Engineers Pharmaceutical Isolator's Bugged and a total waste of time

Like others here I don't actually look for HG signals because they are like hens teeth - its depressing wasting time looking for them.

High ranking NPCs like pirate lords drop them (along with other G5 mats) along with loads of G4 materials you can trade up (or down). Pirate lord kill missions stacked are great for this, and you get paid along with it.
 
HGE signals are actually easy to find, just go to any system with billions of population. The difficult thing is getting all those ducks for faction, state, population to line up.
 
IMHO you mostly get the Military HGE mats from any faction in a state of war or civil war. certainly worked for me.
Fly safe

Understood. I've recently spent a significant amount of time in just such a system (state of war) ranking with a few of the factions in the hopes of getting better mission rewards and I have yet to see a single HGE site in all my trips into the system. Sigh...

Persistence. Find another. They will come.
 
Understood. I've recently spent a significant amount of time in just such a system (state of war) ranking with a few of the factions in the hopes of getting better mission rewards and I have yet to see a single HGE site in all my trips into the system. Sigh...
I am sure you probably do this but just in case:
Use EDDB systems search: select War or Civil War in the Faction State box, put your current system in the Reference System box, make sure Only Populated Systems is "Yes" and hit Search. Pick out the nearest high populated system from the search, fly to drop in and scan the Nav Beacon. Pop back into supercruise and in your left nav panel "Filters" deselect all but Signal Sources. You should now see any HGE's if they are there, often (pain in the buttocks) a long way out. Select the HGE and check the timer to see if you have enough time.
I just followed my own instructions and found 5 Military Grade Alloys straight off..
 
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My main source for mats is whatever interdicting NPC pirates drop while I'm running missions. I do have plenty of pharmaceutical isolators, as they get dropped by deadly or elite Anacondas rather frequently. I currently have 52 in stock, and am pretty sure that I traded some away before.

Please don't mistake that as an "in your face" or "git gud" statement. I'm just saying that there are ways to get pharmaceutical isolators, even though they may not work for every CMDR. Also, I cannot comment on whether the mats distribution works as intended, or if it's flawed.

I would agree, though, that as long as you scoop up everything you find and use material traders to get what you don't find, you shouldn't face insurmountable obstacles. It's not like you need dozens of pharmaceutical isolators when engineering your ship.
Not everyone is setup for deadly/elite Anaconda.
Just saying.
 
Not everyone is setup for deadly/elite Anaconda.
Just saying.
That's why I wrote: "Please don't mistake that as an "in your face" or "git gud" statement. I'm just saying that there are ways to get pharmaceutical isolators, even though they may not work for every CMDR."

Here's a community spirit idea. I don't know if it works, though, as I never flew in a wing. Maybe others can comment on this.

If a CMDR looking for PIs would join me as a wingman, can I still accept solo missions and have the wingman tag along? So that I could take care of the interdicting Anacondas, and leave the remains for my wingman to scoop up?

If that would work and isn't regarded as cheating, I'd be more than happy to offer my assistance. I'm currently based in Codorain (in-game) and my time zone's CET/UTC+1 in real life.

In between this and my earlier post, I found 3 more stacks of PIs, that I meanwhile traded for other mats. All my mat storages are ~50% full, so I stopped scooping up everything anyway.
 
Anyone is welcome to pick up the remains of my arx bounty hunts. It's not like I can max out my mats any more than they already are. Only prob is it's more efficient to kill loads of small ships for arx than condas. 😛
 
Military - War/Civil War HGEs - I was doing PP and found a LOT in Fed Control systems, dunno if it was connected to PP at all but certainly not seen them in the same ratio before at all. thought the RNG had been adjusted a while ago and this was the result but reading above, maybe not.

PIs - Do they drop from Deadly Condas, I heard only Elite ones? Have killed tons of Deadly but few Elite and no PIs at all, ever, in a HGE or from a ship, not once. Every sing le one I have has been traded at 1/6

ICs - the same all traded at 1-6

I have come to the conclusion that these are supposed to be almost impossible to find, presumably to stop everyone just having G5 engines easily and OP noobs or something, I have no idea.

Can route the map through system states but usually have to include Boom to get a route. Imp Shielding is common in Imp space HGEs, and usually get 4-6 of them at once, this one I can easily rely on to trade but hate trading at 1-6, if thats the point of the Mat Traders then thats a huge FAIL. Mat Traders are supposed to be there for trading down, so you can get HGE and trade down for the lower stuff, reducing the grind, not to increase the grind by finding 600 other HGE and trading for the 100 you need to outfit 11 ships. (whether all at once or over several months it still takes the same 'grind time' to find 600 overall). Because this isnt 'playing the game' and finding stuff as you go, it becomes a goal in itself just to get that one mat you need.

I'm still pinning my hopes on Elite Condas but if its 1 PI for 15 Condas then I need to kill roughly 45 Condas to get a chance at one G5 engine. Thats not immersive gameplay for me and its not 'playing the game'. Its stacking the same mission over and over to get one specific mat. Maybe I want to do some trading or mining instead, do I get denied G5 engines because I dont want to kill Elite Condas all day? Is that really the intention?

No its not cheating to wing up and let someone else do the kill. No I dont want to do that, I want to do it myself. I often jump into multi crew and someone elses fighter, they get all the mats and I'm glad I can help, but thats not charity thats teamwork and its not to get a specific mat, its to do something else and the mats are a bonus..

The point is, I as an individual player, in any mode, in any style of gaming not just combat, should be able to find PIs & ICs as I play the game surely? If not tell me in game that they are only available to combat pilots.
 
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Anyone is welcome to pick up the remains of my arx bounty hunts..........

I thought that materials were magical items. I was sure that the kills only dropped materials if you actually killed the ship, if someone else kills the ship then any mats dropped are invisible to you - no doubt by witchcraft. I don't do the combat thing very often but I was sure that was the situation, sorry if I have got it wrong.
 
If an NPC kills the ship you get no mats. If a player does then they are available and visible to all players afaik, that's my experience anyway but have usually hit the ship at least once during combat so maybe that counts as me 'tagging' it and so I can see the mats too. As in in a wing you all get the bounty if you hit the ship at least once. Or maybe I'm just not paying attention to individual drops and just looking at the list in the contacts panel.

Ive certainly killed ships in fighter and other player gets the mats but again they have hit it at least once coz I bring them closer so the mats are in one place.
 
... then they are available and visible to all players afaik, that's my experience anyway but have usually hit the ship at least once during combat so maybe that counts as me 'tagging' it and so I can see the mats too.
That would certainly make getting them much easier. In this case, I hope to be proven wrong :)
 
I thought that materials were magical items. I was sure that the kills only dropped materials if you actually killed the ship, if someone else kills the ship then any mats dropped are invisible to you - no doubt by witchcraft. I don't do the combat thing very often but I was sure that was the situation, sorry if I have got it wrong.
Well, I have heard enough stories about people trying to steal mats here to think it's possible, but I have never actually observed it myself.
 
I thought that materials were magical items. I was sure that the kills only dropped materials if you actually killed the ship, if someone else kills the ship then any mats dropped are invisible to you - no doubt by witchcraft. I don't do the combat thing very often but I was sure that was the situation, sorry if I have got it wrong.
Recently I have winged up at an anarchy nav beacon with a buddy who needed mats, and confirm that as long as we have both fired at the same target, when it blows the mats are available to both of us... in fact I I think some my buddy didnt hit were still visible and available to him because his limpets were cleaning them up.
 
I just followed my own instructions and found 5 Military Grade Alloys straight off..

I will try this again, no doubt about it. It's entirely possible that I've not been paying attention to the population as much as is necessary because this isn't the sole purpose of my travels. I'll try a little more concentration and a little less wide-eyed, there's-so'much-to-see behavior!

Cheers, CMDRs...
 
Look for Outbreak systems using the galaxy map. Third-party tools might be outdated, so best is to use the in-game map to filter what you want. I've been told government does not affect HGE spawn chances and that high population does help, but to be honest I've found no evidence of that. This impression of others might have been confirmation bias based on what people have been saying for a long time, as I'm not sure if someone actually gathered data for a statistical study.

I'm tanked on those but when or if I need more I can post here the system in which I find them.
Yes please, I've never found any either.
 
HGE signals are actually easy to find, just go to any system with billions of population. The difficult thing is getting all those ducks for faction, state, population to line up.
Please explain what faction needs to be? Or maybe I misread that and you mean't 'faction state' i.e. outbreak
Thanks!
 
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Faction matters for certain mats. You won't get Core Dynamics Composites from a Independent or Imperial Faction. They will also dilute the chance of you getting some mats by introducing more drop possibilities. If you want PIs ideally you want an Indy faction in Outbreak in a high pop system.
 
I quit wasting my time chasing certain HGE's ages ago. I go empire systems only and for imperial shielding only and trade across.
Even tho the trades are restrictive, 90 for 15 trading across, I farm 100 an hour so that beats farming for nothing for an hour
 
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