Actual GBP/USD -> ARX Cost Pricing of Items, and Conversion Tables
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About 3 ganks per hourBut what's the monetary value of your play time?
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Considering that people pay to play games like Elite Dangerous, then the value of your play time is negative; we would pay Frontier to allow us to play, maybe not much, maybe only pennies a week, but we would pay.But what's the monetary value of your play time?
Let's say you would pay one penny per hour to play Elite Dangerous, then each hour that you play makes your life one penny richer, because you didn't have to spend it. You received one penny of value for nothing.
You can make 20 Arx per hour, and you would pay £0.01 per hour. Those Arx cost you -£0.01, but they will buy about £0.01 in cosmetics. You are making a profit of two pence per hour.
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I'm not saying you haven't read it somewhere but no, it's got nothing to do with consoles. We've had Frontier Points for a year or two now.
We'll sure if you want to buy more than one thing you can create some sort of reasoning that you got more than in the past.
Frontier still are still ending up with more money irrespective of perceived value. Makes sense that frontier are growing as a company and trying different things.
There's probably no point in saying more, because trouble with legacy people goes away at some point, and all frontiers new customers are only going to know one system so there's no instance of being manipulated. That's how the rest of corporate society works.
The only remote chance impact is if older players form a larger part of the customers and dont like it etc, but its unrealistic to undo the quite significant work they did making the in game store. If only even headline features (thinking passenger missions) got that much new user interface and design.
OP's spreadsheet notes the items that became more expensive, and ignores the items that became cheaper.
Interesting how more items actually became cheaper. Especially so when you consider all the complaining.
Interesting how more items actually became cheaper. Especially so when you consider all the complaining.
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I believe this argument is relevant if you ignore the option to earn Arx ingame AND assume that people only want to buy one paintjob. By the way, if Frontier ends up with more money using the new system that's probably because people decided to spend more money.
It has everything to do with consoles and profit. Sony and Microsoft do not allow DLC/cosmetics/etc to be purchased directly with money. It has to be a fake currency. That's the reason FDev went with the fake currency on PC. More money.
To cite your example and to use the somewhat spurious claims we see flying around here...
We have apparently 3 million players... (laughs loudly up sleeve, more like 30k) Anyways...
If 1/3 of them were buying Arx and leaving Frontier sit on £2.89 equates to £2.8m.
And the fact still remains, that there are no terms and conditions applied to Arx.
Frontier are not interested in me or you. They are interested in the playerbase as a whole and the players within to buy the Arx. This is immediatly turns your cash to their cash and in return, they give you fake-money which they can pull any old time they like.
Wrong. Microsoft have reversed and are exiting out of the fake money and making it cash only.
It looks even better if you realise that the worst price for COVAS etc should not consider the 5000 Arx pack, because that doesn't buy enough Arx.
COVAS is £5.01 when bought with the £4.99 pack but that's £4.99 and 30 free Arx, so it's essentially cheaper. It's definitely cheaper with larger Arx packs, of course.
The ship kits are better priced than they were even with the £4.99 pack, and it needs a £9.59 pack to get enough Arx.
Similarly, the Alphabet bobblehead pack, which used to be £6, is £5.80 with the £4.99 pack and £5.55 with the £9.59 pack.
In fact the least money you can spend to get a ship kit is to buy a £2.99 pack and a £4.99 pack, totaling £7.98, which is cheaper than the original price for the large kit and leaves more than £1 worth of Arx in your account for the small kit, making that still cheaper than it was.
So the only products that have increased in price are the patterned paints and the engine /weapon colours.
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Yeah sure. What you said is absolutely right.
If you look at pack value, all paints that are priced over 1000 Arx are more expensive since a pack used to cost 300 FP - 6000 Arx after conversion - 3 GPB
that includes most (if not all) of the nicer paints like Horus, Galvanized, Salvage, Mechanicist, Operator, Predator etc
Tactical, Vibrant and Military were all toned down - i assume because no one was buying them anyways and it makes good PR (look ma', the paints are cheaper now), with the sole exception of Tactical Ice and Tactical Graphite that were most used and ... they simply vanished
edit: not including here the crazy special paints like crypsis or pulse/fusion
Noooooo one ever bought tactical or military, yeah, you're totally right on that one...
goes and deletes all his Inara ship pics
I do have Tactical Ice on a couple of ships, good
And i do have Vibrant on my Crusader - not many choices anyway and because Vibrant Yellow is the only one that looks ok-ish on the bug
That is the patterned paint (not my terminology).
People like me, who wouldn't pay £3 for a paint-job, are doing very well out of the unbundling, no matter how much the individual prices have increased. However the fact remains that Frontier shot themselves in the foot. In my, very business naive, opinion, they should have taken the hit and kept prices where they were. Maybe they could have given us less of a discount on the cheaper items. As it is, nobody is caring that a paint job is only 37p instead of 50p. If they'd made it 47p they would have the same gratitude. I assume nobody was buying the decals at 33p each so they dropped them to 10p -- a massive discount -- but there aren't any that I want and I appear to only be able to fit one, so I, at least, am still not buying them. Instead of giving us a nominal discount on everything, they increased the prices where they thought they could make a profit, and that's all anyone cares about, with good reason. It looks cynical and grasping and honestly I can't see any other interpretation.
The Tactical paints cost 620 Arx. When Tactical Ice and Tactical Graphite finally return to the shop, and they will, I expect them to cost more. I hope I am wrong.
It doesn't affect me so everything is fine
So it's ok that now with £5 you are getting 8820 Arx and with those you can get 3 maybe 4 "patterned" paints.
Let me remind you that one month ago i could pay £3 and receive 6 Salvage paints and fly my Ship with other color everyday and/or based on mission type
Red for passenger rescue, White for sightseeing, Black for BH and so on