Forgive me, you said:
You also said:
Now you say:
Bear in mind, that people being sympathetic or understanding is part of the thinking process. If they are sympathetic to your issue, or understand it, they are more likely to support it and listen to what you have to say.
You also said:
Now you say:
Which is seeking to change their minds by making them think twice before buying.
But you do care, otherwise you'd not have made this thread.. correct?
Which they are much more likely to see, and understand if threads are constructive and helpful.
Considering the majority of this thread has not been about the ship kits, I wouldn't say this discussion has been helpful.
Rather impressed with yourself, aren't you?
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Well, instead of talking about how to make fdev consider their kits are poorly made, you direct all your posts against my way of writing posts in a language which is not even my main language, posts irrelevant photos of the kits in an angle that hides what I am criticizing for example. You are not helping neither yourself nor the game.
You know what I've noticed about this forum?
Two things: A) it's full of old dudes, B) those old dudes like polite, constructive discourse that they can all participate in and get to the core of the issue; in order to present it to Frontier in a way that the developer can utilise that information the most efficiently.
You are being attacked because they didn't care for the tone of your OP.
They accept criticism, but it needs to be delivered in a non-confrontational manner that doesn't dismiss all other opinions as "white knighting" right off the cuff.
Two things: A) it's full of old dudes, B) those old dudes like polite, constructive discourse that they can all participate in and get to the core of the issue; in order to present it to Frontier in a way that the developer can utilise that information the most efficiently.
You are being attacked because they didn't care for the tone of your OP.
They accept criticism, but it needs to be delivered in a non-confrontational manner that doesn't dismiss all other opinions as "white knighting" right off the cuff.
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not my point.
FWIW, I really like the "roll cage" that's part of the AspX raider kit.
Wish they'd make a clean version of it to fit to non-gnarly Asps... and other ships.
Which, in turn, makes me wish that, instead of selling specific ship-kits, they'd sell "part packs" which could be fitted to a variety of ships.
Also, it'd be lovely if, after fitting a roll-cage to my AspX (or Krait, or Vulture etc) it increased the hull armour a bit.
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So if something is not worded as you wish, even if it is a good point, you dismiss it entirely. Even if you understood what I meant. That's weird.
Your OP has resulted in a thread where no users have disagreed with the core critique but vast-majority of comments are discussing your atrocious communication-style instead. I don't think that listening to others and self-reflection are your strongest traits.
Constructive discourse is a two way street; you can't make a criticism and then dismiss all other opinions at the same time.
So, why should people entertain what you have to say, when you dismiss what they have to say in your opening post?
So, why should people entertain what you have to say, when you dismiss what they have to say in your opening post?
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On the contrary, thanks to my very blunt and clearly worded communication style everyone agrees the ship kits are bad and such a long thread now has more chances to be viewed.
I'm stubborn. I support OP's position regarding the quality of the ship kits; but I want them to understand that the quality of their post matters just as much.
I commend your patient attempts at helping the OP improve their communication skills o7
edit: ...although those attempts appear to be futile
We already knew, your rant had zero to do with it.
Sorry if that bruises your ego but still, never mind eh?
Its funny, because I can speak Russian (badly) but i can do it:
1) Without being abusive to the person i'm adressing
2) Without dismissing their opinion before they have even said anything
3) With politeness
This is not about native language. You intentionally used the word "shame" vs the devs. You intentionally dismissed the opinion of anyone who would disagree with you as being a "white knight", which is a negative term.
You know enough of the language to intentionally make your OP confrontational and dismissive of the opinions of others.
Now, tell me, if you so dismissive of the opinions of others, why should we pay attention to yours?
Look, i'll give it one last try on this front.
First part would be a bigger technical challenge and probably a rework of the entire ship modelling system (unless they made those parts for every single ship for every piece... a massive job, and then, you'd definitely have clipping and mismatched textures.
The latter is also an issue because it would then raise the spectre of pay-to-win with cosmetics. Remember the fuss about the midnight black pantjobs making ships harder to see so an advantage for PvP?
It's kind of ironic that it seems like it's the iCourier kit which has provoked this discussion, given that the iCourier kit is pretty nice, IMO at least.
Where was the OP back when FDev were phoning it in with the T6, Keelback and DBX ship-kits?
Those truly were atrocious and if FDev had any shame they'd redo them or, at least, revise them.
Where was the OP back when FDev were phoning it in with the T6, Keelback and DBX ship-kits?
Those truly were atrocious and if FDev had any shame they'd redo them or, at least, revise them.
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you people are hopeless. You are one of the reasons this game is half baked. Talking about how I write my thread instead of acknowledging the fact that the community has to make the devs aware of the issues in order to get better content.
What you have achieved by clubbing me today is simply making me regret to try and change things for the better. I hope you are happy, you have one less "atrocious communicator" around.
What you have achieved by clubbing me today is simply making me regret to try and change things for the better. I hope you are happy, you have one less "atrocious communicator" around.
Let's not leave the Viper out of this. It honestly looked like someone had forgotten to do it, and only started and finished the day before. It was so bad. xD