Thargoid invasion is *really* slow going.

CMDR Hagglebeard

CMDR Hagglebeard
It's been about a year and a half since open hostilities began between independent pilots and Thargoids. They're great fun to fight, but has the story reached it's peak? Is the whole story arc of the Oresrian invasion and subsequent retreat through us, the bullet shield, going to be forever ongoing?

The Oresrians haven't seen much progress. They barely touch the core systems, besides a few station attacks on the outskirts of the bubble, and have inflicted no permanent damage, besides a few outposts, scattered here and there. The attacks have stagnated. Even when they attack a system full force, spawning AX conflict zones and disabling (never destroying) stations, in just a few weeks, the stations are repaired, with no lasting mark on the system to ever make any difference to anyone who'd look.

Is it going to speed up? Are we going to see the wall of ships Salome saw when she jumped to Col 70? Are these permit-locked sectors ever going to open up?
 

Urazz

U
Yeah, that's one thing I can say I hate about Frontier is that they are making the story/progression of the Thargoids proceed at a glacial pace. Hell, I've been taking a break from the game for a month and it doesn't look like anything changed at all.
 

ZAKALWEINC8876

ZAKALWEINC8876
CMDR Hagglebeard said:
It's been about a year and a half since open hostilities began between independent pilots and Thargoids. They're great fun to fight, but has the story reached it's peak? Is the whole story arc of the Oresrian invasion and subsequent retreat through us, the bullet shield, going to be forever ongoing?

The Oresrians haven't seen much progress. They barely touch the core systems, besides a few station attacks on the outskirts of the bubble, and have inflicted no permanent damage, besides a few outposts, scattered here and there. The attacks have stagnated. Even when they attack a system full force, spawning AX conflict zones and disabling (never destroying) stations, in just a few weeks, the stations are repaired, with no lasting mark on the system to ever make any difference to anyone who'd look.

Is it going to speed up? Are we going to see the wall of ships Salome saw when she jumped to Col 70? Are these permit-locked sectors ever going to open up?
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This. So much this.
 

Dash

Dash
I like it, I haven't gotten round to Thargoid content yet, and it looks like I haven't missed anything :D

It's the problem with an online game like this, you can't just get it over and done with people who are currently playing, new players need to be able to experience it. Especially as something as crucial to Elite as Thargoids. It needs to be an on-going battle that never really ends, just another aspect of the game. But it does need to seem more dynamic, maybe with annual or quarterly pushes by the Thargoids deep into the bubble.

As it happens, I've spent two evenings this week trying to find Thargoids to no avail. I've had to go out to Merope, but I wanted to play with friends who aren't equipped to fly out that far in a reasonable time. It feels very much like, Thargoid content is Pleiades.
 

CMDR Hagglebeard

CMDR Hagglebeard
Dash said:
I like it, I haven't gotten round to Thargoid content yet, and it looks like I haven't missed anything :D

It's the problem with an online game like this, you can't just get it over and done with people who are currently playing, new players need to be able to experience it. Especially as something as crucial to Elite as Thargoids. It needs to be an on-going battle that never really ends, just another aspect of the game. But it does need to seem more dynamic, maybe with annual or quarterly pushes by the Thargoids deep into the bubble.

As it happens, I've spent two evenings this week trying to find Thargoids to no avail. I've had to go out to Merope, but I wanted to play with friends who aren't equipped to fly out that far in a reasonable time. It feels very much like, Thargoid content is Pleiades.
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Really wish Thargoid content wasn't separate. The big bad interceptors can remain that way, neutral until fired upon, but I think thargoid scouts making attacks throughout the core worlds would be pretty great.

If you want thargoids, Dash, look into Non-human signal sources, between threat 3 and 9. Anything above 5 will eat you if you're not totally prepped, though. If you go to the news, you'll find systems with damaged starports, which generally have AX conflict zones in them - the Pilots Fed fighting goids. I think this week's incursions are all over, so they might not be around until next week or the week after.
 

gingervegeta

G
Why don't they always attack, Why do they take escape pods, What's their story, Are there more than one kind, Where do they come from, Do they really mean us any harm? These and many more are questions I would like answered but I'm beginning to doubt we will get any.
 

CMDR Hagglebeard

CMDR Hagglebeard
gingervegeta said:
Why don't they always attack, Why do they take escape pods, What's their story, Are there more than one kind, Where do they come from, Do they really mean us any harm? These and many more are questions I would like answered but I'm beginning to doubt we will get any.
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According to Elite: Premonition (book by Drew Wagar), they do mean us harm, but not directly. There's a civil war ongoing between the Oresrians and the Klaxians, and the oresrians, the ones we've seen so far, are on the retreat. They intend to use human space as a bullet shield, to cut a hole right through the middle and escape out the other side, with the pursuing Klaxians getting caught attacking humans as they try to follow.
 

Arkadi

Arkadi
CMDR Hagglebeard said:
According to Elite: Premonition (book by Drew Wagar), they do mean us harm, but not directly. There's a civil war ongoing between the Oresrians and the Klaxians, and the oresrians, the ones we've seen so far, are on the retreat. They intend to use human space as a bullet shield, to cut a hole right through the middle and escape out the other side, with the pursuing Klaxians getting caught attacking humans as they try to follow.
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To me it seems we have met only one kind of Thargoid yet. Sure they have different classes of Interceptors and Scouts, but they all fight together as one. The circular symbol-patterns haven't been recongniced as different clan symbols yet too. So I wonder, where is the other Thargoid civil-war faction hiding? In some permit locked system still? Slooooow goooooing, or plain a wrong theory?
 
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Turd Ferguson

Turd Ferguson
any talk of multiple goid typea is pure bunk ar this point. there is exactly zero indication ingame that this is happening.

goids are goids. enjoy.

due to how they're implemented and must be fought with arbitrary limits imposed to make them more difficult and require unengineerable weapons they cant be instantly aggressive because players who don't want to participate or are new and just dojt know would be turned off or complain.
 
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Arkadi

Arkadi
oflow said:
I was expecting the thargoids to start randomly hyperdicting people in the bubble with the invasion.
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Hyperdiction in the bubble happens sometimes if you are jumping into one of the infested systems. But as usually Thargoids only do theire EMP and scanning thing and don't attack, if you don't attack.
 

Skizomeuh

Skizomeuh
[RP] What if it never was an invasion, but just some ill-intentioned organizations that want everyone to think it is one?
 

Ian Doncaster

Ian Doncaster
CMDR Hagglebeard said:
According to Elite: Premonition (book by Drew Wagar), they do mean us harm, but not directly. There's a civil war ongoing between the Oresrians and the Klaxians, and the oresrians, the ones we've seen so far, are on the retreat. They intend to use human space as a bullet shield, to cut a hole right through the middle and escape out the other side, with the pursuing Klaxians getting caught attacking humans as they try to follow.
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This theory has never made much sense to me. The Thargoids have fairly advanced hyperspace technology [1], and the bubble isn't particularly large on a galactic scale. If you take the Cone-to-Orion zone behind the permit locks as Thargoid territory, then you can draw a line from at least some of that to basically anywhere in the galaxy without needing to go through the bubble at all.

Further, the Oresrians are supposedly weaker than the Klaxians - or why would they be needing to retreat? - so surely they would be slowed *more* by the need to fight their way through the bubble than the Klaxians would.

More plausible I think is that there's something inside the bubble that the Thargoids are interested in - maybe some resource that will help them win the civil war, or maybe there's no civil war and they just think this is their territory - that they're hanging around to try to get.

[1] The evidence suggests that human technology is currently considerably better in terms of travel speed, though. But even if the Thargoids are limited to ~50LY/week travel speed - I'm not sure we've seen them go faster than that - then they could still cross the bubble in six weeks, or go around it in ten weeks.

Either way the Thargoids have been wandering around the bubble for considerably longer than that, so don't appear to be in a massive hurry to get anywhere else.
 

Factabulous

Factabulous
Ian Doncaster said:
More plausible I think is that there's something inside the bubble that the Thargoids are interested in - maybe some resource that will help them win the civil war, or maybe there's no civil war and they just think this is their territory - that they're hanging around to try to get.
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Yup - at the recent Dinner with Devs it was apparently said that the Thargoids are looking for resources, and their movement algorithms were done by the same dev who did the megaship movements - which were also based around finding similar systems to traverse. ofc we don't know what resources, or why.
 

Magichp

Magichp
I haven't seen any Alien invasion so far, some skirmishes leftovers here and there sure, and some systems littered with Thargoids but with little human presence. It rather seems that we invaded something we didn't even see.

And I most surely have never seen any Oresrians or Klaxxians ingame, even though I did kill my fair share of Thargoids ;)
 
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EdzUp

EdzUp
For me the best part is systems under the Thargoid control are just business as usual, the missions don't mention them at all. I was in Merope and the NHSS are all over but nobody's bothered it's like the galaxy is populated by British people who have seen it before lol
 
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