Let me buy the Cobra MK IV please.
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I think 9 pages is enough.
I dont like it but I will drop it. It's a gift to people who helped get the game off the ground. Thanks for helping them as I love this game.
I wish people weren't so snarky with me but I get it, it seems this pops up often.
I dont like it but I will drop it. It's a gift to people who helped get the game off the ground. Thanks for helping them as I love this game.
I wish people weren't so snarky with me but I get it, it seems this pops up often.
Indeed I do. If I'm online the same time as you, and in the same PG, I'll throw you an invite.You have one.
I play with canonn or open
Oh well.
I think I'm in Canonn... or was, but I clear out my groups from time to time. I'm too antisocial for Open, and usually fly in Mobius Eurasia or Solo. Also, usually could be a misnomer, since it's been months since I logged in last and I have no idea where I or my ship might be. I know a few of the forum rogues borrowed my Anaconda and took it for a spin while I was in Germany last month... That could be anywhere by now, though I hope someone returned it to Shinrarta.
Anyway, that's where my Cobra IV lives too, so I'd need to get there from whatever backwater of the milky way I last got drunk in... that may take some time.
History shows us, that on this subject; 9 pages is just getting started.
Please get through your thick skull that not everything in ED is about combat, even less about PvP combat. For everything else except combat the Cobra IV is superior to the MK III in every way, except maybe smuggling, where speed is also more of a factor.
https://beta.coriolis.edcd.io/outfi...vI.Aw18WQ==..EweloBhBGA2MQFMCGBzANokMK5FAoA==
Find another small ship, with as much fire power and strength?
I have smuggled loads of wanted passengers with mine. It teaches you to use the radar.
I didn't say it is completely unfit for those roles, just that the MK III might be better suited in that case
That is the thing about both of the available Cobras. Both are very good multi-role ships, but neither excel at anything. Apart from being good old fashioned fun.I didn't say it is completely unfit for those roles, just that the MK III might be better suited in that case
I never said it was, im arguing the point that the MK3 is better at combat than the MK4 will ever be.
I never said anything on its capabilities as a multirole ship in either a positive nor negative sense.
But please, continue to make assumptions about my "thick skull"
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That was purely due to your reasoning "it is bad at combat, so it's a bad ship per se", which you had presented 3 times at that point already, even after others have pointed out that it has it's uses.
As far as I understand it, you have to have been injured in the line of duty to receive a purple heart. Even being in or near a conflict would be something. Seeing Horizons for sale during the period of offer for the MKIV is still nowhere near equivalent.
I think you've missed the point. It's the weighing of positive and negative impacts of change decisions. For the requested open accessibility of the MKIV, the perceived "breach of trust with their most valued customers", as much of a joke that is, would be a negative impact, but a relatively small one and lesser over time, whereas the positive impact of the change would be hugely greater, and paying off consistently going forward.
What's already available in the game to everyone is completely irrelevant to the discussion.
So we're advocating stealing from old ladies in the streets and traumatising them, just to maintain the consistency of the flawed principle that "a promise should be kept"?
How about saying promises should be kept as long as the overall benefit of keeping them outweighs the overall benefit of breaking them. I'm not talking about personal benefit here, but rather an assessment of positive and negative impacts weighed against each other. For example, if a game developer made a foolish promise that a spaceship in one of their games would be forever exclusive to early adopters who would inevitably diminish in number as active players, particularly as compared to the growing majority of later adopters, then breaking the promise would have a much higher positive than negative impact, whereas keeping the promise results in increasingly more of this negativity.
I don't understand all the banging on about this credibility like it actually means something, or has some measurable material value. They're a games developer. They will create games, and if people like them, they will buy them, or subscribe to them, and they won't care if Frontier made something exclusive years ago, and then made it available to everyone. That's assuming that many of their customers outside this forum would even know about it.
The only people who are actually going to exhibit some unit of caring are from the diminishing minority of early adopters, and only that fraction of them still actively playing, and who oppose the ship losing its exclusivity. Given those early adopters won't lose access to the ship when everyone else gains it, it should be a no-brainer for Frontier to give precedent to the majority of their player base when considering this change request. Every change made will disappoint some and please some. When a developer can guarantee that a change will please the majority, it will be a better decision than many others they've made for their software.
I brought ED pre Mac release when I only had a Mac, I brought Horizons pre release, I decided not to buy an LEP for reasons but now I’m thinking that if I buy the next 2020 DLC I have spent about as much money as LEP owners so then it’s only fair that all future releases should be free to me?
Only if flying a space ship isn't the top priority.
Comparing the Cobra Mk IV to the Krait is an insult for the Krait.
You've only looked at the cons.
With argument b, you cannot speak for everyone. I don't think very many people would actually care, or would look at it with the same perspective.
Some will say "it was exclusive for long enough". Some will say "it's a better decision for the player base overall, and therefore the game".
It's also not a net loss if one or a few people lose this ephemeral trust in Frontier. If the result is that the decision impacts their active player numbers or sales positively, or at least not negatively, then it's not a loss for their business. How and why people go around deciding whether or not to trust a games development company is beyond me though.
As far as the pros go, people who play Elite love spaceships, and consider no amount of spaceships to be enough spaceships. Giving them access to the MKIV would give them something else to try out in the game, which is a positive even if they don't end up liking it or finding a use for it.
Its not that hard. Frontier just need to be brave.
Its not unheard of that preorder bonuses were made available for sale / show up in the steam dlc list as dlc...
I remember with the witcher 3 there was all thee exclusive armors with the preorder, tied to each retailer even as a bonus? In the final super edition everything was included.
That's how you earn goodwill, in contrast to an impression with your backside, dark places, and retention.
Ps I already have cobra 4, cobraconda.
Its not unheard of that preorder bonuses were made available for sale / show up in the steam dlc list as dlc...
I remember with the witcher 3 there was all thee exclusive armors with the preorder, tied to each retailer even as a bonus? In the final super edition everything was included.
That's how you earn goodwill, in contrast to an impression with your backside, dark places, and retention.
Ps I already have cobra 4, cobraconda.