Perfect, works for me.
Now when I can I put a black friday skin on my fleet carrier? Boxing Day?
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Now when I can I put a black friday skin on my fleet carrier? Boxing Day?
Strangely enough, the “mind numbing dreariness” of flying from one body to another and stopping to scan them, making a skill out of finding the optimum vantage point to scan each body in a GG sub-system, the wonder of seeing the target body grow until it filled the screen and revealed itself in all its glory like I was actually travelling there, and the satisfaction of arriving in a distant sub-system over 300kls away was a very large part of why I bought the game in the first place
No, I didn’t watch Netflix or read a book, or surf Facebook (I don’t even have an account there any longer). I just liked the peace and quiet and the sounds of the ship out in the black at last.
Clearly, I must have been mistaken in my enjoyment of such things.
Would it be alright to have some empathy for that point of view and allow that some sort of additional module that revealed the sysmap and gave a target list of “unknown” objects to fly to would be a nice thing to do, especially since it wouldn’t remove the ability to use the FSS as it is (and thereby avoid the “dreary pseudo spreadsheet”)?
Strangely enough, the “mind numbing dreariness” of flying from one body to another and stopping to scan them, making a skill out of finding the optimum vantage point to scan each body in a GG sub-system, the wonder of seeing the target body grow until it filled the screen and revealed itself in all its glory like I was actually travelling there, and the satisfaction of arriving in a distant sub-system over 300kls away was a very large part of why I bought the game in the first place
No, I didn’t watch Netflix or read a book, or surf Facebook (I don’t even have an account there any longer). I just liked the peace and quiet and the sounds of the ship out in the black at last.
Clearly, I must have been mistaken in my enjoyment of such things.
Would it be alright to have some empathy for that point of view and allow that some sort of additional module that revealed the sysmap and gave a target list of “unknown” objects to fly to would be a nice thing to do, especially since it wouldn’t remove the ability to use the FSS as it is (and thereby avoid the “dreary pseudo spreadsheet”)?
I think we like the same things, and I wouldn't mind having something in the UI that does not require me to enter the FSA to get information enough to decide whether to explore further or move on. I too like to travel through a solar system, even to a distance additional star to see something that caught my eye in the initial scan. That information I still don't get from the FSS (and hopefully never will). Exploration has been my main activity in the game, I hit Elite in Exploration in 2016 I think. Now exploration feels more involved and easy to tailor. It only lacks something in the cockpit view after the initial honk that is not a body counter but rather some sort of composition information. I used to hunt gas giants a lot, because a lot of the interesting stuff orbits them and they are pretty. I still might skip scanning all the moons in the FSA and just scan them when I get there instead.
The additional tool inserted before resorting to the FSA is not the ADS, however. It could be a whittled-down version of it (I hope not, it was dumb and clunky), or it could be a logical extension of the FSA.
SYou know very well that the December patch will be released in the last week before Chrimbo, just as the devs all go on holiday, and that it will be riddled with bugs that render the whole thing unusable in major areas until at least 3 patches have been applied somewhere towards the end of January
Oh, and your keybindings will have been deleted as well.
Beta will be Dec 2, Britney's birthday.You know very well that the December patch will be released in the last week before Chrimbo, just as the devs all go on holiday, and that it will be riddled with bugs that render the whole thing unusable in major areas until at least 3 patches have been applied somewhere towards the end of January
Oh, and your keybindings will have been deleted as well.
Never lost bindings yet, never finished them either
Is it horrible in VR? I've had no issues with it in VR, except that the blue blobs which are round out in flatland become ovals for some reason.
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EXCEPT for the one, most important, overriding ground, as stated by FDev: "It's not what we wanted."
Sorry if that's inconvenient for how you want to play, but it IS their game, their vision, their product. What they want comes first. What we want comes second. If what we want aligns with what they want, it is more likely to be implemented. If it's not, then it's less likely.
Not so sure about the quantity, but I will not argue against improvements to the system. There are a number of reasonable improvements that could be made - scroll back a few dozen pages, I made my own little "if it were up to me" post here in this thread.
Arguably? Ok, I'll argue. I feel the opposite is true. I would NEVER have made the trip I have been on since the 3.3 launch with the old systems. It was pure, concentrated, distilled crap, with absolutely nothing enjoyable about the tedium that required NetFlix to endure even a short trip to unlock Professor Palin. Now I've traveled nearly half-way around the galaxy's rim, and I'm still going. I would argue this has had a positive effect. Now, I'm not qualified to provide a NET effect, nor are you, as neither of us have any actual data as to what percentage of people find the new system an improvement vs. the number of people who do not - and you're not particularly interested in those who do, as this is contrary to your agenda.
Again, I will not argue that improvements and QoL enhancements are necessary, they certainly are, and it's a money-bet Frontier is more than aware of this and many other areas in need of improvements and enhancements. As to how they prioritize, that is not for you or I to decide. I get that we all want what we want, right now, screw anybody who wants something else, they mean nothing to us, only what we want matters.
Fortunately for all of us, Frontier knows a bit better than we do, and will prioritize what gets done and when. Let's see how this relates to Exploration. One QoL enhancement I would love to have would be the ability to collect samples and specimens - core samples, biological specimens, gas samples - and we have things like Planet Surfaces to take core samples. We have biological POI's and gas giants with various forms of life, as well as space-based life forms that could be collected. We have atmospheres to take gas samples. But we don't have the ability to enter an atmosphere yet. We have limpets that could potentially be used to collect samples as well - we use them on Thargoids already. To implement these kinds of systems and improvements, you should be able to see that there a number of other things that have to be done first. The priorities start defining themselves.
Vegetarian and Food only belong in the same sentence with a negative modifier, such as "That vegetarian dish is not food."
That's mean, now I'm hungry and lunch is still more than 2 hours away!
It didn't do me any favors either - I had to order a double of buffalo wings.
I don’t get why naysayers keep bringing up netflix as if I was inclined to watch Netflix while playing I’d likely be against that system.
It’s more listening to music which is completely different.
The only time I put voices on while playing games is when doing dailies in a traditional mmo (swtor). The only reason I put up with that is the huge dopamine triggers frequently throughout the experience and progression at the end of it. It’s starting to make less and less sense too why doing anything not for the experience (ie any sort of progression) has a point.. it’s harder to justify.
It’s more listening to music which is completely different.
The only time I put voices on while playing games is when doing dailies in a traditional mmo (swtor). The only reason I put up with that is the huge dopamine triggers frequently throughout the experience and progression at the end of it. It’s starting to make less and less sense too why doing anything not for the experience (ie any sort of progression) has a point.. it’s harder to justify.
My favourite meats are derived from vegetarian animals.
I concur.
If there not from the Anchor Bar at main and North, they're fake.
Baaaa ha ha ha ha ha.So what you're saying is you like the surprise of discovery just as much as everyone else but are too lazy to fly out the bodies to earn it.
Knew it. Closet god mode addict not about pretending at all!
One the most stupid things I have read on here.
Why do you write so much stupid rubbish.
So if you equate the system map filled up as exploring the whole system, you do it in a five second button push in the old ADS. So you want to explore the whole system by pushing a button for five seconds.
Is that what you are really saying.
Or do you equate getting some useless information, a first discovered by tag and some credits as exploring the whole system. If you do, you are far less of an explorer then I am.
Why the hell do you have to make it so unpleasant in the forums. Why go on the attack for no apparent reason, why make up stuff about what I want , why lie, I don't do that to you. It's people like you that make me want to not have your precious one hit wonder button back in the game.
I have now changed my mind. I do not want the ADS back as a separate module so I will actively compaign against it instead of staying neutral that I was before.
Hope you are happy now as that is obviously what you want.
Fdev please do not being back the ADS in any capacity as it's complete garbage.
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It doesn't make sense for the system to know where everything is, but when you enter the FSS it mysteriously forgets everything and you have to find it all over again.
Now it's beginning to make sense. You do dailys in a traditional mmo. Maybe that's your idea of good fun.
Personally I hate them. They are boring and cheap gameplay to produce.
It explains so much.
I know you're not interested in doing any favors for the ADS, but there's a simple fix for it. Just have the resolved world locations on the FSS instead of the blue blobs if you have an ADS module equipped after the honk, but don't discover more about them and tag them without targeting them and zooming in on the FSS, the same as it is now, or flying out to them.
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I've changed my mind. I don't want the ADS in the game at all and will be actively compaigning against it.
You can blame other pro ADS folks on the forums. Not your fault. You are one of the good-uns.
Just tired of the all the unnecessary attacks.
Okay i do have a response.
Has the thought occurred that its probably uncommon that people value the system map over what's in the 3d space in ship? We got accused of that a number of times during beta about playing the system map..
Yeah i don't think its in the nature of elite dangerous at all that priority should be given to the system map over real space. That's been another long running differentiator... i can only laugh at how silly it is, yet also admit there is no wrong way to play elite.
So do you look at the system map and drink it up as you click on more bodies? How does this work? Nothings different about any of the various classes except for numerical values and maybe the found elements if they are landable.. maybe...? Really?
We are not the same there i think.
Also playing the system map and moving on sounds like most ridiculous thing i've ever heard. You could this on a mobile phone truly. Whats the point?? Also let me know if you have a medical condition that prevents supercruise usage. The fss gives some people headaches so wouldn't say its impossible. Will be much more understanding.
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