Next Update = 2020

[maintenance mode]
It's when the company specifically says that new things aren't coming, and that the only changes that will happen now are things to keep the game running through at least a few OS updates (if you're lucky - might just stop working next Patch Tuesday).
Exactly. If you want to see what maintenance mode looks like, see Guild Wars 1 for an example.

Content drought, on the other hand...
 
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Maintenance mode is where a game is left on life support, with the company behind it claiming great things are coming... at some point, where an announcement will confirm an announcement of something to be confirmed at a later date... e.g. Frontier's MO.

You're just making stuff up so you can shoehorn it into your argument.
 
Some people just can't accept that they are wrong. As soon as someone feels the need to call others white knights you can tell that they don't have an argument.

Very poor reasoning there. Anyone with even a bit of sense can see who are the white knights maintaining the echo chamber around here. Much healthier to call them out on it even moreso when people like you don't like it.
 
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Very poor reasoning there. Anyone with even a bit of sense can see who are the white knights maintaining the echo chamber around here. Much healthier to call them out on it even moreso when people like you don't like it.

White knight or Black knight doesnt make a difference. We all want the same thing in the end or else we wouldnt be here.
 
Very poor reasoning there. Anyone with even a bit of sense can see who are the white knights maintaining the echo chamber around here. Much healthier to call them out on it even moreso when people like you don't like it.

No, you were just wrong.
 
Very poor reasoning there. Anyone with even a bit of sense can see who are the white knights maintaining the echo chamber around here. Much healthier to call them out on it even moreso when people like you don't like it.

The same argument applies to you.
 
Very poor reasoning there. Anyone with even a bit of sense can see who are the white knights maintaining the echo chamber around here. Much healthier to call them out on it even moreso when people like you don't like it.

Yet you accused others of making 'toxic posts'.
 
Very poor reasoning there. Anyone with even a bit of sense can see who are the white knights maintaining the echo chamber around here. Much healthier to call them out on it even moreso when people like you don't like it.

Luckly, once you have "discovered" them, you can put them in the ignore list.

Basically the development of this game has been halved since 2016: I still remember when Fd were working on Horizon expansion and they didn't fear anything to shows us how and what they were doing.

It's clear that Ed is a cash cow in maintenance mode with little effort to put on it...
 

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Very poor reasoning there. Anyone with even a bit of sense can see who are the white knights maintaining the echo chamber around here. Much healthier to call them out on it even moreso when people like you don't like it.

I personally think ad hominems, like when you declare someone a white knight, are even poorer. They can not even be considered reasoning at all, just mud slinging. Ad hominems like that are usually only uttered when someone has run out of arguments of his own, and can not counter the actual arguments the other party is showing. Sort of an adult tantrum if you wish.
 
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I personally think ad hominems, like when you declare someone a white knight, are even poorer. They can not even be considered reasoning at all, just mud slinging. And they are usually only uttered when someone has run out of actual arguments.

If often find some people don't even have an argument, they instantly jump to blaming everything on white knights. Happens a lot on the Steam forums.
 
Luckly, once you have "discovered" them, you can put them in the ignore list.

Basically the development of this game has been halved since 2016: I still remember when Fd were working on Horizon expansion and they didn't fear anything to shows us how and what they were doing.

It's clear that Ed is a cash cow in maintenance mode with little effort to put on it...

FDEV didn't show anything from Horizons up until a few months before release.
 
Maintenance mode sounds good to me. I'd want them to do actual maintenance as opposed to "nothing", but otherwise sounds fine.
 
If often find some people don't even have an argument, they instantly jump to blaming everything on white knights. Happens a lot on the Steam forums.

Discuss this:

Basically the development of this game has been halved since 2016: I still remember when Fd were working on Horizon expansion and they didn't fear anything to shows us how and what they were doing.

if you have something to discuss of course...
 
As Black said the only thing that makes sense is a new game title. For the fans it hurts to hear that. But that would be good business. And FDev have already done this by not investing in Elite over the past 2+ years but instead invested in new titles.

FDev have stated pretty clearly that the 'New Era' DLC will be an 'in-game' release, not a new title. So both y'all's thinking must have a kink in it somewhere ;)

What does 'The Next Era' contain?
The Next Era update will be in-game content...



The significant flaw here in your hypothesis, and with the diehard fans hope, is that is doesn't make good business sense to invest in this four year old game. Think about what this costs to deliver: if there really is 100 developers working for two years that's easily in the $20-$25M cost range and likely more. Obviously FDev would want to see a decent profit so sales would have to be in the $60M or greater. How much do you think this DLC will sell for?

I think you said you like to see facts. So do these facts add up and make any sense for your hypothesis? Would any developer invest $25M in updating the engine in a four year old game - six or seven year old game by the time of the change - and expect it to be profitable? Umm... No.

OK, taking your $20-$25m costs for 2 years as a reasonable generic benchmark (which I do, given about $10K a man-month seems to be something of an industry norm). Let me flip it around for you.

Why wouldn't a company take a measured punt on this proposition?:


Add in potential factors like:


And there seems to be fertile ground there for the title still. Decent attachment rates for past paid DLC, cash in reserve to tide over investment phases, past success from expanding to new platforms etc.

You've convinced yourself that there's no reason to invest serious cash in the current title, and poor odds of a decent return. FDev, from their public statements, seem to have a different take ;)
 
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