[Video] Open letter from community to Elite Dangerous

Not to mention PS4 players unable to even connect to the server and clipper ship kit purchasers unable to use their fsd and players paying RL money for arx that they don't recieve. Nah it's fine. It's just bugs, they're to be expected. Also, it's just a game bro. Y so mad bro?
It looks like they are pretty busy fixing all these issues. Sure, it would be better if these issues never made it into the game in the first place. It would also be better if my wife wouldn't like Vegemite. She tastes like death.
 
Who the hell is going to buy those ridiculously expensive cosmetics (beyond the first experimental one) without the dripfeed of news?

I bought one the asp explorer ones because it was cheap and tried it. Wouldn't have thought about buying a second one if i didn't sign up to the community / management aspect of elite. Wouldn't have even gone to the forums or read one patch note.. its still just a game in your steam library without it.

I thought that was the whole point. Maybe not? Too hard? :)
 
But it's all still just a game.

I dont know if you work or if you do if you have direct contact with the customers.
Consider what would happen if you and your company would fail as bad as fdev is and had to keep an open shop.
Its "only a game" for some its their living and if they fail at that maybe they will have problems.
Saying everything is ok and pretend its all allright will not help them in anyway, they need to wake up.

Lots of other games like elite out there.
 
This is borderline trolling. Yes, I've seen a few of these people come and go, but most people who are frustrated with the game only want to see their frustrations addressed and fixed. They get no joy from their current misery, rather they want to be happy with the game. I wanted to be happy with shadows, and now I am! But I still feel empathy for those who suffer from very bad shadows (and now screen tearing) on the consoles.

That's your problem - you lack empathy.
Come on, half the people complaining in this thread turned out to want BGS / PP Open only. That's why they are so frustrated. If their happiness with the game results in my happiness being compromised I am pretty damn well entitled to disagree with them. Without being called a paid shill.
The rest wants more open roadmaps years in advance but only if these roadmaps never change. That's probably just as ridiculous.

In the meantime, nobody is against bug fixing.

PS
And yes, I am ignoring the people who have goodwill but were tricked and manipulated into signing a petition they don't even agree with.
 
I dont know if you work or if you do if you have direct contact with the customers.
Consider what would happen if you and your company would fail as bad as fdev is and had to keep an open shop.
Its "only a game" for some its their living and if they fail at that maybe they will have problems.
Saying everything is ok and pretend its all allright will not help them in anyway, they need to wake up.
That sounds suspiciously like doom and gets pretty nonsensical as soon as you realise that some people demand that Frontier staff gets fired.

Lots of other games like elite out there.
Not a single one, otherwise I would be playing them.
 
Oh, is this nonsense still rumbling on? I was mildly amused to see otherwise sensible people getting in bed with a bunch of griefers and trolls for the sake of having a pop at FD, but there's nowt so queer as folk.
 

sollisb

Banned
We discussed this extensive on Lave Radio on Tuesday, we even covered a lot of the issues before the petition came out in the previous episode.

We've decided that's up to each individual crew member to sign it if they want. Personally, I do agree with a lot of the points made, especially regarding communication regarding organising interviews etc and so on. There is a feeling that the game is being cut back (Galnet news reduced, community goals reduced and quite a while since the last Interstellar Initiative) that's adding to the general negative attitude a the moment.

I feel that the biggest issue is the long term bugs; the kind which locks off certain types of gameplay, like when fighting thargoids for example, which is causing the main concern. Yes, we knew that the updates coming we're going to be small, but there was hope that bug fixes would continue at the pace they'd been at in Beyond.

However, dispite the preamble, the petition does come across as far too aggressive and could even be considered threatening. As Shan pointed out, some players tried the same thing with Arena Net (and I've seen it with SOE as well) and Arena Net just shut down all communication apart from release notes and patches. I'm concerned that the same will happen now with frontier. Remember that everything went a lot quieter after all the salt over 2.3.

I personally won't sign the petition mostly because of the concerns I have with the security of that perticular website but I do agree with most of the points in the petition.

Most of the communication here can be broken into a few categories;

1) Boilerplate responses to problems encountered.
2) Patch Notes
3) Discussion Topics which are usually ignored after being posted.
4) Marketting fluff and vapour ware.

At this stage I'd be amazed if someone from the company came on and actually replied to anything with valid substance.
 
We discussed this extensive on Lave Radio on Tuesday, we even covered a lot of the issues before the petition came out in the previous episode.

We've decided that's up to each individual crew member to sign it if they want. Personally, I do agree with a lot of the points made, especially regarding communication regarding organising interviews etc and so on. There is a feeling that the game is being cut back (Galnet news reduced, community goals reduced and quite a while since the last Interstellar Initiative) that's adding to the general negative attitude a the moment.

I feel that the biggest issue is the long term bugs; the kind which locks off certain types of gameplay, like when fighting thargoids for example, which is causing the main concern. Yes, we knew that the updates coming we're going to be small, but there was hope that bug fixes would continue at the pace they'd been at in Beyond.

However, dispite the preamble, the petition does come across as far too aggressive and could even be considered threatening. As Shan pointed out, some players tried the same thing with Arena Net (and I've seen it with SOE as well) and Arena Net just shut down all communication apart from release notes and patches. I'm concerned that the same will happen now with frontier. Remember that everything went a lot quieter after all the salt over 2.3.

I personally won't sign the petition mostly because of the concerns I have with the security of that perticular website but I do agree with most of the points in the petition.

I'd suggest the language they used as demanding rather than threatening or aggressive.

Great podcast btw.
 
Considering the 1000's of unpaid hours I've put into this game, producing software which thoundands of people use to enhance their gameplay, I only wish Frontier would have paid me. Unfortunately, they dont!
Considering the 1000's of unpaid hours I've put into this forum, hammering some sense and perspective into it, I only wish you would have paid me. Unfortunately, you don't!
:D
 
I dont know if you work or if you do if you have direct contact with the customers.
Consider what would happen if you and your company would fail as bad as fdev is and had to keep an open shop.
Its "only a game" for some its their living and if they fail at that maybe they will have problems.
Saying everything is ok and pretend its all allright will not help them in anyway, they need to wake up.

Lots of other games like elite out there.

Off you pop then, toodle-oo.
 
I dont know if you work or if you do if you have direct contact with the customers.
Consider what would happen if you and your company would fail as bad as fdev is and had to keep an open shop.
Its "only a game" for some its their living and if they fail at that maybe they will have problems.
Saying everything is ok and pretend its all allright will not help them in anyway, they need to wake up.

Lots of other games like elite out there.
If colleagues in my workplace failed, people would die.
Sometimes they do fail, because they're human, because they're stressed, overworked, underpaid, underresourced. And sometimes people die as a consequence.
My job is to find out what's going wrong, what's going right, and improve the care that we offer. So that fewer people die.

So yes, I do have a concept of it only being a game. I have some sense of proportion. Nobody is going to suffer any kind of harm because there's a bug which restricts a game for a brief period.

Perspective is a very valuable thing to have. You're playing a game that doesn't work perfectly. The devs (who you don't know, and whose work you don't really understand) are trying to do their job, probably also stressed and overworked, and tiny errors get into the vast mass of code. The company continues to report healthy profits regardless. Life goes on.

You can choose to play the game, or do something else. Nobody is going to die.

It's just a game.
 
If colleagues in my workplace failed, people would die.
Sometimes they do fail, because they're human, because they're stressed, overworked, underpaid, underresourced. And sometimes people die as a consequence.
My job is to find out what's going wrong, what's going right, and improve the care that we offer. So that fewer people die.

So yes, I do have a concept of it only being a game. I have some sense of proportion. Nobody is going to suffer any kind of harm because there's a bug which restricts a game for a brief period.

Perspective is a very valuable thing to have. You're playing a game that doesn't work perfectly. The devs (who you don't know, and whose work you don't really understand) are trying to do their job, probably also stressed and overworked, and tiny errors get into the vast mass of code. The company continues to report healthy profits regardless. Life goes on.

You can choose to play the game, or do something else. Nobody is going to die.

It's just a game.
I'm wasting time on this forum, and watching the rugby, and watching the cricket (that's just finished), in order to distract myself, to forget for a moment that this afternoon I have to go a funeral. Not something to do with work, a funeral for someone close to me. Someone who received the best possible care, someone for whom my equivalents in the local NHS Trust did everything they could. Someone who had a horrible degenerative disease and, in the end, just stopped breathing.

And tomorrow, I get on a train, I go back to my normal life of reading reports about people I don't know, who also just stopped breathing, and I try and see if the 9% of them who we could help might be raised to 9.1%.

Elite is just a game.

It doesn't matter in any way whatsoever.
 

sollisb

Banned
Perspective is a very valuable thing to have. You're playing a game that doesn't work perfectly. The devs (who you don't know, and whose work you don't really understand) are trying to do their job, probably also stressed and overworked, and tiny errors get into the vast mass of code.

I bought a game not their problems/incompetencies.
 
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