I can't believe that we have 22 pages now because someone won't pay to get their battle-conda transferred in the shipyard menu.
In game travel - the critical flaw?
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To be fair they also want to be ferried round all the engineers so it has nuance.
Just a quick correction it wasn't Sandro that wanted the 3D ship printing, he wanted a more realistic interpretation, what we have now. It was Michael Brooks that wanted instant ship tranfer with 3D printing.True. But what makes a sci-fi setting interesting is often more about what they don't have, as opposed to what they do. Why do you think so many players put up a fuss about Sandro wanting to add in 3D ship printing (which was thankfully killed) and "telepresence" (which wasn't, dang it, but it's firmly in my fanon discontinuity folder) to the Elite Universe? Having well defined limitations makes for a much more interesting setting than one that goes the Kitchen Sink route. The more "big lies" you add to a sci-fi Universe, the more openings you leave for proverbial fridge logic to creep in, and Sandro added enough of those as it is.
Sandro was just a patsy.
I still say that getting Engineered modules back with a rebuy was a mistake.
Michael Brookes was responsible powerpants, wanted 3D ship printing instant transfer, introduced the idea of telepresence with SLF and probably multicrew telepresence as he left just before that was introduced and would have been in charge of that too.
Sandro was lead designer, he didn't make the major decisions.
EDIT: I forgot the Michael Brookes was also responsible for CQC too. In fact there is not much Michael Brookes was in charge of that I liked that much apart from the base game at release, and even then it was barebones.
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I agree. Engineered modules should be lost with ship destruction.
From Merope? Damn straight.
My game time is limited, and end-game pursuits pay poorly in many cases (Tharg bothering notably, given hull repair and deaths). Dedicating extra sessions to pay purely for access to events is a poor proposition.
But you're not in my boat, so don't worry about it
From Merope? Damn straight.
My game time is limited, and end-game pursuits pay poorly in many cases (Tharg bothering notably, given hull repair and deaths). Dedicating extra sessions to pay purely for access to events is a poor proposition.
But you're not in my boat, so don't worry about it
Once you can solo interceptors they pay pretty well. A quick core mining break also helps.
My combat 'Vette can jump 29LY and i consider it to be quite fast at going around in the bubble. Not as fast as my 69LY DBX taxi, but still.
If playtime is scarce, then a bit of planning ahead the game sessions and the ship transfers might be required, but still.. Elite is not the kind of Arcade Game that can be played in 30 minute sessions.
If playtime is scarce, then a bit of planning ahead the game sessions and the ship transfers might be required, but still.. Elite is not the kind of Arcade Game that can be played in 30 minute sessions.
Except for the fact that in this case, they've expressly stated that they'll never do it.Yes. Which is why your 'FDev would never do this' argument holds no weight at all as it stands. It's pretty simple
This isn't an argument, it's a simple fact.
Alas I have not those skills. It's hit and miss whether a Cyclops gets clobbered even in co-op, and then it's a half mil payout due to hull costs.
It's just something I do periodically, hence the transit annoyance
A central point would be: I do what's fun, not necessarily what earns. And I object to said lower earnings being wiped out purely by the act of getting to the next fun thing. It's either a rubbish credit sink, or just simply overpriced, from my perspective.
(Yep I earned good dollar from mining. But it has lost its lustre. Not going to grind it to beat some other grind
)Well you should have said Void! It would have saved you several thousand words of terrible a priori reasoning...
22ly on my engineered, boosted Conda. Tis a lump...
You're still going to need a much bigger fuel scoop, then.
That's certainly true.
But then again, the FSD basically was already providing the same for physical matter anyway.
In the FE2/FFE universe, moving a heavy fighter between Federal and Imperial space would have taken weeks. In Elite Dangerous - even 1.0 - it would take maybe an hour. That should already have broken pretty much everything. An entire warfleet - regardless of its current position - could be deployed to any inhabited system in an hour, with very little ability to intercept it en route even if you knew where it was going. Borders would become virtually non-existent, if you can go from Alioth to Achenar considerably faster than my morning commute into work - and that should have seriously shaken up the political structures of the superpowers especially, when systems can change allegiance overnight then go back the next week.
In peacetime, the ability to move huge amounts of cargo between any two points in less than an hour (or an hour and a half, if it's Hutton), should have reduced trade profits to basically zero.
The ability to travel thousands of LY into deep space in a few hours - even with the early FSDs and a loaded ship, 20 LY a jump would get you 1000 LY an hour safely enough - should have led to uncontrolled human sprawl as every corporation, government, clan, baron, down to the rich kid with two Anacondas to their name rushed to stake their claim and be ruler of their very own system. Sure, most of that sprawl should have been obscure ghost towns, failed settlements, junk outposts which are just two converted T-7s stuck together, etc. - but it just didn't happen at all. And the reappearance of the Thargoids should have set off another massive wave of it, not just a few hundred thousand (out of a bubble of trillions!) deciding to move to Colonia.
Compared with the impacts the FSD didn't have, the impacts telepresence didn't have are relatively minor, I think...
Well, idealy you would sacrifice a size 5 slot for a FSD booster, but in practice even a size 3 FSD booster will make a big difference. And i mean a BIG difference.
Hint: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/walkthrough-guardian-module-blueprints.438289/
We used to dream of getting 22ly... (... insert the 4 Yorkshiremen Video here ...)
Cheers y'all, but yeah I mentioned it's boosted already. (I forget which size, but seem to recall it was a 10ly addition).
(Problem is doubtless that it's stacked with kit & armour etc, but again it comes down to: Do I want to leave a trail of rare modules everywhere / wait for them at the other end because I need them etc. Damn SLF bay is a fixture to avoid having to restock the Guardian SLF. Coz, more redundant traipsing round interstellar shops is not the gameplay I want)
(Problem is doubtless that it's stacked with kit & armour etc, but again it comes down to: Do I want to leave a trail of rare modules everywhere / wait for them at the other end because I need them etc. Damn SLF bay is a fixture to avoid having to restock the Guardian SLF. Coz, more redundant traipsing round interstellar shops is not the gameplay I want
)I have better ones, LOL. Like this one: http://hermes.ffn.ub.es/luisnavarro/nuevo_maletin/Einstein_1905_relativity.pdf
This is Einstein's original 1905 paper (about SR). Count how many times he mentions the curvature of spacetime in it. Like... zero?
Here's another one about SR:
http://physics.mq.edu.au/~jcresser/Phys378/LectureNotes/SpecialRelativityNotes.pdf
It mentions the "curved nature of spacetime" only once - when it briefly mentions general relativity.
For comparison, here is another one, Einstein's original paper on general relativity: http://hermes.ffn.ub.es/luisnavarro/nuevo_maletin/Einstein_GRelativity_1916.pdf
Check it out, and - surprise, surprise! - you'll find all the "bend-the-spacetime-ish" things like gravity and tensors and suchlike in this latter one.
Yeah a physicist who never once mentions "bending" or "curvature" of spacetime in any of his SR videos. Which is not very surprising, since he talks about, you know, special relativity.
Edit: Oh, and I've almost forgotten the best one, Miguel Alcubierre's paper about his hypothetical warp drive (this is why you were talking about SR in the first place):
https://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0009013
The very first sentence of the abstract is: "It is shown how, within the framework of general relativity and without the introduction of wormholes, it is possible to modify a spacetime in a way that allows a spaceship to travel with an arbitrarily large speed."
:-D
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Fair enough.
Plenty of blame to go around for the gradual degradation of this game's setting all around, I guess.
Here's hoping that the current team can turn this beast around, and that the last update wasn't a fluke.
To get a bit back on topic, there is a very recent video of the German Youtuber David Hain. He criticises in his video, the massive scale of game worlds and the resulting travel times, where nothing significant happens. That even lead to auto-pilot like travel systems, where the player doesn't need to do anything.
Also side quests, that tend to be arbitrary and meaningless, due to them not being designed well enough, probably due to the sheer size of the game world. he also mentions that those games stretch so far, the fun and interest vanishes and become more like a job instead. This also goes hand in hand with some parts of a game being behind a massive time investment, that players might miss due to that.
Even though he didn't mention ED specifically, a lot of his finding actually apply to it, too.
Here is the vid:
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9rIemSuc0g
Also side quests, that tend to be arbitrary and meaningless, due to them not being designed well enough, probably due to the sheer size of the game world. he also mentions that those games stretch so far, the fun and interest vanishes and become more like a job instead. This also goes hand in hand with some parts of a game being behind a massive time investment, that players might miss due to that.
Even though he didn't mention ED specifically, a lot of his finding actually apply to it, too.
Here is the vid:
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