All at once? It could be messy, mind you.
(there's an hilarious GoT meme made from that flamethrower statement, a shame no one of you could get the meaning of it due to hard language barrier
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All at once? It could be messy, mind you.
(there's an hilarious GoT meme made from that flamethrower statement, a shame no one of you could get the meaning of it due to hard language barrier
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All at once? It could be messy, mind you.
(there's an hilarious GoT meme made from that flamethrower statement, a shame no one of you could get the meaning of it due to hard language barrier
It can't be any worse than what we have now
The Covid-19 organism might be collectively trying to begin diplomatic communication if we just are ready to listen.
1. The Covid-19 virus wants to make humans its host for eternity.
2. It wants to alter our DNA, making our babies Covid-19 hosts.
3. It want us to cease resisting its spread.
What will we answer?
If we cant eradicate our enemy, it will always come back to haunt us. We can't live like being hostage to this viral entity.
"Galaxy annexed. Earth surrender. Resistance is futile."
How do we tell the virus that we do not want it?
We can alter its RNA to become benign, a vaccine, making us immune to the dangerous version.
The viral entity only speak RNA.
Lets become fluent in RNA.
"We are fighting in the wrong perspective of a sharp angle."
1. The Covid-19 virus wants to make humans its host for eternity.
2. It wants to alter our DNA, making our babies Covid-19 hosts.
3. It want us to cease resisting its spread.
What will we answer?
If we cant eradicate our enemy, it will always come back to haunt us. We can't live like being hostage to this viral entity.
"Galaxy annexed. Earth surrender. Resistance is futile."
How do we tell the virus that we do not want it?
We can alter its RNA to become benign, a vaccine, making us immune to the dangerous version.
The viral entity only speak RNA.
Lets become fluent in RNA.
"We are fighting in the wrong perspective of a sharp angle."
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Some concerning thoughts. I hadn't been keeping up with US stats because I was under the assumption it was still very early days there. I just checked the numbers I posted earlier and added NYC:
Netherlands: Day 14, 247 infected & 10.5 deaths/ million.
Belgium: Day 20, 325 infected & 6.5 deaths /million (odd anomaly yesterday causing the low death rate, likely to be 'rectified' in the coming days)
New York City: day 9, 1660 infected & 12,6 deaths/ million.
While stats are not nearly as easily compared as it may seem, and all data has to be taken with a fair amount of salt, this is worrying.
Netherlands: Day 14, 247 infected & 10.5 deaths/ million.
Belgium: Day 20, 325 infected & 6.5 deaths /million (odd anomaly yesterday causing the low death rate, likely to be 'rectified' in the coming days)
New York City: day 9, 1660 infected & 12,6 deaths/ million.
While stats are not nearly as easily compared as it may seem, and all data has to be taken with a fair amount of salt, this is worrying.
With all the mental giants flouting isolation rules, holding coronavirus parties, taking medical advice from social media and panic buying, I wonder if on the other side of this there's gonna be someone taking a long hard look at the education systems of our various countries and thinking "Someone done fugged up!"
Yup.
I am not so convinced of that. This is not about education, it is about culture. While education is important in many ways, the concept that you as an individual have your share of responsibility for the group is not something that can be offloaded to the classrooms. There are various pockets of western society where this concept is already being taught: in the military for example the idea of 'try not to screw it up for yourself but definitely don't screw it up for your mates' seems fairly ingrained.
In our culture at large that message has not been sufficiently re-inforced. One of the things that we should have done ages ago is make it perfectly clear to everyone that a society is more than a collection of self-obsessed dingleberries. That suffering personal inconveniences for the greater good is something that will be expected from every single one of us at various points in our lives. That there is joy to be had in helping your fellow men and seeing them succeed, rather than endlessly comparing yourself with your neighbors in a desperate bid to have a bigger TV. And that competition is not the end-all be-all of civilization.
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Nice to see a bit of common sense. Relieve the congestion on the tubes especially since services have been reduced and they're packed in tightly. Was only thinking this morning that might be a useful temp measure.
From today, Monday 23 March, all road user charging schemes in London are temporarily suspended until further notice.
This move has been made to ensure London’s critical workers, particularly those in the NHS, are able to travel round London as easily as possible during this national emergency. It also supports the supply chain, the effort to keep supermarkets fully stocked and the city’s continued operation.
Got it on an update email from TFL (Transport for London)
From today, Monday 23 March, all road user charging schemes in London are temporarily suspended until further notice.
This move has been made to ensure London’s critical workers, particularly those in the NHS, are able to travel round London as easily as possible during this national emergency. It also supports the supply chain, the effort to keep supermarkets fully stocked and the city’s continued operation.
Got it on an update email from TFL (Transport for London)
I am really just a layman. I have no clue about virology, and understand vey little about chemistry, especially when it comes to cells . But, I really think it is important to acknowledge that even though the Genome was sequenced really quick, science was not at all comfortable to compare it to SARS ( CoV -1 ), or even just name it as such . .
This article in science ( Jan. 23, 2020 )
Scientists Scrutinize New Coronavirus Genome for Answers
Researchers are trying to figure out where it came from, whether it's evolving, and just how big a threat it will be.
www.the-scientist.com
points out
This is important ! I do not think it is appropriate to claim
( https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/the-safest-place.536855/post-8340252 ) when 2 months ago, science said there are these differences . I am thinking that small diferences in behaviour of a Virus vs another can make a HUGE difference in the math concerning projecting of the outbreak/epidemic .
I have not found a source yet that tells me when the Genome was first sequenced fully, but we know that the chinese Auhorities shared the full sequence of the Genome over the weekend of January 11/12 .
In Europe, the Pasteur Institute were the first to sequence the genome, on Jan .29th .
Whole genome of novel coronavirus, 2019-nCoV, sequenced
The Institut Pasteur has sequenced the whole genome of the coronavirus known as '2019-nCoV', becoming the first institution in Europe to sequence the virus since the start of the outbreak.
www.sciencedaily.com
In the beginning, the Virus was named 2019 - nCoV ( novel Coronavirus ) . Only somewhen early February, the name SARS - CoV - 2 and CoViD -19 for the respiratory disease it causes were adopted .
So imho, no, you can not say that
a) SARS - CoV -2 = SARS ( CoV -1 );
b) Science knew exactly how this things works ( the Virus just as well as the pandemic ) from the outset .
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Some concerning thoughts. I hadn't been keeping up with US stats because I was under the assumption it was still very early days there. I just checked the numbers I posted earlier and added NYC:
Netherlands: Day 14, 247 infected & 10.5 deaths/ million.
Belgium: Day 20, 325 infected & 6.5 deaths /million (odd anomaly yesterday causing the low death rate, likely to be 'rectified' in the coming days)
New York City: day 9, 1660 infected & 12,6 deaths/ million.
While stats are not nearly as easily compared as it may seem, and all data has to be taken with a fair amount of salt, this is worrying.
Anomaly in Belgium probably for the same reason as the little dent in germany's curve over the weekend ( reporting ) . Just as you said for Belgium, rki says it will become clearer midweek for Germany.
And yeah, New York is worrying ( as is London ) . Remember how I posted a few times in here that I am simply WORRIED about the US, like, 10 days ago ? And amongst others got a repsonse along the lines of "Do not worry for us Dude, we are going to be fine."
Nope....you will not be fine . 2 weeks ago, UK and USA became the prime candidades on my List of countries who are likely to simply implode . Even just starting to think through the possible consequences and ramifiactions started sending very, very huge quantities of fear into my mind...which took a few days to deal with .
Luckily, there is this :
"I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain."
It works .
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This is a summary of Data Points related to the HIV Inserts and "unusual finds" when it comes to COVID19 :
www.zerohedge.com
The Article is a little old but dives deep into the "abnormal" genetic structure multiple scientists who were familiar with other Corona Viruses had discovered at that point.
ZeroHedge
ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
www.zerohedge.com
The Article is a little old but dives deep into the "abnormal" genetic structure multiple scientists who were familiar with other Corona Viruses had discovered at that point.
Interesting to note that the numbers skyrocket around the world whereas the birthplace of the virus it was over with relative ease and small numbers compared everyone else.This is a summary of Data Points related to the HIV Inserts and "unusual finds" when it comes to COVID19 :
ZeroHedge
ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
The Article is a little old but dives deep into the "abnormal" genetic structure multiple scientists who were familiar with other Corona Viruses had discovered at that point.
Why all the McDonald's adverts on TV. I'm very confused.
As we know though, to put it politely the country of origin can be very frugal with the truth, particularly in situations where it makes them look bad.
Wouldnt be surprised to find out years down the line it hit China a lot worse than they're saying.
Well, if you said to the public C-19 "shared similarities to HIV in structure" you'd have almost universal compliance with social distancing. No more "its just flu".
This is a summary of Data Points related to the HIV Inserts and "unusual finds" when it comes to COVID19 :
ZeroHedge
ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
The Article is a little old but dives deep into the "abnormal" genetic structure multiple scientists who were familiar with other Corona Viruses had discovered at that point.
Scientists researching bioweapons is not unheard off.
And SARS-COV-2 looks suspiciously enough like an improved SARS-COV-1 version
I've considered that, too, but something about this reasoning is bothering me and it's hard to put my finger on it. Take economic output and recovery in Wuhan, for instance. They're already building back up, as opposed to continuing down the drain. Sure, they could be burning people in mass incinerators and lying about it, but surely there would be signs of such extreme activity?
China is extremely population dense, 1.6 billion or so, and before the quarantine was announced in Wuhan hundreds of thousands of people (some reports implies a million or more) fled the province to disperse to the literal four corners of the map. Their problems shouldn't be winding down, they should just now be reaching catastrophic proportions, and this can't just be explained away by better testing and social distancing. Can't prove anything of course, but my gut is screaming at me that this just doesn't add up on numerous levels.
Really guys? This again?
www.statnews.com
This paper was almost immediately retracted (note: it was not even published, it was a draft that was retracted) as it was horsecrap and everyone in the field was pointing it out the second it hit the news. I cannot spell it out any simpler than that. And for the future:
This is the kind of low-grade click-bait fear mongering that should be reserved for facebook and such social media where panicked aunts and uncles share the latest nonsense. We really don't need to spread conspiracy theories based on terrible 'science' that was never published and immediately debunked over a month ago.
Quick retraction of a faulty coronavirus paper was a good moment for science
The flawed #coronavirus paper was withdrawn before a single news outlet with any reach covered it, but not fast enough for critics of preprint servers, which publish studies without peer review.
www.statnews.com
This paper was almost immediately retracted (note: it was not even published, it was a draft that was retracted) as it was horsecrap and everyone in the field was pointing it out the second it hit the news. I cannot spell it out any simpler than that. And for the future:
(emphasis not mine)
This is the kind of low-grade click-bait fear mongering that should be reserved for facebook and such social media where panicked aunts and uncles share the latest nonsense. We really don't need to spread conspiracy theories based on terrible 'science' that was never published and immediately debunked over a month ago.
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@Ian--To which I would respond: scientists around the world are scratching their heads with no idea what this thing is, how it behaves or what to treat it with, and meanwhile it spreads across the globe with a rapidity and communicability that we've never experienced, leaving the best brains in the world with nothing to say but "Um...bats?" while the world burns down around them (but apparently not in China where they've done nothing but lie, cover up, propagandize and refuse to let third parties in to investigate). Sure, go ahead and throw your hands up and roll your eyes at just how profoundly and utterly stupid the rest of us are for (logically) pointing out that this doesn't add up. I just find comfort in the fact that apparently you have all the answers.
Why all the McDonald's adverts on TV. I'm very confused.
In my country McDonald's have home delivery.
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