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Make Black Holes a more Dangerous encounter
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There are no existing laws of physics of a black hole that can impact your ship with the current understanding of physics for the FSD.
Even if you fly in normal flight to the black hole the ship AI uses the FSD to shield you from the effects of a black hole as well as prevent you from getting near it.
Even if your ship were to graze the event horizon of a black hole in hyperspace, the physics of a black hole would never have the chance to affect your ship.
Unless for some reasone the ship ai decides to plot a hyper jump directly through the center of a black hole (which would probably cause the black hole to explode from the sheer energy of the impact) there is virtually nothing a black hole can do to your ship and thats with considering real world physics.
Even if you fly in normal flight to the black hole the ship AI uses the FSD to shield you from the effects of a black hole as well as prevent you from getting near it.
Even if your ship were to graze the event horizon of a black hole in hyperspace, the physics of a black hole would never have the chance to affect your ship.
Unless for some reasone the ship ai decides to plot a hyper jump directly through the center of a black hole (which would probably cause the black hole to explode from the sheer energy of the impact) there is virtually nothing a black hole can do to your ship and thats with considering real world physics.
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I've been wanting more dangerous black holes for ages, give them variety such as accretion disks which would be dangerous to pass through, jets which would be too energetic to use as FSD boost and destroy you instead. There is much more to improve, but FD isn't listening..
I've been wanting more dangerous black holes for ages, give them variety such as accretion disks which would be dangerous to pass through, jets which would be too energetic to use as FSD boost and destroy you instead. There is much more to improve, but FD isn't listening..
What? Black holes won't kill you, they just tp you to other dimension.
where did you get that idea?
where did you get that idea?
If FDev implement another galaxy, then there may be a use for Black Holes as gateways. Big IF.
'Realistic' physics near a black hole would, I suspect, require some form of time dilation. I can't see any games developer enforcing that.
'Realistic' physics near a black hole would, I suspect, require some form of time dilation. I can't see any games developer enforcing that.
That's up to FDEV, I can imagine accretion disks on exit to black hole, whatever they want that is consistent with current physics and what we know about black holes, inventing entirely new physics just to make black holes more dangerous isn't necessary or desirable.
The amount of time dilation near a black hole, indeed in the gravity well of any celestial body that wouldn't instantly kill you is really negligible, the difference in the actual universe is measurable in fractions of nanoseconds for objects at different heights on the earth itself, so it's already an effect in real physics that we don't account for in game, it would be one of the dangers of getting to close to a black hole, if time dilation reached such extremes that it was noticable to other players it's likely you would already be dead in game, so we don't really need to worry to much about that aspect of gravity.
In other words, you have no ideas.
And do what with them (other than look pretty)?
So what do you suggest? They’re pretty boring right now.
Did you also object when Neutron stars and White Dwarfs were made dangerous?
Make mining sites? Possibly with new materials or high concentrations of rare materials.
Other than Hawkin radiation only one thing can escape the event horizon,the ships in ED. So we could take advantage of this,as long as the black hole is large enough the tidal forces wouldn’t stretch you out even past the event horizon,gather data and then engage our ftl drive to escape.
Don't knock making them pretty. But with the accretion disk also comes gamma jets.
I'd be OK with this as long as mining there is suitably dangerous. Mining next to a Black Hole should require experience, skill, and a casual disregard for danger.
By this, I mean, disorientation caused by accelerating to near light-speed as the accretion disc spins around the black hole's gravity well, high temperatures requiring careful system management (or lots of heat sinks), potential new/unique phenomena found only around Black Holes.
For those who insist on a strict adherence to scientific verisimilitude, I also propose an option that allows them to experience real-time time dilation effects, whereby the closer they get to the black hole the more time dilates, and they would be unable to login to the game for several years.
I am sure we can all agree this would be worthwhile option in order to ensure the game follows the existing laws of physics.
Our FSD already provides "travel at faster than light" - which ought to result in some form of time transformation. Yet it doesn't. For gameplay reasons.
So would it also be if any Black Hole gameplay were ever to be introduced. Time dilation would be ignored for gameplay reasons. (Single galaxy state = single galaxy time)
Just a reminder, our ships dont have ai, its illegal.
As black holes should be. It's just a big gravity well, and our ship's computers know very well how to deal with gravity wells.
An accretion disk could, potentially, be about as hazardous as an asteroid ring around some other celestial body.
The biggest hazard around black holes would be radiation given off by matter being pulled in, but even that our ships are well designed to handle.
White dwarves and neutrons are only 'dangerous' because we (and I say we in the general sense, I personally have never used either to supercharge my FSD) are doing things that no sane pilot would do to their ships.
And, personally, if it was me, if you died to a black hole it would entail an account wipe, because no one could possibly rescue your remlock from a black hole without sacrificing themselves in the process. (Personally, dying in the deep black would also cause an account wipe, or at least a cmdr lockout until someone 'rescued' you). But then I can be brutal on occasion.
They have ai, its just not sentient
Honestly a weird thing to poke at regardless
The more mass added to black hole the lower its density becomes. Planet sized black hole would shred you before you got near but a galactic core monster you could fly some way into without the gravity causing serious problems (possibly 
) Like coop did. M87 is supposed to be alot less dense than water.
bigthink.com
) Like coop did. M87 is supposed to be alot less dense than water.
Our universe resides in the center of a black hole, this theory claims
Wormholes might very well be a key feature to our cosmos.
bigthink.com
This article and your statements are riddled with so many flaws it makes my head spinThe more mass added to black hole the lower its density becomes. Planet sized black hole would shred you before you got near but a galactic core monster you could fly some way into without the gravity causing serious problems (possibly
Our universe resides in the center of a black hole, this theory claims
Wormholes might very well be a key feature to our cosmos.
The first thing you learn about a black hole is that they are created from collapsed stars meaning their density goes up as mass goes up, not down.
I have no clue where you pulled black holes loosing density with increased mass from.
Secondly black holes are just super dense stars that warp and absorb light.
Black holes are more closely related to neutron stars than anything else.
There is zero evidence that supports black holes are wormholes especially since there are no white holes in our universe.
On top of that black holes only affect up to 4 spatial dimensions and a stable wormhole would need 5 or more spatial dimensions to be stable.
Not only that but wormholes would be mostly massless due to their nature which black holes have signifigant mass.
Not withstanding that the universe is incapable of producing natural wormholes because every astronomical body only affects up to the 4th spatial dimension including black holes.
For any wormhole to exist in our universe, it would have to be artificial.
Well the internet must be wrong then. You think i got this stuff at school? I read it online. You should read more too
Also it "feels right" i beleive without understanding that we are probably inside a black hole and it is entirely possible they all contain if not a universe than a universe seed. Universes within universes within unverses. Read about torsion and planck objects that twist until they have nowhere else to go and then explode. Big bang. New universe.
Edit: Read the very first reply at the bottom of the article i linked.
Edit: Azmuth Divarchchron Incase your interested.
phys.org
Also it "feels right" i beleive without understanding that we are probably inside a black hole and it is entirely possible they all contain if not a universe than a universe seed. Universes within universes within unverses. Read about torsion and planck objects that twist until they have nowhere else to go and then explode. Big bang. New universe.
Edit: Read the very first reply at the bottom of the article i linked.
Edit: Azmuth Divarchchron Incase your interested.
Every black hole contains a new universe: A physicist presents a solution to present-day cosmic mysteries
Our universe may exist inside a black hole. This may sound strange, but it could actually be the best explanation of how the universe began, and what we observe today. It's a theory that has been explored over the past few decades by a small group of physicists including myself.
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