given a rather wide berth.

 

[Rock-Hermit]

If you look at the Distant Gank Kill board. They are claiming they've killed off almost 2500 ships in DW2.

This feels a little over inflated to me but is that number accurate?

According to the traffic report at Pallaeni there were 25,000 ships there for launch night, so only half of them are part of dw2, the rest? Who knows, onlookers, the PvP crowd, people just curious about whats going on. So a lot of kills at Pallanei may not have been anything to do with DW itself and were just people caught up in the occasion? Also its important to remember who the people are who are compiling these kill-stats. Its the gankers themselves, and they wouldn't fudge the numbers to massage their own ego's, would they? Maybe frontier will be able to confirm it and post something in the newsletter.

 

[Ian Doncaster]

According to the traffic report at Pallaeni there were 25,000 ships there for launch night

If one ship jumps into the system and back ten times (repeatedly high-waking out of attacks, for example...), then it appears on the traffic report 10 separate times - conversely, if a ship on the expedition had got there a couple of days early, parked up, left the system at the mass jump and never came back, it wouldn't appear on the traffic report at all.

Comparing with other data sources I would make a rough guess that the player count was probably around 7,000 on the day: remember, there may be 12,000ish people on the roster, but not all of them will set off when it comes to it, and not all of the ones that do set off will be on the exact same schedule.

 

[CMDR Davanix]

Its not so much pvpers id be afraid of its the ones waiting at beagle point that left once it was advertised and their alts are sitting there waiting for the stream frenzy finishing move haha

 

[Olivia Vespera]

There isn't much to worry about.

At this point of the expedition we've all made so many good memories that it doesn't matter what they do. I mean we brought down the server collectively. The biggest gank in the history of elite.

If anything happens at beagle point in the PG, then keep calm, don't rebuy, tell an admin and open a ticket.

It'll all be sorted in a day or two and then forgotten.

Which is how it should be. I worry that in this thread we're helping to spread their name around. I (and other DW2 organizers) say don't do that.

Don't share their names or talk about *their expedition* it's irrelevant to us.

They want attention and we should not give it to them.


As to the OP, it's likely they have alts. I have wondered though of powerplay is much more manageable with 13,000 less cmdrs.

 

[Ozmodion]

I dunno about promoting them, but i do think its nice that we have them there prowling the open waves like wolves waiting to pounce. it give a sense of danger just outside the reach of us PGers