They are only wearing those caps because their hairdos are a mess. Normally they'd let their free flags fly!I don’t get it? Non of those guys need a hair cut,
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The last time the WHO was snubbed by a certain member state, that state failed to make proper PCR SARS Cov 2 kits, instead of just buying them from WHO.
And now that state is racking up 2500 deaths a day, and is slowly taking over the global share of infection with over 1/4 total known cases.
Karma follows bad decisions. Or, at least perfectly predictable consequences do.
Now, confronted with the evidence of their own folly, they want to pull out, to blame the WHO.
It is too late to pull out, , isn't it?
The last time the WHO was snubbed by a certain member state, that state failed to make proper PCR SARS Cov 2 kits, instead of just buying them from WHO.
And now that state is racking up 2500 deaths a day, and is slowly taking over the global share of infection with over 1/4 total known cases.
Karma follows bad decisions. Or, at least perfectly predictable consequences do.
Now, confronted with the evidence of their own folly, they want to pull out, to blame the WHO.
It is too late to pull out, , isn't it?
Its important to keep in mind those feeling the consequences are not those making the decisions, no matter which country is discussed.
Just throw them a corpse and the rest will be history.
Just to add/clarify : No Health Administration in the world had/has to BUY the PCR Test recommended by WHO.
Background : The very first PCR Test on SARS - CoV -2 worldwide was developed by the Team of Prof. Christian Drosten on Berlin's Charite Hospital . Iirc, they were done with their work on Jan. 14th - 3 days after the Genome had been shared by China (!) . This Test has been confidence tested against literally any common human influenza as well as other Coronovirsusses - the "common" human Coronavirusses, as well as CoV -1 and MERS . It picks up CoV -1 and CoV -2 . Since CoV -1 is nonexistant in human population, confidence is perfect ( my words ) . That confidence was the reason WHO adopted this Test as global recommendation .
The Test protocol was given to WHO for free by the Charite ( btw., it was also immediately shared to the numerous Labs - private as well as universities - in Germany, for free ofc as well, so that there was not dependence on centralized distribution ; one of the reasons testing took off so well in Germany . Another reason ofc was/is that PCR testing is not being commercially exploited in Germany at all ) .
ANY HealthAdministration in the entire world can use the PCR Test devloped at Charite - for free . They had to pay for shipping cost (!) of essential material only . Idk what exactly that means .
What I do NOT know is whether the WHO took it upon themsleves to actually have TestKits manufactured, and provide those to countries ( I suggest they have, seeing how they ship millions of PCR kits around the world ) . I also do not know whether WHO charges for the tests they are shipping .
The shipping payment mentioned above for "essential material" did/does NOT go to Charite - it goes to an EU Institute . Charite did not, and does not make any money with the test . They never charged anyone for the development . They also do and did not sell testkits . They did give away all the information needed - the results of their research and testing - for free . Btw. others - commercial manufacturers - do make money with testkits based on that work .
The money Prof. Drosten's Team is funded with comes from EU, Bill Gates Foundation, probably others, idk . These are research grants .
Talk about stupid...
The only complete Source I have so far of most of the above Information is a radiopodcast with Prof . Drosten . He is doing these pretty frequently since very early on in the Pandemic on a german station called NDR . It is in german ofc, so probably not of much use to most of you . I link it anyways . Talking about the PCR Test starts ca. 9:30 :
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Pretty good Interview with Germany's Secretary of Health, Mr. Jens Spahn, by CNBC, broadcast on Monday I think . His english could use some work, but I am generally pleased with his representation of my home country . Good Information .
p.s.: This guy was deputy Secretary of Finances prior to his current job . Lucky us .
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=229Fi8fOtho
p.s.: This guy was deputy Secretary of Finances prior to his current job . Lucky us .
Referring to the Study done by US military huh ? The one that conlcuded that about 10% of potential recruits are basically too stupid to let them do anything where they could remotely do any harm ?
On the raising of prices : the people hardest hit by the hoarding of essentials and some-not-so-essential in the early day of the Pandemic were...the poorest ofc . Not only do they never have enough money to buy a few weeks of supplies of many goods...nope, people wealthier than them hoarded like crazy and ofc bought...the cheapest stuff mostly . So, the poorest could not even get their USUAL purchase of some goods on some days/in some stores .
Yep, its one of the modern mysteries to me that - no matter what! - everyone is expected to "work" . This is not a subject of ideology, but practicality .
His English is perfectly intelligible.
It's becoming more and more clear that the point about testing is something that cannot be overstated. I don't think there will be any other way to return to a semblance of normalcy without rapid and extensive testing.
I have mixed opinions on Jordan Peterson. He'll often describe a process I find entirely rational, and then come to conclusions, ostensibly using that rational process, that I almost always find to be varying degrees of biased or absurd. Ultimately, if I follow his instructions to the letter, I rarely get his answers...which puts a pretty big dent in the arguments he has against relativism.
I'm not a physician or immunologist, and couldn't explain the mechanisms in detail. That said, I do know that immune responses are too varied and complex to really speak of in terms of absolutes. Plenty of strong trends and tendencies, but rare is the illness that presents in exactly the same way for everyone.
Such variety in immune response is one of the reasons why we're still here...if everyone reacted the same way, there would have been some silver bullet pathogen that no one would have survived a long time ago.
these days it would be politically correct to call them asymptomatically smart
Honestly, I am too old, too Sex&Drugs&Rock'N Roll up to 30, and too "are you crazy pc whatthehell ?" to can be bothered to try an mold my language to anything remotely pc . Sometimes I do make a halfassed effort for the sake of audience, but mostly...not .
“It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so ing what."
[Stephen Fry]
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The outcome of all of this is quite obvious but it is so harmful our leaders don't want to talk about it.
We don't generally have any immunity and it looks like those that have some can still carry the virus and can catch it again. It won't burn out in the summer or die of the cold in the winter. Until we come up with a vaccine we are screwed. If we played this as a numbers game we could let our old and weak people die.......... who would do accept writing off auntie health issue?
Thank you (and, as a non English native speaker, it's always nice to learn new words, especially one as savoury as droll)
You do make a strong case for slashing welfare and sadly it’s potentially going to get even worse when they have to start increasing taxes of those still in a job to cover everyone who has lost theirs, as well as also trying and pay off the mountain of debt that is accruing.
Perhaps we should all quit work and be better off
A core component of traditional work ethic is that labor, in of itself, is possessed of some sort of virtue, distinct from the product of that labor. This line of thinking tends to be perpetuated by whoever happens to be in power, to keep those under them busy.
My mission in life is to live as long and as comfortably as possible. I have plenty of hobbies and am rarely bored, but I don't work unless I need to, and I stop working the moment it becomes superfluous, or detrimental, to my comfort.
Problem with slashing welfare is that many people's burden on society would go up, not down. It's honestly cheaper to pay some people to do nothing than the alternatives.
I've never worked in the way most people mean, and I wouldn't have it any other way.
It will turn out the way I like, which is for people to have as much control over themselves as possible.
Aging demographics are only a transient downside on the path to more sustainable population growth curves, and hopefully, a kick in the pants toward advancing anti-senescence research rather than simply replacing old people with new ones to keep growth up.
Personally, I think monogamy is pretty silly and traditional concepts of marriage one step from slavery. I certainly don't need any formal recognition of my relationships, or any government to rubberstamp my choices.
I did, reluctantly, get legally married purely for the financial incentives.
Silly preconceptions about gender roles.
Just this sentence I want to respond to .
I guess being shown pictures of an Iron wrought gate at the entrance to a historically rather signifcant complex of buildings in Poland, with the words "Arbeit macht frei !" above it, during history lesson in 8th or 9th grade had a long lasting effect on me . Information is meaningless . Context is everything .
Then there is this saying..."Idle hands are the devils workshop..."...I rather like the Stones, and once I had made sufficient progress in decoding Religion(s), Myths, and Symbolism, developed great Sympathy for the Devil, too .
Goethe was 9th Grade, I think, too . And I found that one rather appealing, and true, too :
| I am the Spirit that denies! And rightly too; for all that doth begin Should rightly to destruction run; 'Twere better then that nothing were begun. Thus everything that you call Sin, Destruction - in a word, as Evil represent- That is my own, real element. |
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Hindsight ? The CDC not using the FREE Test recommended by the WHO, but insisting to come up with their own test, which they deploy in absolutely insignifcant numbers to THEN find out its botched...that is not hindsight . It is simply keeping track as events unfold(ed), staring when, sometime mid January ? All the time, even when they were like "Damn bro, we messed this up..." there was ZERO reason for the abyssmal testing Situation in the USA up until Cuomo started to get things going in NYS . At ANY given point, they could have gone and use....the free Test . The one, you know, the WHO recommends . Thats the same Organistaion they now defund because reasons .
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