Saying that and giving it any meaning are two different things.
The oft-repeated rationale for the ADS just breaks down to "it's faster to find the things I want", so the whole exploration loop is system jumping and a one-button mechanic.
Could or should Frontier enhance the FSS or add in and incorporate an optional ADS-like expansion module?
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The oft-repeated rationale for the ADS just breaks down to "it's faster to find the things I want", so the whole exploration loop is system jumping and a one-button mechanic.
I bet im not the only poster that feels that way about it tho. Anybody of the "i used to enjoy flying my ship" crowd knows what i mean.
IIRC the ADS functionality is the initial required honk for the FSS, right,
everything else was conducted by approaching the planets and DSSing.
You can still do that, except for directly having the full data on the body,
or do i remember the usage of the FSS wrong?
everything else was conducted by approaching the planets and DSSing.
You can still do that, except for directly having the full data on the body,
or do i remember the usage of the FSS wrong?
Afaik if you are the first ever person to land in a system you have to locate the planets via the FSS zoom. I dont want to say thats 100% true cause opinions differ and i have never actually tested it 
But yeah if you are out looking for interesting things to discover you are forced to reveal the system every single time.
But yeah if you are out looking for interesting things to discover you are forced to reveal the system every single time.
I suggest you reread his post. There is that slight bit at the bottom which is pretty vital. I have not said that or agree with it so no, everybody wouldn't be happy.
I'm travelling a bunch that clearly have not been visited since the ADS was a thing. A bunch of scanned planets, but most of the moons are ignored, and there's no mapped tags on anything.
That depends on what you call interesting.Afaik if you are the first ever person to land in a system you have to locate the planets via the FSS zoom. I dont want to say thats 100% true cause opinions differ and i have never actually tested it
That is not necessarily the case,
Palin requires a distance travelled of 2k LY from Sol,
so that'd add up to those
That is correct.Afaik if you are the first ever person to land in a system you have to locate the planets via the FSS zoom. I dont want to say thats 100% true cause opinions differ and i have never actually tested it
ADS functionality: Honk, reveals "unknown" planets in sysmap and navpanel, have to target them and fly to them individually to scan them and get first discovered tags, and until you have done so you have to guess what they are from a combination of their sysmap images, and the holograms displayed when they are selected.
FSS functionality: Honk, populates the FSS with blobs but does not reveal them in sysmap or navpanel. Have to individually scan each planet in the FSS to populate them, this additionally performs the function of tagging, as well as of surface scanning to reveal composition as was carried out by the old DSS, which predated the new DSS which is an entirely different module which differs in its functionality in that the new one reveals PoIs (which used to have to be eyeballed) and gives first mapped tags.
Once you were good at that it was easy to forget how it worked. When first starting out the picture and the sound had to be studied carefully but after a while it really was at a glance.
I'm 30,000ly from Sol, atm...That is not necessarily the case,
Palin requires a distance travelled of 2k LY from Sol,
so that'd add up to those
(Edit - I tell a lie, I've made more of the way around my circuit than I thought, and am only 20,000ly from Sol ATM, since I'm on the side of Colonia closer to Sol now)
But yeah, all the nebulae in the Colonia region still have plenty unexplored, untagged moons that were just not considered worth bothering looking at back in the ADS days, and I've not seen a single mapped tag in this entire trip through the last half a dozen nebulae I've been through in an extended circle around colonia, around 40 or so jumps out from the main hub of populated systems.
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I'm sure if the ADS came back you'd be happier if it was an optional rather than a feature of the FSS.
I would be happier if it never came back at all.
This thread is about whether to bring back the ADS or improve the FSS. I vote to improve the FSS.
I know, it doesn't negate what've said.
My problem with the FSS is the initial honk doesn't provide enough information to make any meaningful decisions. You pretty much must do the FSS dance to tell whether a system is interesting to explore or not.
However, I do not want the ADS back. It was a one click wonder, far too powerful, and it made exploration un-interactive and dull.
Xloubell has already said how I'd like to see the FSS improved upon:
I'd modify his statement in that I'd like the Honk to not reveal everything, but only reveal the Orrery Map and provide the nav list page in the left cockpit screen while NOT providing planet textures. Textures would only show if you used the FSS to get them or if planets had been already discovered by a previous explorer. Basically the honk reveals the system structure but you'd need the FSS to get any body details and data.
This one change would provide explorers with much more immediate info from which to make the decision on whether to stay and FSS or move on. Plus it could allow pilots to fly out to specific bodies without needing to FSS the entire system. For example, it would be very handy for explorers hunting planets very closely orbiting stars or gas giants, or for explorers only interested in binary planets.
Frontier just put too much emphasis on the FSS as a mechanic, they swung too far away from the ADS. The ideal exploration mechanic would be more of a compromise between the two, in my opinion.
However, I do not want the ADS back. It was a one click wonder, far too powerful, and it made exploration un-interactive and dull.
Xloubell has already said how I'd like to see the FSS improved upon:
I'd modify his statement in that I'd like the Honk to not reveal everything, but only reveal the Orrery Map and provide the nav list page in the left cockpit screen while NOT providing planet textures. Textures would only show if you used the FSS to get them or if planets had been already discovered by a previous explorer. Basically the honk reveals the system structure but you'd need the FSS to get any body details and data.
This one change would provide explorers with much more immediate info from which to make the decision on whether to stay and FSS or move on. Plus it could allow pilots to fly out to specific bodies without needing to FSS the entire system. For example, it would be very handy for explorers hunting planets very closely orbiting stars or gas giants, or for explorers only interested in binary planets.
Frontier just put too much emphasis on the FSS as a mechanic, they swung too far away from the ADS. The ideal exploration mechanic would be more of a compromise between the two, in my opinion.
What you said was irrelevant.
Nope, reread the post.
Of to ignore list you go.
In unexplored space, the new honk doesn’t give you anything targettable in the map or nav panel until after you’ve scanned it with the FSS.
The only way to discover a body without the FSS would be with the MkI Eyeball.
If the initial FSS honk would create the contacts,
would be both parties pleased?
I wouldn't mind personally.