Let me buy the Cobra MK IV please.

People always point out how ridiculous it is that those who have access to it want it to stay exclusive. But to play devil's advocate, why do people who don't have access to it absolutely NEED to be able to buy this less than mediocre ship? :D
 
It’s a digital object. Knowing about the release of Horizons before the cut off date is not an achievement or service that justifies refusal to replicate this digital object for those who found out about the game later.

As far as rewards go, for what little was actually done to earn said reward, a few years of exclusivity is more than sufficient as far as I’m concerned. Frontier’s view is a different matter.
A year is enough. To be honest I remember when the console wars were happening, new maps for COD a month before the xbox version for ps users.
 
People always point out how ridiculous it is that those who have access to it want it to stay exclusive. But to play devil's advocate, why do people who don't have access to it absolutely NEED to be able to buy this less than mediocre ship? :D
I wonder if they're the sort of people who go down to their local military base and demand that medals be made available to them.
 
People always point out how ridiculous it is that those who have access to it want it to stay exclusive. But to play devil's advocate, why do people who don't have access to it absolutely NEED to be able to buy this less than mediocre ship? :D
But how do I know that? I love the ocra, for example, but I could list a bunch of ships that do particular things better
 
People always point out how ridiculous it is that those who have access to it want it to stay exclusive. But to play devil's advocate, why do people who don't have access to it absolutely NEED to be able to buy this less than mediocre ship? :D

Does anyone need to justify the aspects of the game they enjoy, or would enjoy if able to?

Very few people would take issue in comparison to how many players would be pleased with access to a ship they weren’t able to acquire before. That should be enough for any developer to approve a change request from their customers - particularly one that requires virtually no effort to implement.
 
I wonder if they're the sort of people who go down to their local military base and demand that medals be made available to them.

If medals were given out to soldiers who made their beds in the morning, then yes, as that’s pretty much the level of services rendered by the Horizons early adopters to gain their MKIV medal.
 
If medals were given out to soldiers who made their beds in the morning, then yes, as that’s pretty much the level of services rendered by the Horizons early adopters to gain their MKIV medal.
If you were of the right age during WW2, you'd have had ample opportunities... I believe the US gives out purple hearts for well, very little... so yes, it is pretty much a case of being there at the right (or perhaps wrong) time.
 
Does anyone need to justify the aspects of the game they enjoy, or would enjoy if able to?

Very few people would take issue in comparison to how many players would be pleased with access to a ship they weren’t able to acquire before. That should be enough for any developer to approve a change request from their customers - particularly one that requires virtually no effort to implement.

At the cost of their credibility I guess. It wasn't marketed as a timed exclusive. But whatever, I don't care personally. I just think both sides are way too invested in this discussion.
 
it endlessly amuses me when we see these constant "let me buy the cobra mk4" threads when the near-universal consensus from everyone who is able to buy the cobra mk4 is that you should not bother buying the cobra mk4
 
Until Frontier formally respond, I can't see any reason the Cobra MkIV can't be made available to all commanders apart from the commitment that it was an exclusive pre-order bonus on PC and Xbox for ordering Horizons.

PS4 never had the offer.
see here


Artificially filtering the shipyard lists (you can purchase the Cobra MkIV, you can't purchase one) is introducing an unnecessary level of coding complexity.
As has already been said on this thread, it is also limiting any revenue that Frontier can make as the percentage of the user base with a Cobra MkIV is incredibly small. see here
For a ship that was an exclusive for the rollout of the Horizons update, now that we are at the end of the Beyond update, I think that it should be made available for all.
It would be a lovely gesture by Frontier to make it available to all in the September update.
 
Until Frontier formally respond, I can't see any reason the Cobra MkIV can't be made available to all commanders apart from the commitment that it was an exclusive pre-order bonus on PC and Xbox for ordering Horizons.

PS4 never had the offer.
see here


Artificially filtering the shipyard lists (you can purchase the Cobra MkIV, you can't purchase one) is introducing an unnecessary level of coding complexity.
As has already been said on this thread, it is also limiting any revenue that Frontier can make as the percentage of the user base with a Cobra MkIV is incredibly small. see here
For a ship that was an exclusive for the rollout of the Horizons update, now that we are at the end of the Beyond update, I think that it should be made available for all.
It would be a lovely gesture by Frontier to make it available to all in the September update.

I suspect their financial analysts, with actual degrees in financial analysis have long since determined this to fall well within the realm of acceptable losses.
 
I was about to say "I bet nobody would care about the existence of the mk4, and indeed new players may never come to realise it exists, if it were just removed from the list of ships that NPCs can spawn with so the only MK4s you ever encountered were CMDRs on the same mode and platform that fly one - so none at all really"

But then I thought "actually, no, let's give NPCs and pirates more ships that regular players can't fly, preferably sub-par ships that are only ever seen in the hands of low-ranked NPCs, so people would start seeing the MK4 as one of those obsolete-unbuyable-rubbish-npc-only ships."

Like, first encounters players will remember the Lanner. They wouldn't actually choose to fly one.
 
I suspect their financial analysts, with actual degrees in financial analysis have long since determined this to fall well within the realm of acceptable losses.
I wonder if those financial analysts could come onto this thread and explain how potential litigation from a 'couple' of Horizon Pre-order commanders and the cost of unpicking the code constraint would out-weigh the store revenue of ship kits and paint jobs for the Cobra MkIV.

If you look at the actual wording that was used to promise the 'Exclusive Cobra MkIV forever' as a pre-order bonus it has more holes in it that swiss cheese.

Exclusive - i.e. in Elite not in any other Frontier (or other) game.
Forever - i.e. if you pre-order Horizons - you can buy the ship in shipyards for as long as the game is running.

No mention of platform, No mention of preventing other commanders from also getting it.
It is all down to the interpretation of the language used and as such subjective.
We are well beyond the release of Horizons on PC or Xbox and I believe that the constraint should now be removed. (i.e. a timed exclusive rather than a permanent exclusive.)
 
My suggestion for the next DLC is:
  • make the pre order bonuses non exclusive
  • maybe X amount of Arx
  • the ship kits for all season/DLC new ships until next DLC are included

Just nice additions that are included in the pre-order pack of the DLC that players can later buy at normal price - that way the pre-order buyers don't regret buying at full price and don't are encouraged to wait until the DLC is discounted.

(And sorry, never ever make the Cobra IV available again - don't break promises)
 
Let's see...
FDev have two options.

a - They keep the Cobra Mk IV as an exclusive... -- Result: A few people on the forum keep making threads about it.
b - They make the Cobra Mk IV available to everyone... -- Result: Nobody ever trusts them again.

Personally I think it's a no brainer. And they can always ban the people whining about it...
 
Suddenly I remembered the thing in the FE2 book about the other versions of the Cobra. They had the Mk1 and Mk3 in the game, and made references to the Mk2 as having been cancelled after proving to be an utter disaster with horrible design flaws that lead to it being removed from the market.

So the pattern so far is "decent, terrible, amazing, mediocre", so maybe when they get around to a Mk5 it'll be really really good. You know, the odd-numbered ones are great and the even numbered ones are awful, like some weird inverse of the star trek movies.
 
Let's see...
FDev have two options.

a - They keep the Cobra Mk IV as an exclusive... -- Result: A few people on the forum keep making threads about it.
b - They make the Cobra Mk IV available to everyone... -- Result: Nobody ever trusts them again.

Personally I think it's a no brainer. And they can always ban the people whining about it...

I wouldn’t trust then any more or less than I already do. Argument b invalid.
 
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