CH Pro Throttle and . . . ?
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Just a quick tip for anybody with the following specific requirements:
1. Wants to assign their Fighterstick's mode button to a single function; and
2. Doesn't want to use Speedkeys
To avoid the issue where ED's bindings assign the button as JOY 3 + JOY 16/17/18, you can:
1. Assign the button in the normal way
2. Open C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Local\Frontier Developments\Elite Dangerous\Options\Bindings\Custom.binds
3. Find the relevant section, remove the Modifier line, and if necessary amend the Secondary (or Primary) line to Key="Joy_3"
1. Wants to assign their Fighterstick's mode button to a single function; and
2. Doesn't want to use Speedkeys
To avoid the issue where ED's bindings assign the button as JOY 3 + JOY 16/17/18, you can:
1. Assign the button in the normal way
2. Open C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Local\Frontier Developments\Elite Dangerous\Options\Bindings\Custom.binds
3. Find the relevant section, remove the Modifier line, and if necessary amend the Secondary (or Primary) line to Key="Joy_3"
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Am I right in saying the thrust on this device is actually slightly unsuited to ED?
IMHO, the trust level (like on my cheap & cheerful joystick) should have a mid-point for zero thrust. Forwards from that point is then increasing degrees of forwards thrust, while back from that mid-point is increasing reverse thrust.
I get this impression this controller is only geared towards +ve thrust so than you have to press another button to flick between +ve and -ve thrust, which IMHO would seem rather unwieldy? ie: If you want to feather and alternate between small +ve/-ve forwards thrust.
IMHO, the trust level (like on my cheap & cheerful joystick) should have a mid-point for zero thrust. Forwards from that point is then increasing degrees of forwards thrust, while back from that mid-point is increasing reverse thrust.
I get this impression this controller is only geared towards +ve thrust so than you have to press another button to flick between +ve and -ve thrust, which IMHO would seem rather unwieldy? ie: If you want to feather and alternate between small +ve/-ve forwards thrust.
There's no centre detent on the throttle, so unless you have a largish deadzone it can be tricky in 'full-range' mode. One genius forumite modified his throttle to have a centre detent though.
However, 'forward only' with a button for reversal I find *much* nicer anyway. It's very easy to get small changes of velocity.
Feathering forward and backward is a breeze, and I use it often for scooping.
Just put the throttle at a low forward setting, and click the button to reverse. It's very intuitive I find.
I really don't think there's a throttle commercially available that I'd swap it for.
I can understand that...
And I assume you use the onboard mini joystick for vertical/lateral thrust? How controllable do you find it with that little stick? ie: Is it accurate enough to be of real use?
I noticed last night when trying to using my digital hat for flying sideways and attacking, having to pepper it to adjust the sideways speed wasn't ideal. Would have preferred to slowly increase/decrease sideways thrust.
My CH throttle is an older version: no mini-stick, but a 8-way POV hat in its place (used for vert/lat thrusters). I would prefer an analogue stick there I think, rather than blipping the digital hat, but not too stressed about it as I don't consciously have to think about it.
It's also probably a lot easier because the control is separate - I wouldn't like to assign vert/lat thrusters to a digital hat on the main stick.
Some people mention that mini-stick needs a large-ish deadzone, but I doubt that would be any kind of problem either - it's still going to give you nice analogue control.
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Well, that analog stick would be the only reason I'd really be getting the unit for. I'm all set as it is, but finding accurate lateral/vertical thrust a bit of a pain, hence this thread!
Actually contemplating using peddles for thrust (forwards/backwards) and then getting a second joystick for my left had for lateral/vertical thrust etc
I'l have a play...
Outstanding! Thanks!
Pleased to help!
In case it benefits anybody else, somebody has since posted the same thing in a slightly more comprehensible form here:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showpost.php?p=662412&postcount=5
Nope. I have my CH throttle set to full range. Push forward to move forward, pull back to move backwards, centered is stop. It doesn't have a notch or indent for easy centering, though, which is a mixed blessing.
On the one hand, you can easily switch from forward to reverse without having to exert extra effort at the center. On the other hand, it isn't easy to keep it centered on those rare occasions you want to stay still.
You can get around this in two ways. First is to set up a dead zone, either in the game or using CHs control manager. The other is to use CHs scripting language to add a control to either automatically treat your throttle as centered while pressed, or a toggle control that does the same thing.
I've got both: left toe pedal while pressed overrides the physical throttle, sending a centered throttle signal to ED. Pressing the pedal fully turns the "parking brakes" on and off. That's the fun thing about having a full CH HOTAS: you can add all sorts of advanced controls that don't exist in the game, but you think they should.
And the little joystick gives fairly accurate control of the vertical/horizontal thrusters?
When I used the Pro Throttle I found the mini stick thing a bit sensitive. I think using the CH software to put a in a curve would cure that. Quite a bit of deadband was needed though. Gone back to my Warthog throttle though now.
It seems fine to me yes. I dont really find accuracy too important for lateral thrusters, the more important thing for me is having the level of thrust controllable rather than on/off.
If you have a CH throttle why do you use the hat on the T16000m for your thrusters and not the analogue on the throttle? :S
I put a steep s-curve on mine, and I utterly love the little thumb stick. Can't imagine going back now.
I started out with a Hotas X from thrustmaster, but the stick just wasnt precise enough. Mine had a huge deadzone in the center making fine adjustments impossible, and ended up in jerking the stick around in heated combat. So I returned it and went for a T16000m. Joystick wise this was the best move, and I utterly love that stick. But im beginning to miss the thottle on the left hand.
Looking at this thread, and after repeated views of Brumsters video, Im going to get a CH throttle.
Thanks for all your input
Looking at this thread, and after repeated views of Brumsters video, Im going to get a CH throttle.
Thanks for all your input